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PAMS LITTLE ANGELS Unprofessional Breeder and Sold Puppies with Tapeworms

I bought a Schnoodle puppy from Pams Little Angels a couple months ago and I received her 7 weeks ago. In this short amount of time, there's nothing but heartbreak. When I received the puppy, she was limping due to a broken nails that the breeder told me that it happened during the transit. She also blamed it on the sweater that she put on the puppy. Anyway, the problem has been resolved but I'm beginning to doubt that she is using the sweater to masked the injury as there are a series of unfortunate events that happened to my puppy 4 weeks ago. Before all these happened, I also wrote her a nice review on her website, but now I regretted I did.

First, after 3 weeks of having the puppy, she was diagnosed with tapeworms and my vet told me the life cycle of tapeworms to show takes about 3 weeks after a dog ingested the eggs. And now, she has bloody stools. When I tried to reached out for her, she became nasty and insinuated that I should take better care of my puppy and all puppies have worms. In the email that she sent me, she says all her puppies come with 2 sets of Shots, health cert, and a vet cert. But when I get her, I only received the state health cert which the airline requires and a paper that she typed out herself stating how many shots the puppy has gotten. It ONLY INDICATES 1 SET of SHOT and no vet cert. When I confronted her because my puppy has tapeworms and eliminates bloody stool, she told me that she administers the shots herself and there's nothing wrong with it. Of course there's nothing wrong with it if only my puppy isn't that sick. So, I feel that she never took the puppy to the vet for any check up before sending them off to buyers because she could not show me a vet record.

She is very helpful and nice until I have paid and receive the puppy. She says she will work with me when there's a problem with the puppy but that never happen. She'll beat around the bush and change her words and make you feel that you don't know how to take care of a puppy and it's all your fault if/when the puppy is sick. She also told me just because the puppy stool is bloody doesn't mean that she's sick and that's normal.

So, buyers beware when you purchase a puppy and do lots of research on the breeders because I don't want anyone to be in my position.

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Jan 25, 2010 8:42 pm EST

Please read. The puppy has worms close to 3 weeks after I got her and it has to be ingested from the breeder's home. And please stop lying to everybody. I never ever get any vet report that you promised. And as for the other readers/buyers, I will scan and post a vet report to proof that I took the puppy for a checkup within 24 hours of receiving the puppy. Here again Pam makes it sounds like she's nice and all that. But that's not how she reacted when I told her the puppy has health problem.

Honestly, this won't happened if she didn't email me to request that I write and post a good review of the puppy I purchased from her. How dare she asked after selling me a sick puppy, knowingly or not, she's just not very nice and helpful when a problem occurs. Just for the record, I didn't say it's wrong that you administered the shots yourself. I just don't know if you did or not because there's no proof.

If the Schnoodle is fully vetted, please show me and everyone a vet record here and don't just say it. So, I'm going to post the proof and our emails. So readers, please stay tune.

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slander finder
new york city, US
Mar 28, 2010 3:53 pm EDT

I cannot belive you stupid puppy buyers are on here complaing about such petty ### things like worms.

You should not own the puppy or any puppy in the future if you cannot apprecite your breeder. God, no wonder puppies are so hard to find and more so why so many breeders do not even want to breed puppy's anymore, all you petty-### buyers.

Worms ? worms ? WTF...worms ?
how petty. what you think you will never have to worm your puppy ever.

when you worm your puppy every year for the reast of its life... will you post more petty commnets about the breeder. Would you like the breeder to pay for your dogs worming for the rest of its life ?

why did you buy a dog in the first place.
shame on you !

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kayto82
Beverly Hills, US
Mar 15, 2010 8:35 am EDT

I work in a veterinary clinic in Austin and must agree with the breeder. All puppies are born with worms. They need to be dewormed a few times before they're 12 weeks old. If you received the puppy before he/she was twelve weeks, it would have been at the initial vet visit that you had upon receiving the dog that this should have been discussed. It is perfectly legal for breeders to do puppy "multi" shots, i.e. DHLPP - Distemper, Hepatitis, Leptospirosis, Parainfluenza, and Parvo. They can include the Corona Virus vaccine as well. They can not, however, issue a rabies vaccine. Veterinaries understand that breeders do ship dogs - at the purchaser's risk. It is never recommended that an ANIMAL is purchased sight unseen and then shipped across country, but if this is what the individual buying the dog wants, then it is offered by most breeders. Any number of health issues can occur in shipment, which is a risk the buyer chooses to take.

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Kyle, US
Jan 24, 2010 11:26 pm EST

HI THIS IS PAM WITH PAM'S LITTLE ANGELS I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE PUG PROBLEM YES I MADE A MISTAKE I HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE IN MY 13 YEARS OF BREEDING YOU SEE ONE PUG I BREED MY SELF AND THE OTHER PUG CAME FROM ANOTHER BREEDER I FIND PUPPIES SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE WHEN I DON'T HAVE WHAT SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR. BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THE PUPPIES I HAD PLACED THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO THE SAME PLACE I WAS TOLD BOTH BABIES WERE SICK WITH COCCIDIA WHICH IS A COMMON PARASITE IN PUPPIES ALL PUPPIES HAVE IT ITS WHEN STRESS HAPPENS AND THEY BABIES IMMUNE SYSTEM DON'T FIGHT IT OFF. I HAVE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS AND I WILL LEARN FROM THIS! I DO GIVE ALBON FOR 5 DAYS AS A PREVENTIVE OR TREATMENT OF COCIDA OR GORDIA. I HAVE MAILED THE AKC PAPERS TO BARB AND I AM MAILING CARRIE'S PAPERS MON ALSO AKC PAPERS.
I'M SORRY THIS HAPPENED.

AS FAR AS THE LADY WITH THE SCHNOODLE IN NY I'M SORRY TOO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT UR BABY HAS WORMS AFTER 7 WKS YOUR HEALTH GUARANTEE STATES FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET WITHIN 48 HRS YOU NEVER ONCE TOLD ME IN THAT 48 VET CHECK YOUR BABY HAD WORMS. I WILL SAY I'M SORRY I PUT A SWEATER ON THE BABY BECAUSE ITS SO COLD IN NY I WAS AFRAID SHE WOULD GET TO COLD, IT WAS MY FIRST BABY TO BE SHIPPED DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD HURT UNTIL YOU TOLD ME HER NAIL WAS BROKEN, I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. AS FAR AS SHOT RECORDS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME DOING MY OWN SHOTS ITS CHEAPER AND SAFER FOR THE BABIES ALMOST ALL BREEDERS DO THEIR OWN SHOTS. JUST FWI I HAVE TAPE WORMED EVERY BABY AND ADULT AT MY HOME. I AM SORRY FOR THE MISTAKES I HAVE MADE AND WILL TAKE IT AND LEARN. WHEN YOU SHIP A PUPPY YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE VETS AND GET A FULL EXAM DONE TO GET A HEALTH CERT. THE BABY HAS TO PASS BEFORE A VET WILL GIVE THE CERT. THE BABY HAS TO BE FULLY HEALTHY TO PASS ! THE SCHNOODLE PUPPY WAS FULLY VETTED BEFORE SHIPPING! THANKS PAM

I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE ONLY MADE A FEW MISTAKES IN MY 13 YRS OF BREEDING I'M NOT PERFECT I'M HUMAN AND TO ALL I LOVE MY BABIES I WOULD NEVER EVER HURT ANYONE ON PURPOSE!
MY WEBSITE PAMSLITTLEANGELS.COM THANKS TO ALL READERS...

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PAMS LITTLE ANGELS UNPROFESSIONAL AND SOLD VERY SICK PUPPIES

PAMS LITTLE ANGELS (PAM),

SEEMS VERY NICE UNTIL YOU PAY AND RECEIVE DOG. MY FRIEND AND I PURCHASED 2 PUGS FROM PAMS LITTLE ANGELS AND BOTH WERE VERY SICK. PAM STATES HEALTH GUARANTEE BUT WHEN YOU RECEIVE THIS "GUARANTEE" YOU SOON REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE COVERED THEMSELVES WITH ALL THE S/S OF ANY ILLNESS. BOTH DOGS HAD COCCIDA AND TAPE WORMS. 500 DOLLORS LATER OF VET BILLS AND WAS TOLD PAPERS WERE ON THERE WAY AND STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED PAPERS ( 1 MONTH LATER). WHEN I CONTACTED PAM ABOUT THIS INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN A RUN AROUND ABOUT PAPERS AND WAS YELLED AT. THIS VERY NICE WOMEN HAS NOT BEEN VERY NICE CONCERNING THE SICK ANIMALS AND NEEDING THE PAPERS. OUR DOGS ARE FINALLY HEALTHY AND NOW PAID TOP DOLLOR FOR VERY SICK DOG WITH NO PAPERS. DONT BUY FROM "PAMS LITTLE ANGELS". LEARN FROM ME AND GO TO AKC WEBSITE AND SEARCH FOR HEALTHY, PAPERED DOG".

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cupcake1982
Charleston, US
Jun 02, 2010 1:39 pm EDT

I want to share some very important info concerning breeders and puppy buyers. When selecting a breed or dog you must also be very paticular about the breeder. If a breeder has more then one breed of dog they are selling you need to stay away.These are puppy mills breeding soley for the purpose of financial gain.Also anyone who buys puppies and resale them are brokers which they buy for less and sell for more.Why do people purchase puppies from a newspaper ad or online classified ad.If the breeder does not have a very informative website then stay away. If they do not have at least 15yrs of experience with (1) breed then stay away.If they do not have a health guarantee then stay away.
Also another point is Cocci is not something that you can blame on the breeder.All puppies are born with this and it becomes active under stress .Which is most cases when a puppy leaves its home and goes into a new home.I stress to my new pug owners the importance of not taking their new puppy home to a house full of people and children stressing them out in the first couple of weeks.These 2 wks are time the puppy needs to adjust to his new home.Cocci in my opinion is the new owners fault for these reasons.Tapeworms, yes can be blamed on the breeder .But this is also something the new owners need to take repsonsibility for in preventitive care.Puppies are born with worms and should be wormed every couple weeks beginning at 3-4 wks of age.

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slander finder
new york city, US
Mar 28, 2010 3:56 pm EDT

worms and cocci ?
petty petty petty !
cooci comes form stress...like hello you just moved the puppy from one home to another !

Coccisidious... ? completely common, when changing households. Your puppy probbaly died from lack of care. Coccisidious is completely treatable. Most likely when the puppy stopped eating and drinking you did nothing about it and left the puppy die from starvation rather than coccisidious.

You should not own the puppy or any puppy in the future if you cannot apprecite your breeder. God, no wonder puppies are so hard to find and more so why so many breeders do not even want to breed puppy's anymore, all you petty-### buyers.

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CKSK
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Jan 25, 2010 8:50 pm EST

Please read. The puppy has worms close to 3 weeks after I got her and it has to be ingested from the breeder's home. And please stop lying to everybody. I never ever get any vet report that you promised. And as for the other readers/buyers, I will scan and post a vet report to proof that I took the puppy for a checkup within 24 hours of receiving the puppy. Here again Pam makes it sounds like she's nice and all that. But that's not how she reacted when I told her the puppy has health problem.

Honestly, this won't happened if she didn't email me to request that I write and post a good review of the puppy I purchased from her. How dare she asked after selling me a sick puppy, knowingly or not, she's just not very nice and helpful when a problem occurs. Just for the record, I didn't say it's wrong that you administered the shots yourself. I just don't know if you did or not because there's no proof.

If the Schnoodle is fully vetted, please show me and everyone a vet record here and don't just say it. So, I'm going to post the proof and our emails. So readers, please stay tune.

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pams little angels
US
Jan 24, 2010 11:40 pm EST

HI THIS IS PAM WITH PAM'S LITTLE ANGELS I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE PUG PROBLEM YES I MADE A MISTAKE I HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE IN MY 13 YEARS OF BREEDING YOU SEE ONE PUG I BREED MY SELF AND THE OTHER PUG CAME FROM ANOTHER BREEDER I FIND PUPPIES SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE WHEN I DON'T HAVE WHAT SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR. BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THE PUPPIES I HAD PLACED THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO THE SAME PLACE I WAS TOLD BOTH BABIES WERE SICK WITH COCCIDIA WHICH IS A COMMON PARASITE IN PUPPIES ALL PUPPIES HAVE IT ITS WHEN STRESS HAPPENS AND THEY BABIES IMMUNE SYSTEM DON'T FIGHT IT OFF. I HAVE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS AND I WILL LEARN FROM THIS! I DO GIVE ALBON FOR 5 DAYS AS A PREVENTIVE OR TREATMENT OF COCIDA OR GORDIA. I HAVE MAILED THE AKC PAPERS TO BARB AND I AM MAILING CARRIE'S PAPERS MON ALSO AKC PAPERS.
I'M SORRY THIS HAPPENED.

AS FAR AS THE LADY WITH THE SCHNOODLE IN NY I'M SORRY TOO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT UR BABY HAS WORMS AFTER 7 WKS YOUR HEALTH GUARANTEE STATES FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE VET WITHIN 48 HRS YOU NEVER ONCE TOLD ME IN THAT 48 VET CHECK YOUR BABY HAD WORMS. I WILL SAY I'M SORRY I PUT A SWEATER ON THE BABY BECAUSE ITS SO COLD IN NY I WAS AFRAID SHE WOULD GET TO COLD, IT WAS MY FIRST BABY TO BE SHIPPED DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD HURT UNTIL YOU TOLD ME HER NAIL WAS BROKEN, I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. AS FAR AS SHOT RECORDS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME DOING MY OWN SHOTS ITS CHEAPER AND SAFER FOR THE BABIES ALMOST ALL BREEDERS DO THEIR OWN SHOTS. JUST FWI I HAVE TAPE WORMED EVERY BABY AND ADULT AT MY HOME. I AM SORRY FOR THE MISTAKES I HAVE MADE AND WILL TAKE IT AND LEARN. WHEN YOU SHIP A PUPPY YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE VETS AND GET A FULL EXAM DONE TO GET A HEALTH CERT. THE BABY HAS TO PASS BEFORE A VET WILL GIVE THE CERT. THE BABY HAS TO BE FULLY HEALTHY TO PASS ! THE SCHNOODLE PUPPY WAS FULLY VETTED BEFORE SHIPPING! THANKS PAM

I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE ONLY MADE A FEW MISTAKES IN MY 13 YRS OF BREEDING I'M NOT PERFECT I'M HUMAN AND TO ALL I LOVE MY BABIES I WOULD NEVER EVER HURT ANYONE ON PURPOSE!
MY WEBSITE PAMSLITTLEANGELS.COM THANKS TO ALL READERS

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CKSK
US
Jan 23, 2010 10:20 am EST

I totally agree with you. She seems very nice, helpful, and caring. But as soon as you paid her and receive the puppy, she totally ignore you. I purchased a Schnoodle puupy from her and she has tapeworms and eliminates bloody stools. She said that the puppy will come with 2 sets of shots and vet certificate. It DID NOT! It came with 1 set of shot and when asked where is the vet cert, she said she gave the shots to the puppy herself. I have all in writing.

I tried to reached out from her but she like to beat around the bush and she yelled at me for not taking good care of my puppy. I've only had the puppy for 7 weeks and I've already spent tons of money on vet bills because she sent me a sick puppy with tapeworms!

So, buyers please beware of this breeder.

Chrissie K

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