Bethea Jenner / MyHealthWealthAndHappiness.com / MyHWH.com review: astrology and psychic rip off! 149

Bethea Jenner is well known for these scams. She lives in London so you could write to her there. Her address is on the website ripoffrevenge.com or badbusinessbureau. There are a variety of addresses listed there, some of them in the US but she is based in North London and works from there. If you look at all the complaints listed (there are quite a few) I noticed one of the did have her correct address but I dont remember it right now.

Keep away from these 2 vampires! At least you got something, Sheila. After being told the amulet was on the way, I am still waiting for it after 4 weeks. They had the cheek to charge me for the first installment. They ignored my email when I told them I have not received the goods. This has happened to someone else who has also taken the trouble to report it on the Web.
I have immediately rung my bank to cancel my credit card to avoid further ripoffs from them. I think that is all you can do apart from reporting them on this site.
I shall be contacting their payment agent and notify them of the scam.
Lesson1: google name/company before dealing. Buy only from e-Bay or proven sources.
Lesson2: be afraid, very afraid,when strangers address you like you are their long-time best friend.

I just wanted to say thanks to the others who have given warning about Bethea and Rochelle. It prevented me from spending any more $ on something. Like another person suggests, rely on God, or use your own personal subconscious power... I think the two are inter-linked, and you don't have to pay anyone any money to use them.

I am also in the same gullible boat. I ordered a couple of things from them, 2 books, which i did not get ripped off for, and the a necklace. The first time i ordered the necklace, I did not receive it. i let her know. I then received it a month later being charged in full. Then, about a few weeks later, i get charged again, then again, then again. I let her know the what was going on, trying to compromise with her...that didn't work. She kept avoiding my complaints and suggestions all together, and then the last thing that she wrote to me was, "Oh, i'm glad that your enjoying your jade dragon pendant, you will be billed a second time. " AHH THIS FRAUD CHARLATAN IS SO FRUSTRATING! Is there anyway that I can change my information around with my credit card without canceling it out completely?

I feel like a total fool. I just got a necklace from her recently and it is just a plain old necklace..there is no power in it at all..Now I here that if I try to send it back I still would not get my money back..She prys on the week and heavy hearted..most of us are going through some hard times and she knows that. Bethea Jenner is a fake and a phony and the world should know that ..please pass the word on to others so she can stop conning innoccent trouble hearted victims from having their money ripped away from them..But I know a man who can solve all money problems, take away heavy ladens, and burdens..He can be your doctor while you are sick, your lawyer in the courtroom...His name is Jesus..Just call him and trust him with all your heart and soul..he just want you to humble yourself and pray until something happen..Don't believe me? Try him.

I do believe that this a ugly joke and we have been ripped off. I was fooled in to this game and feel a total jerk. I have not sent the money yet but now i know this is a scam i have change my mind. I am glad that i know the truth about this. I was glad i know all of this.

Hi, I have been ripped off too. I have bought many items from them, hoping that my life would turn better, but of course not. I started to suspect that they may be fraud when every month regualy they were withdrawing money from my bank account, despite me ordering most stuff full price. I thought I had done my four instalments on an item I had purchased, but they still kept charging my card. I have now demanded that I will return everything to them and they pay me back. They still tried to make up my mind by saying: " sorry things didn't go too well for you as instructed, but you have to be patient and good things will come" I am the last person that deserves to pay for false promises. If they continue to charge my card, I will commence a fraud investigation with my bank. I heard from the comments above that they are already under investigation from the UK Police. It will be very easy for me to apporoach my bank regarding this, as they already are "known" for fraud. Please you all don't pay for things you are not sure of. I know that you all are desperate for miracles to happen in your lives, like me but this is not the way to wish for miracles. Pray to God and your guardian Angel. You will get your miracles from GOD. God bless you all.

Hello all I am so glad I google them before I decide to make my purchase and now I am about to delete them from my e-mail Thanks Alot what a shame.

A few months ago, I paid a private investigator to look into Bethea Jenner and Rochelle Gordon. The address for Bethea Jenner is 122 Lyndhurst Road London N22 5AT. Her mobile phone number is [protected]. He is still tracing Rochelle Gordon but she is believed to live in the New York area of the US. Watch this space for more information. If people want to take this information to the police in the UK they should do so as I am not living in Britain at the moment so cannot get on the case for a while. Good luck and let us all know how you get on. There is so much evidence of fraud that there should be no problem getting it resolved.

So how come Bethea hasn't got a nice car? Surely she would have used the information to get the goodies for herself if she had 'special powers'. Please post the exact details of your winning ticket and the competition you claim to have won as evidence of your claims. Otherwise we might think it is Bethea and her chums posting here.

Rochelle and Bethea, I really had to write to you today. At the beginning I didn't have too much confidence, but after I bought the 1st gift something happened. At the beginning I didn't think of you, but after I did. I went to a hcokey game and bought a few tickets at the entrance. During the third period the drawing of the tickets was made and I had the winning number. I won a $1000.00. A little bit later I thought about you and said to myself, of God that's Betha who is watching over me tonight.

Cynical fake testimonials from Bethea Jenner commending herself to others, posted from her internet site. A new law in the UK is being invoked to prevent this kind of scam. These people now have to advertise themselves as entertainers and admit that they don't have any special powers or insight.

I received a spam email from Bethea Jenner recently which was odd as our paths crossed years ago. I looked her up on google and found this site. I particularly laughed at one of the so-called 'testimonials declaring that 'Bethea is watching over me'. These people definitely haven't met her! You wouldn't want her watching over you guys. She was horrible to me a few years ago when I had dealings with her before she got into this so-called psychic scam, when she worked as a PA at a clinic in London. She wasn't mean to me in a 'psychic' way, just in a nasty, intolerant way. She made me cry with her behaviour. She wasn't a very nice person. Anyone can set themselves up as a psychic, write some phoney testimonials and send spam mails to the whole planet. I might try it myself as it seems to be a money spinner.

Since ordering a bracelet from bethea jenner she has fraudulantly billed my credit card for bogus purchases that have added up to almost 400 dollars and it just keeps going. I am having to cancel my card to make it stop.

I placed an order back in Jan./'08 for a jade pendant and a wellness kit. THE PENDANT COST $66.80 and the KIT cost$19.95. Both cheques were cashed Feb.4/'08 and I have the records but Bethea claims the orders haven't been placed. How long has she been doing this and why is she still in operation ?

Thanks a lot for all these warnings. I'm about to get into the trouble myself. I would think it's a scam too since there is no return address, no clear instruction, their website looks very suspicious.

I was skeptical too, but I really love some of the products I've bought from Bethea. Admittedly I don't believe in the promises, but a lot of other people seem to believe in them. They work for those people, I guess. I was worried when I read about bank accounts being charged, but I've read her letters and they do state that for certain products you get one a month for x amount of months. That's why there are multiple charges. I always make sure I read her letters carefully. I really like my Archangel Michael medallion.

I receive on a daily basis at least 2 letters from Maria Duvall, and now every other super natural worker plus now drs and numerology center, robert green, suzi yao, von trapp and so many more that I cannot even name them, all professing to be the real thing. Also the Rochelle and Bethea Jenner scam. even using the lord jesus and archangels to get to your inner emotions.

This is not only scam .this is more to ripoff cause both of the items ived never received, plus she was charging me for after my bank report me that this is a scam organization and they still have the guts to mail me and sign it as my friend while they ripping me off. so please people avoid any order from this web and do not i repeat do not give any credit card number.

Phoney tributes posted on the net by Bethea Jenner about her own qualities do not fool the public.

Bethea Jenner sends junk email to thousands of innocent people with identical 'predictions' for their future, claiming to be their friend but secretly ripping them off and trying to get them to buy bits of trash from her. The so-called predictions are computer generated. The mails also tell people should buy Jenner's produce (which is cheap tat but she charges lot of money for). I sent off for a medallion when I was a bit vulnerable and not thinking straight. It never arrived and I have contacted the address and phone number but not heard back. I have checked her out online since and it turns out this often happens and the so-called personal astrological readings are exactly the same for every single one of the thousands of people she contacts every week worldwide. I wish I had checked out this site and others before I responded to her mail. I looked at the posts she has put on the internet herself, talking about her 'special powers' and all that silly garbage and I can't believe I fell for such an obvious scam. It's like those TV evangelists who cajole and threaten us to send out money. What a sap I was to fall for it.

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Here here Scott! it is interesting how many more replies in her name are appearing everywhere, promising refunds, trying to clear her name etc; why is she so worried all of a sudden? perhaps the British or American authorities are onto her? I know someone who is going to report her to Watchdog.

Writing to Watchdog and asking them to make a programme on Bethea Jenner is an excellent idea. If she is used as an example, named and shamed, these kinds of 'psychic' internet scams may be at least curtailed. They have got away with it for too long. I might write to Watchdog myself just to back up any complaints already made. There is masses of evidence on the internet so even if people are scared of giving their real names, it wouldn't be difficult to highlight the problem and make a whole programme about it. In the age of 'Fair Trade' this and that, it's crazy that a great many people in the developing world (and in the US and Europe) are being bamboozled into buying pieces of trash with 'magical powers' and then after they've handed over details of their bank accounts, having money removed illegally.

Yes, I agree about Watchdog and as someone commented on this board, there is now a new set of rules, a law of some kind by which people cannot claim they are who they are not, or to have powers they do not really have, let alone sell trinkets which they claim have magic powers when that is not true. Fraudulent mediums is what they call them and Watchdog would certainly be keen to make a program about this topic because it is very much of the moment. I think that is the right way to go about it. Notice how Bethea Jenner is trying to justify herself now in all the complaint boards? all of a sudden she seems to be worried, despite hundreds of complaints about her in the past, which she ignored. Also, notice how Rochelle Gordon is not defending herself, only her partner Bethea is. I think this is because as Bethea Jenner lives in the UK, despite giving an address in the US, she would be covered by this new law while Rochelle Gordon is not, being an American, but still, Watchdog would investigate the whole thing and find out how the whole thing is organised, who they really work for, if they really are partners, etc. and even stop them both from tricking people in Europe as the law, I think, covers the EU.

I wonder why Jenner can't see that the people who complain are fed up because they have been ripped off or at least duped by her and her associates. Rather, she prefers to believe, or pretend to believe, that the problem is that some people are just plain nasty. Not so. It isn't us, the public, who are ripping people off. I suppose this is more evidence of her self-justifying. I received emails from her which were clearly mass produced but I resent the fact that I was targeted in this way by someone pretending to be my friend, offering me all sorts of things that she couldn't deliver. The fact that these characters also trick people out of money for silly bits of junk with Bethea's powers might also be a reason for so much resentment. Don't try to bat the ball of blame back to the consumer. Telling people to get in touch with your 'assistants' is all very well but those people who've done that (100s of them all over the internet) and not heard back or received a refund, may well say what's the point? She hasn't 'helped' anyone because --HELLO-- she doesn't have any special powers at all and to pretend she does is just proof of hubris or egomania.

I received an email from this Bethea Jenner through spam. To target people through spam is very lowly anyway. I was curious so I opened it and where it said get your free forecast, as soon as you clicked, you were directed to an advertisement askingyou to buy a medallion or talisman she recommended for good luck. I thought it was all pretty obvious and silly, so I googled her and could not believe how many complaints there are about her. Then it did not seem to be so silly anymore; plain dangerous, it seemed! What is really sad, is that there are so many people out there with real problems, vulnerable and sometimes desperate, who would hang onto anything to just keep on going. How disgusting that people like Jenner pray on them. How can she sleep at night? doesn't she worry about her own karma because of what she does to people?

I agree with Daryl. A very good point.

From Bethea Jenner's latest self-publicity: “What can you do about falling stock prices, the collapse of the housing market, or the fact that the dreaded word recession is on everyone’s lips? The answer is protect yourself with a 24K Gold vermeil Amulet of Ultimate Protection, ” read the offer. All of this for the bargain price of $24.99.
Surely this is fraud? An Amulet, gold or otherwise, will not protect anyone from anything. Either she is stupid and really believes this or it's a con. It could be argued that people worried about recession shouldn't be wasting money on trash.

I must have a major case stupidity because I fell for her promises hook, liner and sinker. Right now I am trying to block a purchase that I made on her online network with my debit card . I probably have to open a new bank account because of this mess.

For those who were asking, this is the website with the information on the mass emails sent by Jenner and co:
DR. JOE'S SNAKE OIL EMPORIUM: Promises, Promises27 Jun 2005 ... 4 Apr 2005 @ 23:24 by Ingrid Jahra @200.108.26.136 : Promises Promises ... This one calls herself Bethea Jenner. Thanks for this site, ...
www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v241/__show_article/_a000241-000140.htm - 360k -

This might be of interest too:
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4249602.ece

I got one i think is interesting too about people writing their own testimonials. LOL.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/technology/04republic.html?ex=1315022400&en=cc629c6ec5d5805d&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Myhealthwealthandhappiness charged my bank account 6/16/08 for $36.90, and again on 7/17/08 for $36.90, these were unauthorized charges. I emailed both myhealthwealthandhappiness.com, and betheajenner.com, in June demanding a credit be given to my bank account for $36.90. Of course, I did NOT receive a response nor a credit.

I again emailed both again today, 7/17/08, and requested, again, they stop these charges, and credit my bank account. These unauthorized charges are considered FRAUD, and I doubt very seriously that I will receive a response, nor a credit to my bank account. They owe me $73.80, I know it's not much, but it is to my family. I have never received anything from these people, nor did I order anything. I did go to their website, but did cancel an order that I was going to place. I cancel due to me doing a little research. However, they held onto my bank account information, and charged me. I have read others complaining about them as well as myself. They apparently have done this same thing to other people.

Something needs to be done. Now, since they have taken money from my account, we won't be able to get as much food for the week, and there are 3 people in this household.

Denise
Overland Park, Kansas
U.S.A.

Her address is in North London and is on this website somewhere. It is outrageous what is going on with these people.