Bionic Band review: Bionic bullcrap 266

to all the people who dont believe the bionic band really works. you can suck it! i have seen it with my own eyes. ive seen it help adults, kids and even seen a dog climb stairs that he couldnt climb before. these tests where done by people who dont sell the bands. they where just opened minded enough to at least try something out before protesting it. there is a way you do the tests properly. it takes a little training and listening on how to do them. i recommend them. i have owned my bands for a year. they have really helped me and my family. if you are on the fence about this try it for your self. most of all! be open minded. it works!

s. reynolds

So how come they don't put it up for testing then? Seriously, it is illegalt o sell it for health benefits as it woudl then be a emdical device and need an FDA license in the US or an EU license for Europe. The sciecne they sight is simply not relevant, eg Einsteins theory only worked on liquid water in direct conatact with metal, not human skin.

With that in mind the mechanism they say it uses is untrue, so they must have got incredibly lucky and accidentally made it so it works in sme way that even the manufacturers don't know about.

The tests they offer are subjective, and measure what happens when you wear the band NOT whether the band itself has any effect, there are very important differences in those two positions, and if they could prove that the band actually had an efect they coudl legally sell it for health problems and tap into the massive health market. I can only assume tha they are not into that market because actually they have absolutely no evidence that the protons are aligned, no evidence that changing the frequency of the body woudl bring positive effects and no evidencethat anything other than placebo is at work.

But hey, since you tell me it works and I should try it for myself that must mean you have tested it for placebo in controlled double blind experiments with a large enough sample group to disregard placebo, or that you have managed to check the proton alignemtn or the benefits of "changing your frequency".

The science is BS, the marketing method is word of mouth (rather than any form of scientific evidence) and they have many distributors breakign the law sellign it for helath benefits that they simply will not get their product tested for. Looks like a scam quacks like a scam, it's a scam. I am glad the placebo effect is makign you feel better, this product certainly is having no effect on you.

I was was sure this wouldnt work. I bought one, it worked almost instantly . I have had back pain for years. no pain for 36 hrs. and counting. To compare this with Madoff is pure insanity. You aint getting nothing back from him, 50 billion, come on,

2 canoe

You bought it for bakc pain? It is not licensed for back pain, because ther is no eivdence that it actually does anythign at all, over and above placebo. If you were sold it by someone who told you it works for back pain they were breaking the law. If the manufacturers want to sell it for back paint hen they should do ssomehting they seem reallly keen to avoid, and get it tested by the proper authorities, however since there is no evidence that it does anythign at all over and above placebo they won't be doing that in a hurry. Don't you wonder why they sell it using network marketing techiniques? The opportunity to use word of mouth rather than have to actually prove that it does anything more than placebo, and the opportunity to have loads of distributors makign claims of health benefitst hey never have to prove, so they can deny having sold it for that purpose, it's obviously a con, but people keep buying into placebo and thinking the band is actually doing something.

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I have had incredible success with the Bionic Band, I have dozens of customers that are amazed that the pain they have been experiencing for years has disappeared almost immediately. Many of these people have even been prescribed medication from the doctor which they have stopped taking and continue to feel no pain. To make things even better the side effects from the drugs has also subsibed and produced many positive things.

So even if you do not want to believe... that is ok, there are many who do and are experiencing a joyous pain free life. If you choose to be ignorant of the facts and want to live in pain, that is your choice. But atleast have the decency to let others enjoy their new found pain free lives.

www.NoMorePainDrugs.com

Ignorant of the facts?

Ok, show me a fact tht shows that htis is anyhting other than placebo.

Not anecdotal accounts, not the BS they pretend is the sciecne behidn it, FACTS.

You don't seem to understnad the word.

As for a definite FACT it is a FACT that it is illegal to sell this product for pain relief as it has no FDA or EU license as a medical device, as it has not been submitted for testing.

I do not see what is nto decent about pointing out that the science put forward is BS, and that it is illegal to sell as a pain releif device, or what is not decent about pointing out that it is sold via pyramid marketing, uses tests as evidence that do not require a band to get the results that they claim shows it works, that they will nto submit for double blind testing that woudl rule out placebo, or that the mass of similar products on the market, when tested in double blind tests (despite being equally successful in the same tests that supposedly show that they work too) all turn out to be bull.

I do see what is not decent about selling a product for pain relief that has absolutely no evidecne what so ever that it has any effect on the body, has no science behind it that woudl bring relief from pain, has not ebeen tested by the proper authorities and is essentially a cheap silicone band. If this band brings pain free lives from anythign othr than the placebo effect it is a miracle (and i mean that in the sense of it is doing something that is not possible), as the makers have not made it for pain relief, their product is meant to align protons, which would have no effect on pain, it only (if you believe their psuedoscience wihc is completely flawed and untrue anyway) emits a frequency which would have no effect on pain, and is not advertised by the manufacturers as being for pain relief. Great you have no pain because of the placebo effect, doesn't give you a llicense to make money selling placebo's to people which is specficially against the law in the US and EU.

It's not me behaving indecently. This product is a scam, if you get pain releif then it is from the placebo effect. so come on cite some facts that show that the badn actually relieves pain (not the palcebo effect).

I believe our human bodies are a well disigned and made to fuction perfectly. There are many truths yet to be discovered concerning the human body. I personally dont think its the fequency thing but I could be wrong. I do know it worked for me and am sold on it because it works. I do believe that you need to buy one and try it. If you get no benifet from it return it. I cant see how you can lose. I paid retail up front and anyone that is serious should do the same if they truely want to examine the results from the same point as I did. I wear mine night and day now. I am 60 plus I play my hockey now without back pain. I got 3 goals a few nights ago I am having a blast.

2 Canoe

There are many truths still to be discovered, which si why we have consumer laws, to stop charlatans selling placebos at amssive marks ups becuase people, despite there being no evidence of any action by products, think it is the product workign nto the body itself. One thing that is known is the placebo effect, but you cannot sell placebo's legally.

If I buy a placebo and it works on me by the placebo effect then the manufacturer is ripping me off even if the placebo effect works. The return it line is a red herring, they just rely opn makign money from people for whom the placebo has wokred. You have bought the emperor's new clothes and excusing frausters like these because you got a placebo for your money is only going to make peopel think that cons like these are ethical. They are not.

Why does this bother you so much Fangio. Placebo effect explains nothing. You have not tried it yet you are sure it doesn't work. There is nothing illegal money back if not satisfied. You are promoting the product with your remarks. I think more are apt to try it after reading your "expert opinion". I will sign up and you can sign up on my down line. Last offer Eienstien

Hey Fangio,

Here is a risk free offer to you... go to my website and you will see my telephone number and e-mail address.

Contact me either way and I will send you one original Bionic Band for FREE!

If it doesn't work, keep it! If it does work... come back here and tell the world you were wrong. DEAL?

www.BionicMan.ca

p.s. 2 Canoe is right... my sales are skyrocketing thanks to people like Fangio. lol Keep up the good work.

Ok

Canoe, sellign a product for pain relief without FDA approval is illegal. If you are ignorant of the legislation on medical devices it's not my fault.

If you honestly think the placebo effect explains ntohgin you are also ignoratn of the very basic principles of placebo and expectation. If these are not dicsounted from the "effects" band wearers "experience" then there is absolutely not evidence of the band doing a damn thing.

It's a con. The sciecne is BS. I have siad this so many times nad not one of you has come back with a single point that says the science is not BS, not once. It's laughable all that you come back with is anecdotal evidence that could be placebo based.

You claim facts back you up, when you ave not provided a single fac tthat shows the band has any effect of itself. Not one.

SD

There is a risk, as there is always in givign people you don't klnow yor personal contact details, as i have outlined above. So no I will nto be contacting you to get a band that will nto on it's own enable me or anyone elese to conduct double blind tests (without an identical but uncharged band you can't d the tests and you are not offering that are you?) and these are the only tests which will discount the placebo.

If I got a band and just tested it withtout the control fo an identical uncharged band it woudl not show in any way that the badn worked. You don't appear to understand that very basic principle. I can't think why not, except of course that the entire evidence provided by Bionic Band is shown to be useless when compared to that standard.

I doubt your sales rocket due to peopel piointing out that the band is a scam. it is a scam and that you are promoting it based on tests and so on that demonstrate aboslutely no effect from the band is a disgrace. I hope that someone reports you to the FDA and that Bionic Band are either forced to submit for testing or closed down.

2 Canoe

Why doe it bother me, because peopel are being sold a placebo at a premium cost, the manufacturers know this and are raking in cash from the gullibel and desperate, most poeple saying ti works are distributors and financially gainging form this scam in teh pyramid scheme that they are using. It's a disgrace.

Fangio

You need to get a band, you are way too up tight. I am sure that If someone relieved you of $65 and you wore the band it would help

FDA has had many test failures. They are as unreliable as any. Placebos work as good as the drug and in a lot of the cases better. The band is harmless at worst. Good luck on having the FDA do anything they have too many law suites against them at present to deal with.

So now the band (by not doing anything at all) relieves stress too. It's a miracle.

It is not legal to sell placebo's, it certainly isn't ethical, and still another post with absolutely no facts whatsoever to show tha the band works. Why are all the supporters avoiding the facts?

Fangio
I said at worst meaning from a legal point of view it would be a frivolous to use courts to prove anything. Now you flip from calling it illegal to not ethical. I am sure you believe it is a scam but I think you are being "not ethical" by not trying the product and flaming anyone that does. The moral police should come and get you and tie you up with a bionic band hand cuff until you become a believer.

And here is another thing that ticks me of about you. no one has brought the word "miracle" into this. You obviously are trying to bring a another subject into this. So this gives me the opportunity to share my favorite "miracle"
Winter of 1976 just before Christmas' To make a true story real short. I was in a detox center in Saskatoon Sask. I had not had any drugs or alcohol for 6 weeks. I was going to check out of the clinic and get drunk when this guy asked me if I had tried prayer. Very unscientific I thought but I though I would try it then go get smashed. I privately Said the "Our Father" That was over 33years ago. Still sober and drug free.
You must be very young or very bitter to react the way you do. I think you need to be set free. If you dont understand something let it go. Even if you try it whether it is prayer or bionic braclet. Whether it works or not for you be happy knowing it works for someone. I think your mind is stopping you from the real joy of living.

2 canoe

I do nto need to try the product to know that sellign it for medical reasons such as pain relief is illegal. It is also unethical, I have nto flipped it is both. As to frivilously using court time, no the sellign of placebo's is illegal, as such you seem to be suggesting that any prosecution of that law is frivilous.

I am not fla, ming, I have put up the reasons why it is a scam and you guys come back with nothing to contradict it but just tell everyone it works. You are the onesx flaming, there is nothign you are offering.

With Bionic Band, there is nothign to understand, I have looked at their science and it's bull. This is why I brought in the word miracle. if a product that method for helping balance etc is compeltely flawed, as it is with bionic band, then for it to actually do anything other than promote the placebo effect woudl be truly miraculous. I have a joy of living, and since you bring religion inot it, i also have strong moral values. Thou shalt not steal is one phrase I am sure you will recognise, sellign somethign that does nto do what it says (and this is not sold as a placebo) is stealing, it is dishonest, and it is illegal.

My joy of life does not extend to letting people rip people off selling snake oil, that you think that I shoudl pass by on the other side when I see wrongdoing shows that your prayer was perhaps not sincere at all. Christ threw the money lenderes out fo the temple, he did not say, they are lending people money when they want it so I'll leave them to it.

I was not trying to bring another subject in (althoug I note that you jumped at the opportunity to divert yet again away from providing a single fact that shows the band as doing anything other than placebo) I was pointing out that there is no way using the sciecne offered that this works.

PS since this a complaints board, peopel posting up how wonderful the product they are distributors for are flaming, not people posting up complaints.

Fangio,

Does the placebo effect work on animals? I need some scientific information on that! Several animals are experiencing positive effects from the Bionic Band. Can you explain that to the canine world?

www.BionicMan.ca

I am saying that in my opinion this is a a good product. It is proven good by the testimonies. the same way my doctor tested me with the last medicine he gave me. He said it worked for others and may work for me. He then asked me if I noticed any benefits. The truth is the medicine is approved by the FDA. for what ever thats worth.
Your take on Jesus and the money changers show me you were ether assuming i dont know the story or you thought you could pull one over on me thinking I dont know. Never the less the reason Jesus threw out the money changers was that it was supposed to be a house of prayer. money changing may or may not have been sin but it was done in the wrong place. And now you can judge me about the sincerity of my prayer. It was very humbling for me at that time to pray. Yes I got down on my knees at that time. A part of me was sure this wouldnt work. But wouldnt you agree it wasnt just a scam. 33 years of drug and alcohol free is as scientific as it gets.
based on testimonies the Bionic band works It worked for me, Someday true science will confirm
you are very sure it is a scam that only your opinion, you wont even try it
Funny thing your remark notices strangely started showing up in my junk mail filter. I am going to take that as a sign.

Funny you mention true science will confirm things later. Absolutely, however, Bionic Band have certainly got nothing to do with true science.

I do believe in the pwer of prayer, thing is no one takes money off me to pray, there is no scam invovled. No one tells me lies about it doing one thing or the other offering no evidecne then takes my cash.

Try it, it wokrs, as I have said before but neither of you seem capable of reading, is a useful scam for people selling placebo's. How about test it with an identical uncharged version in double blind repeatable mrasurable tests, it works? No you won't go for that will you. Come on offer me an identical uncharged band and a charged band for testing, see if you can get the company to send you one, with a signed affidavit that both have been thoroughly tested to ensure that they are genuinely charged and uncharged. Are you going to say try it it works, or are you goign to insist that trying it under these test conditions is not necessary, you can just put one on and that's all you need?

Hmmmmm? i am in the process of researching on these little bands! opening a wellness center and thinking of selling it?
i was at a shop-spree event and the lady there didn't tell me what to expect.. she simply told me to hold my arms out and stand on one foot, she pushed on one of my arms and i lost my balance. she then put a band on my wrist and told me to hold my arms out and stand on one foot again- i still didn't know what she was doing. then she, again, pushed down on my arm harder and harder and i didn't loose my balance... now, you say "mind over matter" hmmmm. how could that be when i didn't even know what to expect. i'm a very skeptical person when it comes to sales and bribes and have been in marketing and sales for the past 10 years. Ha! I still want another demo before I think of putting the “BIO Band” on my list of things to sell. but, $50. Is it worth it? thats what i was thinking when she told me the price?

Are yo saying that you expected the result to be owrse using her product, on the subconcious level? If a sales person is selling you something it must be to improve things. As such your subconcious will know that things are expected to improve. Add to that that the other reason this can work is pushing in slightly different directions gives very different results.

The test has, as has been mentioned many many times, been used with "succesful" results for over 100 years prior to the invention of the bionic band, both with placebo's and without any placebo at all. As such the test demonstrates absolutley nothing about the effectiveness of the band or any other product or method that uses it as proof.

Fangio,

Guess what? I did a double blind test on 5 subjects in the last two days and the results are conclusive, the real band worked every time and the one without the metal piece did not work. 5 out of 5, not bad hey, I'm going to keep doing the double blind tests and documenting the names and contact info of all participants until I hit 100 test subjects. To be honest with you, all of your negativity is motivating the hell out me to do all of the SCIENTIFIC TESTS you and other EXPERTS think you require.

Thanks for the motivation. Anybody wanting access to my info go to www.BionicMan.ca my contact info is there including e-mail and telephone number.

I have another observation from the nay sayers on a couple of these types of forum websites. None of them have ever bought a Bionic Band and actually tried it, it is always their OPINION that it doesn't or can't work. I have yet to find a dissatisfied customer of Perfect World's Bionic Band. How is that possible, with tens of thousands of bands sold and it is only non-buyers doing the complaining. AMAZING.

SDAnderson

You can't do double blind testing with nonidentical products if either the tester or test subject know what the difference is. Given that the metal must be in contact with the skin (according to Bionic Bands) it must be uncovered. As such there is a visible difference between the one with teh metal and without it. So you have not done double blind testing and I doubt you have any real clue what you are doing when doing any tests.

As for your assertion that it is only my opinion that it does not work. It is a fact hat the sciecne quoted does nto work. It is my opinion that it would be a miracle if it worked despit the method it si supposed to be using not working.

It is only your opinion that the band works. You certianly have absolutley no science to back it up.

PS I have checked witht eh FDA and have received confirmation that he Bionic Band is a "Medical Device" and therefore does need an FDA license to be sold for any form of medical benefit. You are breaking Federal Law sellign it for pain relief. why not submit it for testing, that way we both will know that the tests were done by someone who actually understadns how to conduct doubel blind testing and is independent. Alternaticvely you coudl just continue to break the law and pretend that you have done tests which have any meaning to them.

Just because rational peopel can see that it is a con and not buy it int he first place does nto mean we shoudl leave deciding whether it works to the irrational peopel who bought it. Are the only people fit to judge whether cyanide is deadly those who have been killed by it? Or can peopel set up test which are scientifically valid to measure this?

Fangio,
Do you think you are the only one that knows how to conduct a double blind test? Of course neither one of us knew which one was which. Why are you so arrogant? You are sounding dumber after every comment. Do you work for a drug company? I question your motives.
And for the record, it is not me making the claims that it has taken away pain. It is the people that you call irrational that bought a product that worked for them. You are turning into such an idiot. It is people like you that still think the world is flat.

I am not an idiot, I know that if there is a visible difference between the two bands which woudl allow the tester to identify the band as being the "real" one and teh "placebo" one (which tere is if the metal peice which is visible is missing) then the test is clearly not doubel blind. That you try to pretend that it doesn't matter if merely by looking at the place where the metal should be visible you can tell the difference, then you celarly are not being honest about doubel blind testing.

You say of course you couldn't tell which one was which, you are lying. Clearly you can if the metal is missing. What is it you don't understand about that. I could tell the difference so why woudln't you be able to?

No the pain relief claims are on your website.

I do not think the world is falt, I also don't think it is round, it is approximately spherical. It is people like you who believe tha the world is flat, because peopel tell you it is. Instead, I look at the evidence, and facts, no facts support the claims made for how the band "works" no evidecne suggests it is anything other than placebo.

So go on, show me the evidence that the science is valid.

Or show me the tests which show, double blind and using repeatable measurable tests, that the band works.

There is nothing, except people telling you it works, that is the realm of the flat earth beleivers, not an evidence based position that you pretend you are taking.

I'm done with you, you have proven your ignorance by your comments!

You say, "which tere is if the metal peice which is visible is missing"
"That you try to pretend that it doesn't matter if merely by looking at the place where the metal should be visible you can tell the difference"

Do you know where the metal piece is? You can't see it or feel it when it is being put on! not hard to do double blind.

You say, "There is nothing, except people telling you it works, that is the realm of the flat earth beleivers, not an evidence based position that you pretend you are taking"

Isn't it the people here that matter, not me saying it works, it is the people. That is all I needed to hear. You just verified my results. Thank-you

Bionic Band works, the people have spoken. www.BionicMan.ca

Garbage again.

I am not ignorant, the metal has to be uncovered to work. itis therefore visible. Both you and the test subject can tell teh difference before doing the tests. You claiming that you and the subject did not see it does not make your tests double blind. It is your ignoracne of proper testing procedures that is on display here (did you even have a third person involved who noted whether you were using the placebo or the genuine band and only revealed the results after you had submitted your results? Don't bother to answer that, as I don't trust your answers given your complete disregard for the whole process of double blinding). Where there is a identifiable physical difference which the tester woudl recognise the tests cannot be double blind. You are not serious about testing this product and never will be.

With regard to the people saying it works, no that is not all you need idiot. That could be (and is in this case) the placebo effect working not the band working. You are selling them the emperors new clothes and they are thanking you for them, it has absolutely no bearing on whether the band does a damn thing.

If it's placebo you are breaking the law, and ripping people off.

If you really are finished pedalling your scam on here great, glad to see the back of you, will be even more glad if the FDA get any complaints and force you and your kind to stop ripping people off by selling placebo's and pretending that they actually cause any sort of physical change.

I bought one and it works for me. I have Spastic Diplegia, a form of Cerebral Palsy. I have a moderate gait disturbance along with weak legs and severe back pain. I have had surgeries, cortisone injections..you name it. none of it worked. I can't hardly walk without holding on to a wall, or rail...etc. I bought a band after the demo. Now I can walk backwards, turn circles, ride an escalator or an elevator without hanging on. I still have the gait problem cosmetically, and always will but now I can move around better and my back has stopped hurting almost completely in a matter of days! I am a skeptic by nature, but this thing actually improved my balance and strength tremendously, and I don't care whether it's mind over matter or not! I bought one of the hundred dollar metal ones, and it sure beats the 300 I spend quarterly on cortisone! The lady I bought mine from gave me copies of published medical research, and on top of that, my wife is a Doctor herself, and she is even amazed at the improvements in ambulatory function and balance that I am experiencing! knowing what I know now, and experiencing the effects firsthand, I would have paid any price for it. there are always skeptics when any miracle comes along, and believe me, I've been on the other side! This thing is a blessing to all of us that have searched high and low for answers and remedies, and spent thousands along the way! So in closing, I say Thank God for the Bionic Band! It helped me, and if you don't have one, get one! it's worth every penny! Spring for the expensive one if you can so you get the lifetime warranty and a longer lasting bracelet! I am in no way affiliated with, nor do I sell these things. I'm just a lucky guy that stumbled(literally!)across the one thing that changed my life forever! Good luck to all of you who are in the same boat I was! I hope you find comfort in some fashion, be it a Bionic Band or not!

It is a total scam. I have a distributor friend and he sells these things, when he does all those tests on his clients he pushes the arms downward when they are wearing the band and then pushes them at an angle when they are not wearing the band causing the imbalance. Also, i embarrassed the distributor at the mall as i wore a band on one of the arms with a full sleeve shirt and pretended like i was a gullible idiot and asked him to do his magical tests on me, he did all those balance/imbalance tests and at the end i rolled up my other sleeve and showed him that i was wearing a band already at all times, please explain the imbalance situations, he was quiet and everybody who was watching left after laughing at him. These people defending the band are all distributors trying to rip off people, you should rather spend that money on a good meal than this worthless piece of crap.

Think what you want the Bionic Band works!

www.BionicMan.ca

I lent my band to a freinds wife. She had it for about 2 weeks, my back pain came back after a couple days. my friends wife want the band because it gave positive results I got a new one. Back pain gone after about 1 day. I wont let it go again. Her mother bought one from me. Great product. thanks Bionic Band

Product which teh manufacturers have not submited for FDA testing and which therefore they are not able to say does naythign for apin relief, and for which their method has nothign whatsoever to do with relieving pain, and it wokrs for apin relief. I am prepared to bet you are a distributor. It isn't even menat to work for pain relief.

It'a a placebo they are scam artisits, and you are buying hope and ntohgin mroe. To sell it for pain relief is a federal crime.

Fangio
I am a distributor now why not spread the love and make a little cash. I never found anything that as good as this. making a little cash is a unintended benefit, Hope this doesn't bug you to badly but if it does that's another unintended benefit.

2 Canoe

Why not? Well if youa re sellign it for pain relief, becuaise it''s illegal to do so without FDA approval. What is ti you don't understnad about that?

Why is that? Well the FDA will make sure that things are safe, manufactured to an acceptable standard, and actually do what they say they will.

So the only reason to avoid FDA approval would be that you are in some way scamming people, offering an unsafe product, a poorly made product or a product that does nto do what it says.

You have no evidecne tha teh band itself does naything, so it is idiotic to say that you have never found anythign as good as this. sure the sales patter may be better, the advertsigin may be better, the link of the product to expectationand thereby it's abiltiy to act as a placebo ay be better, but there is no evidence it actually does anything.

Fangio
I wonder if the boinicBand could help your typing. It looks like something is breaking up in your life. Why dont you report me to the FDA I am sure they have the time to deal with this, along with other mistakes they have made though out the years, approving drugs that latter on have had disastrous results.