Christ's Church of the Valley / CCVOnline.com review: Church leadership continues to allow felon member to ripoff members 33

Felon lawyer and CCV member Maldonado's "honesty" ad soliciting new business is STILL RUNNING as of right now on CCVonline.com.!

Wrong Brenda. STop tweeting and try reading or knowing your Bible before you open your mouth. Or read a law book. In both places it is NOT just between the perp and victim. The crime is called "AiDING AND ABETTING" AND IT IS ALSO A FELONY. IT OCCURS WHEN SOMEONE KNOWINGLY ASSISTS SOMEONE ELSE IN THEIR CRIMINALITY. CCV AND PASTOR WILSON KNEW ABOUT THIS FRAUD CRIME OVER A YEAR AGO AND THEY DID NOTHING TO STOP IT, BUT EVEN WORSE THEY CONTINUED TO OFFER THEIR VALUABLE WEBSITE RESOURCE AS THE KEY AND ONLY RESOURCE TO ALLOW MALDONADO TO COMMIT THE FIST CRIME AND GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW MANY MORE. You are both quick to judge (not a Chrstian trait) and ignorant (sadly a Christian trait among CCV Chrstians)

Actually the fraud IS between CCV-Maldonado and the victim. Even if CCV posts a disclaimer on its website that it is not responsible for fraud that might occur with its advertisers it is not shielded from legal liability. Just imagine if you robbed a bank and placed a little sign on the end of your gun as you pointed it at the teller and it read that you (the robber) are not liable for loss of property or life while in the bank - LOL. That little sign means nothing. Further, once CCV AND ITS LEADERS WERE NOTIFIED THAT ITS WEBSITE WAS BEING USED AS A PLATFORM, TOOL OR VEHICLE FOR A FELONY CRIME ON A MEMBER, IT/THEY HAD A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO IMMEDIATELY ELIMINATE THAT SITUATION AND RELATIONSHIP. IT APPEARS THAT THEY DID NOT DO ANY SUCH THING EVEN AFTER NUMEROUS CONTACTS AND PRODDINGS - SO THEY ARE LEGALLY LIABLE, BUT WORSE, BECAUSE THEY ANSWER TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY THAT JUST JUST THE LOCAL CRIMINAL OR CIVIL STATUTES, THEY HAVE FAILED FAR, FAR WORSE.

great or even good leadership by definition is proactive not reactive and especially not inactive as this case proves. good leadership at ccv would have succesfully resolved this fraud in a fair and decisive manner, erring on the side of the victim not the victimizer, if anything was uncertain, the moment it was brought to their attention. because this did not happen good leadership does not exist inside ccv church. end of story.

Brenda, youre showing your ignorance again. The bad check statute does NOT require a court judgement to be proven or valid. A check not paid when FIRST presented as indicated or stamped by the issuing bank with NSF on it that has not been repaid by cashiers check or cash ONLY with fees by the maker within 15 days is a crime automatically, either a misdemeanor or a felony crime - depending on the amount of the fraud and intent of the maker in making it good. (I'll let you in on a little secret here: Not making a bad check good or offering to make payents after 1.5 years looks REAL, REAL bad for the check issuer - you know, like the issuer had bad intentions all along, like a felony). But you seemed to have missed your own point that you apparently went to the Bible or Google to lookup after your first critical post. Yes, both parties are/were CCV member and the relationship was started based on an ad posted on CCVonline.com. So YES, this is a church problem that should be resolved in the church first, with the courts used only as a last resort. It appears that is exactly what this person has done and is trying to do (after waiting like a saint for over 1.5 years to be paid and waiting for Pastor Wilson to step up). Sounds like you need to email you Biblical revelations to Pastor Wilson ASAP so he and his staffers can start practising Pauls hidden in plain sight teachings before this matter moves to court.

"Brenda" is Edward Maldonado's online alias.

Bernie Madoff was screwing over his clients and stealing from them for over a defcade before he was finally charged and arrested. Yes he was stolling about Manhattan, going to Temple, dining at the finest restautrants pretending as if he was doing nothing evil. But in fact there were several key journalists who knew what was really going on and they rang the bells as loud as their singular voices would allow on Bernie's frauds and neither Temple nor regulator listened to them for YEARS! Till it was way too late for nearly everyone. So "Brenda" AKA Edward Madoff Maldonado, you day will come. Justice, especially in the Christian context, will always win out in the end. Secrets, like slime and sludge, can only be contained for just so long before it eventually seeps out of its containment. The Maldonado fraud bucket is leaking heavily now and just about to burst open.

HUmmm, check out this link: http://156.42.40.50/UnOfficialDocs/pdf/20100544897.pdf. This is a legally recorded Maricopa County Recorder's office document from Maldonado's home lender who he and his wife also screwed over. They have already pulled his previously recorded home default and auction documents off the website but I have them stored elsewhere for the newsmedia or church officials to review. Read the date for yourself. Yes, the Maldonado's failed to pay what they had agreed to pay IN WRITING re their home loan FOR MANY Many months before they stiffed their lender, (that is US by the way, taxpayers, as we've guaranteed most of these loans), defaulted, and signed over their house to their lender who then scheduled the house for auction weeks later. They were not making any payments and were in default and forclosure in early 2009, perhaps even 2008. Fake "Christian" Maldonado coincidently started running his "honest representation" CCVonline.com lawyer solicitiation ads AFTER he realized he had mismanaged his finances and was in a financial meltdown and was in default on his written mortgage loan agreement. Said another way, Maldonado was falsely representing himself in his ads as an "honest" and trustworthy person on CCV's website AFTER he had already broke his promise and stopped making payemts on his house and was smack in the middle of a financial crisis - AFTER - HE WAS NO LONGER, 'HONEST". Just a little ironic. He took cash from his victim days later in April 2009 WHEN HE WAS STILL BROKE AND IN DEFAULT, and wrote his bad-NSF check to that same client in early May 2009 and this is proven by sworn, witnesssed, notarized affidavit from his bank, Bank of America. Maldonado and his wife signed over title to their defaulted house to their lender on 7/2009 as the linked document PROVES BEYOND ALL DOUBT. Apparently Edward Maldonado couldnt quite steal enough money from unsuspecting clients to make up his monthly shortfall and they threw in the towel in July 2009. Many people are broke and in serious default on their houses for OVER A YEAR BEFORE THEY FINALLY SIGN THEM OVER TO THEIR LENDER OR BEFORE THE ACTUAL AUCTION TAKES PLACE. SO CLEARLY MALDONADO WAS IN DEEP FINANCIAL TROUBLE EVEN BEFORE HE STARTED ADVERTISING ON CCV (HIS CCV AD STATES IT WAS FIRST POSTED 2/04/2009, link to his ad: http://www.ccvonline.com/Arena/default.aspx?Page=12340&categoryID=717). SO AS A BROKE, DEFAULTED BORROWER IN FEB 2009, MALDONADO SAID TO HIMSELF, IM IN DEEP [censored] HERE, i dont have anything to lose, I will call myself "honest" when I'm anything but, I will inform the AZ legal regulator, the AZBar.org, that I have liability insurance in order to get new clients, when I really have no insurance, (AGAIN PROVEN), they will put that lie on their website, and hopefully I wil get enough clients and cash to fix my financial mismanagement and then once the dust clears, maybe I will go back to telling the truth and TRULY being honest. I WILL USE MY CLIENTS AS A CASH MACHINE OR A PAYDAY LOAN STORE, taking their money, cashing all their checks, and then telling them "oh, I made a mistake, I have a conflict, I cant take your case after all, but I hope everything works out for you without you fee refunded and deadlines now missed, god bless you". Maldonado stole directly from his clients because his credit was so shredded he couldnt even borrow money from a payday lender! Any poster here who defends or soft peddles the truly predatory behavior of this monster is truly one themselves.

What an idiot "immodest". Certainly not a Christian. And hasnt read any of the posts at all or all the way through. Another dum[censored] non-reader, non-thinker. I applaud Maldonados victim for holding back and not punching out this [censored]bag lawyer Maldonado or confronting him at his workplace or in front of his kids, which he could have easily done. Instead, if you had read the post, he tried in vain by email and process server and church complaint, everything legal, for over a year and a half. Thats saintly. I would never had waited that long for the light to come on in this idiots head (whcich it still hasnt apparently) Only crazy sociopaths who must have thier own violent rap sheets think its bad to remain civil and use the internet which happens to be the #1 way to share information about people now. Duh! Dum[censored]

Yet another comment lacking insight or wisdom from "Brenda": Sorry again "Brenda" but dont know what rock you've been hiding under for the last several years, BUT, the internet is the new public square and courtroom all rolled into one, the peoples courtroom. So be afraid, be very afraid of this new accountablility and transparency. Now bad people and lawyers can't screw others over as easily as in the past and then hide behind the statement "so sue me" or "its not proven till its litigated in court". So very wrong. Anyone who hires Maldonado or goes to CCV after passing over all these warnings online now, is really a self hater and self-destructive and deserves Maldonado and CCV.

You have a conversation with someone long enough and eventually the dam will break and their real and true self, heart and character will eventually emerge. With ignorant, uneducated, sociopathic types, this usually only takes a few words or minutes to happen, as it has in the last posts right here with the bigoted and homophobic bombshells just delivered by "freekin homos" Brenda" and "disgruntled ###" immodest. Remember kids, when you lose an argument based on your opponent presenting silly junk like "facts", truth, and sworn notarized NSF bank affidavits and actual emails and you can't refute it, well there will come a point when you just have to toss all that civil debate junk youve been taught aside and reach deep into your big bag of bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism and racism and play one of those cards to show your opponent a thing or two about who you really are - LOL. You've shown everyone - yet again, Mr Maldonado.

Mr Maldonado misrepresented my sons case also. He did a real bad job. Go onto www.lawwerratingz.com and see other compaints about Maldonado. He should not be practising law.

AZ lawyer Edward Maldonado is clearly a felon bad-check writer but hes also a convicted felon murderer for a 1991 drive-by gang shooting he particiapted in with several other gangster friends in La Habra, CA when he was a minor. Co-defendants Emilia Ceniceros, 36, Edward Jose Maldonado, 37, and Gabriella Maldonado, 36, all of La Habra, were convicted Oct. 8, 1991, of MURDER, assault with a firearm, shooting at an inhabited dwelling, first-degree robbery and shooting at an unoccupied vehicle. An article about it just ran days ago in the Whitier Daily News because one of the perps finally was convicted after many years of mistrials, check out the story link here:
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_16236317?source=rss_viewed. Or google yourself, there are more articles. Maldonado was in youth prison for many years and that may be one reason why he's now representing indigent criminal youth for Maricopa County in AZ away from anyone who knew him in CA. And why he NEVER uses his middle initial or middle name even on his home deed and home forclosure documents and even with the lawyer licensing body the State Bar of Arizona, azbar.org, do a lawyer check in him there for yourself. Once a criminal - always a criminal.

Read more: La Habra gang member receives 16 years to life in 1991 fatal shooting - Whittier Daily News http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_16236317?source=rss_viewed#ixzz16c5rzViD
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Mayvbe you want to call me names like a "###" too, Yes Mr Maldonado? AKA "immodest" AKA "Brenda"

Just joined in here and after reading the original post and several of the same authors original posts elsewhere about Maldonado I noticed that Maldonad and all of his online personas/family members never once denied any of the core accusations: 1) that he wrote a NSF check to the individual, 2) that he failed to ever make-good cash or cashiers check payment for his bad check to this person after 1.5 years as required by CA bad check statute CC 1719 or even AZ law, 3) that he was investigated by the AZ Bar, 4) that he did not in fact have the liability insurance in May 2009 when he claimed on website www.azbar.org that he did, and 5) that he is a convicted felon for murder among other crimes for a gangbanging event as a youth in La Habra, CA in which he was sentenced for nine years +_ in youth prison as a result. Instead he has called this person vile names, made inappropriate personal attacks about irrevelent personal traits, and made crude bigoted remarks not at all in line with his professed CCV Christianity or as a lawyer aka, an officer of the court.

Wow, it amazing to me how all you neo nazi, homophobic, free thinker haters keep going back to the ' He hasn't been charged so he cant have done anything wrong' excuse...Do you forget, christ lovers, that for the last 2000 years or so the church has been covering up that thier staff are child molesters (dont even think about excusing this one, the lord and master of the Church ' the pope' has recently admitted the churches failings in dealing with these kiddie fiddlers ). You seem very quick to forget that the church, in which ever guise, has spent nearly 2 millenia covering up and hiding the wrong doings of thier own members.
Brenda - Bilndness of your own sins does not mean you are without sin.

@Brenda - PS - Your arguement that without charge there can be no crime is ridiculous. If you don't catch, charge and convict a murderer then has there been no murder? If you dont catch, charge and convict a rapist, has there been no rape.
Your blind faith in Mr M is overwealming, you are a follower, I am a questioner. When the church says jump, you say how high, I say 'Why'?
Lets hope you never have to deal with the murder or a close friend or relative, because it may be hard to understand when the police stop looking for a killer when they advise that becuase no one has been caught or charged there can be no murder.

This so-called "pastor" is no leader and DEF NOT A mature, wise, follower of Christ and must be removed by his board or other Christian pastors/leaders or public pressure, which would be quite sad if this guy is that EGO-CENTRIC AND DENSE to let this cancer grow to the point that the local news media get involved to expose this fraud enabler. BY JUST IGNORING THIS SERIOUS FRAUD which used CCV CHURCH ASSESTS AND WEB COMMUNICATION TOOLS TO ALLOW A FELON CRIMINAL GANGBANGER MEMBER TO STEAL FROM OTHER UNSUSPECTING CCV CHRISTIANS, IS BEYOND BELIEF REALLY. THIS SO CALLED "PASTOR"" HAS FAILED BASIC CHURCH LEADERSHIP 101.

Well people, time for an update to the above tragedy: its now 2/13/2011, nearly three months after I was forced to post the story of my victimization by gangbanger murderer felon and financial bad-check fraudster Maldonado AND CCV, above, and EVEN AFTER MY POST WENT VIRAL, I still have not received a single letter, email, contact, apology, offer of Christian mediation, offer of prayer, or offer of return of my stolen money, expenses and loss, now over $100K, from ANYONE at CCV even after multiple emails to numerous CCV pastors including Dr Wilson, after nearly two years. So if you're still on your DELUSIONAL Christian-CCV high-horse, STILL blindly defending CCV, still eagerly and ignorantly cheering on CCV even after their absolutely horriffic, unloving and un-CHRISTIAN FAILURE to do anything here, perhaps thinking it was an oversight or a mistake or something else to tell yourself so you wouldnt have to think or believe or face the sad truth about CCV's failed leadership, your bubble has now been popped, forever. YES, CCV's non-response was intentional, willful and malicious. VERY INTENTIONAL and very malicious. Yes, after TWO YEARS AND now damaging FIRST PAGE GOOGLE POST RESULTS PROVE IT. So for all you till deeply in denial, KOOLADE DRINKING CCV-robot nutjobs, YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS FALLEN. CRASHED. The curtain has been pulled away and THEIR LACK OF LOVE, PASTORAL CARE, CONTRITION, GRACE, AND CONCERN HERE FOR THE VICTIM, PROVES THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF PREDATORY "non-CHRISTIAN" FRAUDSTERS AND CRIMINALS just likE FELON mALDONADO WHO THEY COVERED UP AND DEFENDED TO THE BITTER END. After this horrible experience with CCV, I came to a profound realization: GOD (who I still trust and believe in) must truly be weeping 24/7 at the sheer tsunami of "Christian leaders" who claim to represent and speak for him and and collect money in his name and then actively abandon if not destroy the lives and faith of the flock, in his name.

Well said brother

Take your brain off autopilot.

This Dr Don Wilson-CCV hypocracy and leadership failure smells real similar to the NewLife Church, Colorado Springs, nightmare, where golden-boy, high profile pastor and leader of the NEA, Ted Haggard, who excluded, criticized, berated, bashed and hated-on "homosexual" American citizens for years, even Christian American homosexuals, then, SURPRISE! - (NOT), was CAUGHT willingly particiapting in a three year long illegal-drug and sex based adulterous HOMOSEXUAL relationship with a male-ecort/prostitute in Denver, miles away from THE EYES OF HIS WIFE, FAMILY and the huge flock GOD had entrusted to him to PROTECT and lead in the suburbs. U-N-B-E-L-E-I-V-A-B-L-E. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY NEWLIFE INSIDERS THAT JUST LIKE CCV'S AND WILSON'S SAD, UNCHRISTIAN AND UNLOVING SILENCE AND FAILURE WITH MALDONADO'S VICTIM HERE, NEITHER HAGGARD NOR HIS OFFICE RETURNED EMAILS FROM MEMBERS OR OTHER CHRISTIANS WITH WARNINGS BEFORE HIS SMELLY, LYING, HYPOCRITICAL, DISGRACED, FAILED LEADERSHIP MESS overflowed and SURGED down the isles of NEW LIFE, nearly destroying NewLife forever. But more important - this "Christian" ledership failure permanently diminished and devalued the collective, general reputation of Christianity in America, especially by non-Christians, MANY OF WHOM NOW REGARD EVANGELICAS AS IGNORANT, HYPOCRITICAL EXTREMIST CLOWNS. Shame on CCV and Wilson for learning nothing from the NewLIfe mess and perpetuating this image of Christians. Rather than CREATE AND BUILD AND DEMAND, AS AN EXAMPLE TO ALL THE MEN CCV WORKS SO HARD TO ATTRACT, open and transparent church and member communication about sexual desire, personal conflict, stealing and cheating, and all other points of conflict between members and the broader community: Rather than hire, train and install ethical leadership that acts proactively and repsonds quickly and lovingly to emails, complaints, issues, perpetrators, and victims before they feel forced to post critical warnings on websites, THE ONLY REAL LESSON TO BE LEARNED FROM THE NEWLIFE MELTDOWN, CCV leadership instead decided that the real lesson was merely to flood the CCV campus with scores of off-duty police officers with weapons visible, I guess to scare people into becoming a "Christian". What a sad missed opportunity CCV and Dr Wilson.

wow, that last comment was right on target - thanks for that insight!

What a ridiculous and defamatory rant.
First of all, CCV has never offered paid advertising anywhere on any of its websites. They used to have a FREE community section where anyone could buy, sell, or offer services. They made it very clear they did not endorse any company or guarantee anything in this section. I have sold products and hired numerous individuals over the years from the CCV online community section and was never under any kind of delusion that these people were guaranteed saints just because of where I found them.

For over 30 years Don Wilson and the elders and leadership he's surrounded himself with has proven to be above reproach. Your attempt to defame the righteous and Godly leadership of this church because of your personal bad experience with someone offering services on the church's free community section is sickening and deplorable. The fact this great community resource has now been eliminated is obviously do to bitter, vengeful people like you. Good riddance.

You guys are crazy! Church is not a sheriff. Go tell them. Go to church and handle your business with your own lawyer.

God says prove me, I owe it to myself to be sure those I look to as as sanctioned by god to guide me are upright . I never take the word of a leader without investigating and ballancing that with what I believe.. CCV has been a great church for fellowship, my lack of membership, though a dedicated atendee is that I will attend any church where god is present.

Though I offer prayer that this matter may be resolved and that the grieved receive compensation in some way from the lord, I do not see the responsability to befall pastor Don or the church.. I do not see them worthy of hateful speech.

God bless and if I or anyone is in need of legal help I will hopefully find a honorable one who is not dishonest.. May take a lot of searching.

Contact the Az Bar Association and the Office of the Arizona Attorney General, Fraud Division and file your complaint against this attorney as well as the Better Business Bureau. Too bad someone didn't offer you advice despite the fact it was done through the church.

Has anyone of the victims filed a complaint against Maldonado, to the American Bar Association?