Global Ticket Market review: scam 272

In my opinion the least we can do is now try and put them out of business by making as much publicity as we can about their scam because they are still trading right now and other people will fall for it.
They may well come back under a different name but now we know if payment is only after the event forget it. I deliberatly used the pseudo Global ticket market victim just in case people do a google search on it hopefully this will come up not sure. Don't know waht else to do to be honest.

Hi David taylor86 sent you a few texts today from work regarding this.
Let me know how you get on tomorrow although deep down i know that we are chasing a lost cause. What exactly can we do about it ?
they are even not based here technically ? they Probably live here though. They capitalised on the fact that not many official sites would accept these tickets to be sold on their domain.

Hi, I think its definetly a ploy to buy time. I have asked on here several times, WE NEED THERE BANK DETALS IN THE UK! IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO STOP THEM DISAPPEARING! A FEW PPL DID BANK TRANSFERS SO PLS HELP!

The fact that they are still trying to buy time suggests they have not removed all the cash from there accounts.

I have a few suggestions on going forward but I do not want to jeopardize our cause by becoming too public on this board.

If anyone wants to pursue them and is as angry as I am pls contact me by sending me a private e-mail. Cheers

Denver79 what is your mail ?
For me it is just a matter of principle even if we do not get our money back put them out of business will do me

@ Global ticket market Victim - Just send it from you panel, click on my profile and it has the option of send e-mail. I think they are not expecting any kind of fight and taking the lot of us for a bunch of MUGs! While they are buying cocktails in Spain with our cash!

Can't be just you and me who want to do something about this? can it ?

Theres you, me and stokarfi for now. Anybody else want to share ideas?

And were all london based so we could make a complaint seperatly but at the same police station!
The more complaints the better!

Boys i reported them twice a week agao and The Met told me we had to report it to trading standards. The guy just wanted to get me off the phone.

@ Wibbly, Yeah i think he just thought it was minor...from the people i have spoken to this could be between a £500 000 - £2 000 000 swindle. I like to see the met refuse to investigate that. Trust me this is being seen as much bigger then we thought. The beijing ticket scandal has brought all these companies who try a quick swindle to the attention of authorities, maybe not the ones answering the initial calls but higher up. And if you ask me this is much worse then the beijing ticket scandal, there ppl bought tickets and did not receive them as the company insisted another company did not supply them (all lies). Here GTM has taken the property of you / me / every seller, sold them onto buyers, got paid and now are holding back on paying us!
Much worse!

Has anyone reported them to trading standards?

They sent me an email at 1837 this evening saying they needed my proof of purchase as need to check all purchasers who had bought tickets from then had gained entry. Why bother to email me after the event if it is a scam?

I have just reported them to trading standards if lots of us do it they may start taking notice. Form takes a long time to complete

I'm in this with you guys... I am based in Manchester so i could report them to the authorities in Manchester... Guys who bought tickets and did a Bank Transfer... PLZ PLZ PLZ put there details out there. The police are unable to do anything without this. If anybody needs to contact me then my number is on a previous comment or email me... I have had a number of people get in contact...

I also sold a ticket through Global Ticket Market and I am yet to recieve any money. I also sent my ticket to Taylor White in Bromley which seems to be a regular address on here. I really doubt the same person bought more than 5 tickets off GTM. I suppose im lucky as i have only lost the money i paid for my ticket but i feel sorry for you guys who bought tickets off the site and received no ticket and lost 000's of £'s. I am also based in Manchester and if i can be of any help of finding these w@nkers and blocking their money. I would also say anyone who created an account and left card details on there site including the 3 digit security code on the back cancel your card a get a new one jsut to be on the safe side ! I knew i should have realised this was a scam when i rang them up and spoke to a scouser on the phone ! :0

OK, both of the lines are down at the moment. I think they are properly on the run now and no point expecting anything more to come out from GTM...

Yeah lines are down and but they have replied to my email as I sent them proof of my tickects from uefa which they sold? Still waiting for my £4500 though c@nts!

I just phoned both numbers and the 0871 has a message saying goodbye.

The other London number has a message in Spanish.

These guys have long gone but they definitely live in the UK and can be traced.

Hi,

1. How many people have contacted there local police and filed a report?
2. How many in London want to file a report? We can do it individually but at the same station, it would make things much easier? I would say the more reports the better!

WE NEED TO ACT QUICK!

Just spoke to a guy phone back on said he was really busy and call me back in an hour what a tosser just can't work it out!

I am filling a report here: http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/report_fraud. You can also do it via the phone by calling [protected]. After i do so, calling the police.

Come on people, we need to do something about it. We have been mugged big time and they are just laughing at our incompetence to do anything. Let's all take some action right now.

Hi,
First time I write here. I sold 2 tickets and I think I´m not getting any money... I´m happy to join you and go to the same police station in London as the rest of the people.

The message in Spanish is a voicemail from a Spanish Vodafone mobile. It says that the telephone number is (+[protected]

JL

I got an email yesterday from them saying that they are processing the payment and will be in touch shortly. These things can sometimes take a bit of time... am I being Naive thinking that they will still pay me?

Feeling sick you are being naive come on now.
How long does it take to put money into a person's account when all the details were given to them weeks ago ? unless they hav mugged 1000's
even hundreds of records should not take more than a day.
I am sure we can still trace them as they have used addresses in this country someone must have lived there even if they used false ID or still living there. they must have submitted some paper work to rent the places etc

Good show Stokarfi!

1. These ppl are now taking calls but feeding us that bull that they need to validate buyers received valid tickets from sellers...heres a few hints guys - The worlds premier/biggest ticket site cant do the following:

a> You would know where the buyer got the tickets from cos whopsy daisy, you asked the seller to send to a specific address! Why wud you need the buyer to send you these details again, dont you have a database?

b> The fact that GTM used a few addresses as a hub means they have breached the T&C and we should still be paid! I would like to see the credit purchases from these address, they would have had to have bought by credit card...and GTM should easily identify which buyer, bought paid and where they live right? And from which seller?

2. Its absoulelty great that we would now have the credit card companies chasing these ppl from buyers who either could not enter the event or did not receive the tickets (I do feel sorry for these buyers, but I mean at least we have the big credit card companies picking these ppl up on there radar)..and why is there a mess up, its beacause GTM decided to use there "central hub" facility to dispatch tickets instead of what is stipulated on there website?

Also, dont be intimadated on this being called illegal. The way we sold tickets is not, i repeat not illegal. Yes, it is illegal to buy and sell tickets for this event IN THE UK, but we have seen it happen with Thomas Sport, and Keith Powrse, I dint see anyone try and stop them BUT we did not buy and sell in the UK technically. You see companies like viagogo uk & seatwave uk did not sell tickets from the uk sites, while there french, german, dutch, SPANISH sites did. GTM posed as a SPANISH company. We sold tickets for a game we could not attend to a spanish company which was being advertised to us by the british media / was on top of google / and was reciving a lot of mention. After we advertised our tickets and given our credit card details as assurance we received a sale. At that point we were asked to send the tickets to an address in the UK.. Could we pull out? NO, as we thought we were bound to the t&c of GTM. If GTM was a uk company then what we did would be considered a minor offence, for them a major one...but GTM knew if they were a UK company it would be illegal.

So who is doing something illegal here, us selling via a big internet advertised company supposedly based in Spain, or GTM who are buying our tickets in various parts of England and then re-distributing them?

The only offenders here are GTM, and should i not be paid very very soon. I will be taking every legal step, even if it costs me a few quid to make sure the police / interpol / trading standards / media spotlight this. Yes they might be in spain for now, but they all sound very brit to me. I also have a few associates who provided private security for the spanish national team in south africa last july along with there spanish high ranking counter-parts. With south africa being such a dangerous country the spanish team and officials feel a high degree of gratitude to my associates. I have made some calls, and the word is, "if these ppl are in spain, and have broken the law, we have the full backing of these officials to find them through there channels and arrest them" ha ha ha. How long do you plan on running 5 / 10 / 30 years? You want to be the next Ronnie Biggs, be my guest! :-)

I sent an email to watchdog BBC not sure if they will do anything as their program is off air i think last week was the last show for now

Thanks stokarfi - @ everyone I would urge you to fill this in http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/report_fraud

Its not difficult at all, and i think its going to be a great help in getting something from these ppl.
If anyone does have any bank details, again pls send to me privately if you wish or post here...the police need this urgently. Maybe you received tickets in the end, but you can see this is a scam...theres a good chance these ppl if not brought to task will post another website down the line and buyers may not be so lucky then...you have been warned!

Denver you hit it right on the nail basically the buyers must have got their tickets and all got in therefore no longer interested but these guys will definitely be back if we do not stop them. Probably next olympics or even wimbledon this might be why they have not taken down the website ? i am suprised that it is still live ?

Hi Everyone
I've got the Bank Details!
I believe it's a Lloyds TSB account though am not 100% sure on that.
However the account name sounded like Grant Weston, although from other postings here it could have been Grant Western or Ground Wester.
The sort code is 30-90-89 and the account number is [protected].
It may well be difficult or nigh on impossible for all of us who have been cheated to get our money back, but who knows. At least we can try!

GBLAD Good on you but if you have any more confidential like that just email to us in private because i think that these ### are monitoring out chats so please do not give them any ideas in advance.
I think that they are under pressure right now to rap it up must be just a few of them this is why sometimes the phone line is not manned possibly woman taking her kids to school big bad dad ### busy trying to get all the money out and not at home or is it big f 'iing fat Mama trying it. Anyway be careful.

I Trust Denver so if you have anything more that is confidential give it to him it is only fair as he has been the most actif

Everyone - I think our element of surprise has just gone out the window...its not gblads fault, he didnt know.

The a/c is definetly lloyds tsb, its based in blackheath, London, SE3 9LH
I am on the phone now holding for lloyds tsb fraud prevention..and will be making a complaint, i.e i suspect this company with these details are about to commit major fraud and explain our story...if we all do this the best outcome will be that the a/c will be frozen. If they are legit they can contact there bank and the bank can monitor all there payments to us...if they are scammers they will be long gone, and seeing as we had a contract with this company we would be entitled to the funds anyway..

Seeing as we have very little to believe in this company to far, i am going with the lets stop them first, and ask questions later! If not we will be asking questions when that a/c is empty and what use is that?

Understood! I posted it only because Denver79 said send privately or post here and I didn't think too much motre of it but yes, anything else confidential might be best kept as private as possible. Cheers.

Guys... Sorry been out of the picture for a while... Had to work late and been busy... Thanks for all the calls and texts, it shows great unity! I will be 1) filling out the action fraud form, 2) ringing Manchester police station, 3) ringing lloyds TSB, 4) trading standards tomorrow... If we all follow these four steps then surely we must alert somebody somewhere and stop these ### getting away with it. as people have mentioned, it sounds like they are having a right ball on occasions when you ring them... Probably having a massive house gathering with champagne at our expense!

Yes, I got the same story yesterday. We will pay you within the next 5 days etc, etc. It is not really worth speaking to the Met as this is not their bag to be honest. Once we all decide that fraud has taken place we need to ring the hotline at: www.sfo.gov.uk I definitely think they will be interested...

Ashif khan another Crook who wants a laugh at our expense . Or could be Global Ticket Market people having a laugh at our expense?! I might have been taken in once but it is not likley to happen again soon.

I will also be phoning the sfo today to report this. I am happy to join any of you in making sure these guys are caught and prosecuted

I rang Lloyds and quoted account number sort code details but due to protection act couldnt give me any information. She says we need to speak to our own banks if we have sent them money and if we are owed money she advised me to contact Citizens Advice Bureau. So all very frustrating to say the least.

Hi, Pls message me privately so we can compare advances made. Cheers

UPDATE: I have contacted Lloyds, my local police station and submitted the online application to Action Fraud (who the SFO referred me too). I have also pinged emails to the Sun / Google / BBC watchdog.

Incidentally, both GTM numbers have been down all morning, have they done a runner now?

@ Wibbly - I also had that problem initially but I called again, this time more direct and stated what was going on, i made the following points:

1. Made sure I got the persons full name
2. Told them I had already made a formal complaint and have a crime reference number
3. Said so basically all lloyds cares about is there own personal customers & as this is a current a/c nobody wants to do anything etc
4. Stated very clearly, for the record, today is the 3rd of June at 10:00, I have spoken to miss x x and stated that a potentially fraud may be taking place, giving you full details of the a/c... llyods tsb has been notified and going forward should this case go to court, i will personally see to it that lloyds needs to answer for why they did nothing after a member of the public notified them? Also that lloyds would / should be fined for neglect should they do nothing after being properly notified.
5. Stated that i would just like the a/c being monitored and should any irregular activities take place then under there banking charter the a/c should be frozen pending further investigation.
6. I also ended up saying, i may not bank with you, but lloyds tsb was bailed out from the taxpayers hard earned money, so are we all not your customers?

Let me say after that i had much more luck and more details were taken and she got more helpful...and i'm not even a lloyds customer...follow these steps!