I was co-erced out of $ 2500 of money I did not have.
I wanted to start up an online business and did not know the cost of doing so. They find out how much credit is available to you, then coincidentally, that is exactly how much the fee is. They verbally guarantee that you will make the money back within 3 months but it does not happen. They offer very little support, and I have read many complaints about this company.
They are very good at what they do which is scam people out of their hard earned money.
My brother also was scammed by IVY, as soon as he realized that they were scamming him, he called his Credit Card company and froze the purchase. Long story short after much time, he got back 15, 400 dollars out of 17K. The 1, 600 he agreed to pay since he was actually usinig IVY's services for a few weeks. So all you folks hang in there and fight, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Ivy Capital has now refunded my money in full, on the proviso that I "not provide information, make any statement orally or in writing, or take any action, directly or indirectly, that would cause Ivy Capital, Inc. embarrassment or humiliation or that could reasonably be interpreted to be disparaging of Ivy Capital, Inc.". As a consequence, (and the fact that they called me at 2am this morning to "remind" me), I have been asked to rescind all previous statements regarding the company - under threat of paying Ivy Capital liquidated damages of $1000 per breach - even though such action was prior to and necessary to instigate restitution from the company.
In light of this, I hereby retract all previous statements regarding Ivy Capital.
Eyrie88,
When did you purchase your package? How long have you been doing this?
Yup! (Raising my hand) Also, another sucker! I joined in the end of August and am still trying to keep an open mind to this, but it is REALLY HARD. I will will be honest, I have learned a few things from the Vianet Training courses...but like someone mentioned in a previous blog, I could have found it out on my own, without spending almost $7000. And it's not even the $7000 that bothers me; at least I can try tell myself that it is a tuition fee, but it's after you give them that money which is suppose to be "a small investment" and a "one time only fee" that they tell you that you should sign up for different memberships such as "Wholesalematch.com" which was an additional $300 to $600 (depending if they offered you the so-called 50% off deal) or tell you that you need to have your own LLD. and suggest that having it in the state of Nevada is the best option for only $3000. The $3000 was to have someone take care of the paperwork for you. I told them I didn't have $3000 to do that, so they took it down to $1000. I finally agreed to it, but not feeling completely secure in doing so. And on top of that, they charged me twice! I currently have managed to get my website up and running, but not where I can start making money from it. It is still a work in progress. I know this is a scam, but I am still trying to get what I can out of this, just so they can't say it didn't work for you because you 1. quit or 2. didn't do the work. All in all, as much as I am trying to keep an open mind, I am still very dissatisfied with this company like the rest of you. I would REALLY REALLY like to get my money back.
I got myself involved with Ivy Capital and Vianetwebzone. I tried canceling when they first called me, but used a lot of pressure and kept transferring me from person to the next until they finally convinced me to try the program out. I, then, sent an email to cancel. They did not reply to my email. Instead, they called me and again convinced me to try the program. I was told that I could cancel if I was unsatisfied. I attempted to cancel the other day and I was told that I could cancel but that I would not get my money back. The first time they called me, they used the tactics mentioned by others, including jotting down all my balances on my credit cards. Now, I know why they charged me so much. They charged me $20, 380.00 which was my balance on my credit card. I was stupid and fell for their promises of making lots of money on the internet. But, you really do not get much help. At least 95% of the information they give you, can be found for free on the internet if you just Google it. I reported them to the Better Business Bureau, The Federal Trade Commission, The Consumer Protection Agency and The Attorney General's Office in Utah and Nevada and California. I recommend that everyone else who thinks that they have been scammed/ripped off contact all those offices also. Contact the offices not only in Utah, Nevada, California, but also other states in which they do business, such as Wyoming and contact your local state, as well. I hope we all get our monies back. It seems that we need a class action suit against these companies.
I strongely agree about a Class Action Suit with those who have been burned by IVY Capital, which is an affiliate with the Nevada Corporation, My Business Credit, and a host of other companies. I was burned by them in June for $8990 and just like many of you've said... they do not return phone calls nor answer e-mails. These companies prey on consumers like us who have the mindset of owning a business but we realized later that the business' hidden agenda was to get the money and run. And running is just what they are doing! The manager from /link removed/ doesn't have a glue! They are just gathering words to fluff their business.
The common ground here is that we all have lost our Money and we want it back for services that weren't rendered! The common ground here is that if we need to file a Class Action Suit then I am for it. Let's do the research and stop these guys or they will continue to ripoff more innocent consumers.
Since June & July... when the Nevada Corp did not answer any of my e-mails, I got so frustrated with these den of thieves that I started a 'Reality Internet' blog at internetfraudswindlers.blogspot.com. This blog is a good outlet to VENT! I don't have much money because I have given it to the den of thieves but I can give of my time and effort to see this through. What can I do? Glo 10-22-09
I have had a similar experience. It seems that all of us have signed up with a different "original" company, but they have all led into Ivy Capital. From there, it also led straight into Nevada Corporate Division and Universal Account Servicing (doing the billing) - at least it did for me. I never knew that I only had 3 days to cancel. I also NEVER saw the contract. I originally signed up on July 20, 2009. It is almost Halloween and I'm still calling and arguing with these companies every single day. I have actually become physically ill from dealing with all of this. I had put down $915.00 to Ivy Capital (which I was told was the last of the money I would have to pay). As it turns out, the $915.00 was only a down payment to the $3, 680.00 for Ivy Capital. Then, like I said, Nevada Corporate Division became involved immediately. They scammed me into putting down $2, 000.00 with them and paying off another $2, 000.00 by making $100.00 monthly payments by my credit card. That is how it worked for the $3, 680.00 with Ivy Capital, too. Of course, Nevada Corporate Division still wanted more money, but not only was I out of money, but I was out of credit. I think my credit card companies may be winning my money back for me with Nevada Corporate Division. I know that Universal Account Servicing will be turning me over to a collection agency soon. Discover told me that if I could get something in writing from Ivy Capital stating that I was due a refund of $915.00 then they could win that money back for me. I finally got that just 2 days ago. That Dianna is a real ****** as well as the secretary. I know some of you know who I mean. Then there is Kyle Kischbaum aka Kyle Lang. Are any of you familiar with a Mr. Richard Old? He had called me up, had me open up an e-mail, told me what buttons to push and what to type where. Little did I know that I was actually filling out an application to owe them $2000.00. This application apparently doubles as a contract. All I knew at the time was that I had to do whatever Richard Old said to do in order to get my business going. I mean he was one of the head guys ( and taught the Vianet Training). I thought I could and should trust him. If anyone wants to contact me by e-mail about this, feel free. In the subject just put "Ivy Capital SCAM". My e-mail is: crainh20@yahoo.com
I would love to hear if anyone else is having any success in getting there money back.
Wow! I really can kick myself in the butt for not doing my due diligence. I am experiencing the same problem with Business Development Division "aka" The Neveda Corporation. I initially thought that I signed up with Corporate Credit Concepts to build my business credit. I found out later on that I was working through BDD/The Nevada Corp. I was told I would recieve 5 trade lines minimum in the first 45 days totlating at least 25k and at least 150k within 6 months 5 months later I only have 3 lower level trade accounts which two of them I did on my own. I call and complain, they put you on hold and don't return your calls. You literally have to become a pain in their a--! After letting the manager know that when i was done working with them that I was going to write a report on The Nevada Corp. and Corporate Credit Concepts because they are the ones who does the actual trade lines. They know exactly what they are3 doing ripping people off charging people thousands of dollars for Bull! I am staying on top of them no matter what and they will give me my 3, ooo worth. To anyone else reading this, STAY AWAY from (BDD)Business Deveopment Division "aka" The Nevada Corporation and Corporate Credit Concepts!
I got a call from IVY CAPITAL today. I did not commit to anything over the phone. Later, I did a check on the phone number (thank you caller ID). The history resulted in reported scam calls. Further investigation came up with two company names. March 1st and US WEB CKS. It turns out these companies merged and since 1995 there has been some bankruptcies. I urge you to stay away from the money pit.
AFTER READING ALL THE SCAM TRUE STORIES..I, AS A NEWBY, , (AND ONLY HAVE
$97 ON MY CREDIT CARD)..HAVE DECIDED TO 'NOT' GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS ILLEGITIMATE COMPANY. THREE SO CALLED REPS. CALLED WITHIN 1/2 HOUR..URGING ME TO HAVE MY CREDIT CARD BALANCES(TO THE PENNY) READY THE NEXT DAY AT NOON WHEN THEY WOULD CALL ME.).NO, NO.NO..I'M A SINGLE SENIOR WOMAN WITH A TIGHT BUDGET AND A LOW PAID PART TIME JOB...SO, THE WARNING IS THERE..THANK GOD..I HAVENT INVESTED ANYMORE $$$ AND I AM STARTING TOMORROW TO GET MY $97 REFUNDED...THE ORIGINAL COMPANY LISTED 'JENNIFER DAVIS' AS THE FOUNDER IN MURRY, UTAH..WELL, MY SISTER LIVES IN MURRY AND I CALLED HER TO GO TO THE ADDRESS LISTED ON THE WEB..THE 2ND FLOOR OFFICE IS EMPTY AND AFTER HER INQUIRIES..THE OFFICE WAS VACATED 2YRS AGO AND THE OWNERS WERE ARRESTED FOR FRAUD..I TOLD THIS TO THE FIRST REP. AND HE HUNG UP QUICKLY! THEN THE SECOND REP CALLED AND SMOOTH TALKED...BUT I'M NOT AS DUMB AS THEY THINK I AM..THATS WHY I'M INVESTIGATING THIS BOGUS COMPANY ...I SUGGEST A CLASS ACTION SUIT FOR THOSE WITH BIG MONEY INVESTED..GOOD LUCK...
I just had such a close call I can't believe it! I got a phone call from a Jessica this morning offering to give me free coaching to set up my internet business in return for just a testimonial. She too asked me questions I thought odd about my credit--under the guise of wanting to know how much debit I had because one of their main goals would be to get me debt free. But she didn't just want to know what I owed--she wanted to know the credit line I had for each of my cards whether I was using them or not--sounded fishy to me but she was on a roll and didn't give me much time to think. She also wanted to know how much I have in my 401K.
I had two hours in between her call and the next, which was supposed to be from her superior. However, I was so busy typing up my assignment for her--listing 1) my financial goals; 2) personal goals; 3)credit information (including how much I owe on my house) and 4) reasons why THEY should want to work with me--that I didn't have any time to check them out--plus I didn't have the name of the company.
Luckily for me, when she called back I couldn't get to the phone right away. I dialed the number I got from caller ID. It was the corporate office of ICI Success. I didn't have her extension or last name so I couldn't do much except wait for the operator. While I was doing that, Jessica called back to tell me that her supervisor was with someone else right now but would be calling me in 15 minutes.
FINALLY, since I had the name of the company (before she just told me she was affiliated with Shawn Casey, whose course I had recently purchased), I Googled and found all of your comments. I've shut off my cell phone and have no intention of answering any other calls I get from their number.
I am so appreciative that all of you took the time to write about your experiences. You have saved me so much grief and financial problems. They really would have "had" me too, since I have been trying to set up a business on the side for about 6 months, working with a very expensive coach who I can no longer afford (but who is on the up and up).
I was laid off from a corporate job 2 months ago with a severance package. (She also wanted to know what my salary had been.) I am starting to get nervous about how I'll be able to pull in money, and when she called this morning I was in "fear" mode. It sounded like they could really help me by telling me step by step exactly what to do to get the business going. Like many of you, I was also told this would not happen overnight. (I agree that they do this in order to get you to believe they are sincerely trying to help you.) When I told her I was nearing the end of some expensive coaching, she told me I wouldn't have to worry about paying anything. As you have said, then why did she tell me to be ready with exact amounts (to the penny) of what I currently owe and what all of my credit lines are.
I truly hope that the Better Business Bureau does something about this scam. I have been on Shawn Casey's mailing list for the past several months since he was affiliated with Tellman Knudson and a list building program. I had noticed that first Tellman started emailing me under his own name and then Shawn started to do the same. I have no idea if Tellman caught on to him and split or if Tellman is another rip-off artist.
I am so very sorry for all that has happened to the rest of you--but once again I am so grateful that you have opened up about this scam.
Narrowly escaped--
I would like to clarify one of the posts about Corporate Credit Concepts. Ivy Capital, Business Credit Division, Nevada Corporate Division (all the same company) out sources their fulfillment to Corporate Credit Concepts. The person that posted about sign up with corporate credit concepts and then found out they were working with "BDD/The Nevada Corp" has it totally backwards. ccc doesnt refer clients to "BDD/The Nevada Corp!" BDD/The Nevada Corp refers clients for fulfillment to ccc.
Last I heard ccc is not even working with BDD/The Nevada Corp anymore. last I heard BDD/The Nevada Corp sold so many clients on so many lies that they were tired of dealing with clients that were over promised.
I had a phone call today from Mr.John Boss who convinced me to buy the online start your own business for $4, 730.00 usfunds. I remembered hearing that on the recorded telephone conversation that I had 3 days to cancell. I must have contacted 9 people via phone and email to cancell or at least find out the steps to go about cancelling. After all that I finally got a phone call back from Mr.Boss he argued and flat out told me NO NO I WILL NOT CANCELL YOUR CONTRACT! something must have happened to change your, mind, your scared. I must have told him over 25 time no word of a lie over 25 times "I WANT TO CANCELL". He just said NO! I asked to speak to his supervisor, he said he was the supervisor and that he will call me back tomorrow to see if I am OK, and talk some more.
I was not satified with this so I called the 888# back and talked to yet another person, not expecting to get anywhere of course, but the gentlman I spoke to was very helpfull, he said that he could see that I had called and emailed a number of times and doesnt know why noone got back to me. He cancelled my contract and game me a confirmation# and said that it would take 7-10 business days for the refund to show up on my creditcard.
Questions:
Should I beleive them about the cancellation, what should I do next? If I wait the 7-10 days what then if it doesnt refund back on my card. Does anybody have any advice for me?
Any help you could provide would be appreciated.
Signed newly seperated mother of 3 young children.
Post your coments here I will look tomorrow. Thank you
STAY AWAY from IVY Capial and their "team". Here is why...
I must have lost my mind on January 10th, 2009. Both my husband and myself were convinced to give up $5, 880.00 to start working with them & they would make all my dreams come true. They promised be the world and to this date (November 27th, 2009) they have treated me like crap & not only not delivered fully on their promises & I have not made 1 penny, but have treated me with great disrespect in the process.
When I purchased this product on 01/10/09 I was promised the following:
1. 6 one on one coaching session - completed
2. Online coaching videos - completed
3. 10 mentor conference calls - not fulfilled
4. Webzone Website - this was partially completed. I was made to rebuild my site 2 times "as no one could figure out what was wrong with it". During this time I was paying 2 dropshippers fees and hosting fees on a site that was not usable. Turns out there was nothing wrong with it, but rather a compatibility issue between servermc & vista & firefox...which I figured out on my own. I have also been waiting for 3 months now to have my site converted to webzone 2.0 and I'm still without the site...but paying monthly dropshippers and hosting fees on a site I can't use. I also have been PUSHED into trying to recover money via e-bay and a wordpress site. Both of these are free products to anyone...and so on and so on...
5. Web Marketing I, II and III - I was not ever show anything about these by my coach. I was told to get in touch with Brad Graves and he gave me one e-mail...
6. 12 months advisory hot line via live chat - too bad they are not available to me when I need them. (Late at night on the east coast).
And if none of this worked they would help me get my money back. Their idea of working with me is telling me to sell on e-bay and still charging me for the web-hosting fees!
This is an example of how I was treated by one of their representatives:
"Good GOD woman! We were offering to give you about $[protected] worth of programming for a methodology that is proven to work for $395 and to make up for our slowness in migrating your site! Not empty promises from Julian – Julian delivers above and beyond and has turned our tech team around! Yea, refund on the way!"
I also didn't enjoy this one that I was sent after numerous of unanswered e-mails:
"Rebecca! Calm down! Your site is a nightmare to migrate! If I have to have these types of emails I will get your money back and you can be a quitter!
And I also had some very degrading/condescending e-mails from my one on one coach in the beginning when I couldn't get something to work. It was very sarcastic and rude, yet I kept going...not liking to admit defeat. But honestly...how much should one person take before they request a full refund to get out of a bad situation?
Their ultimate solution was to refund me $300.00 and make me sign a contract to not "bash them" or stay anything negative about them...For $300.00...I can have a lot more fun exposing them for the manipulative company that they are! Now if they refund me my $5, 880.00, a full years work the web-site hosting fees, my migration fee of $395.00 (that was promised to me over 2 months ago), then maybe I would stop my rants...until then...Keep your eyes and ears open for more!
Same exact experience as stated above. We did not quit or give up. Just could not get the support from customer care, online chat or the help line. We diligently worked on our website for hours a day, had some coaching sessions with a coach that was "okay" but certainly not concerned about us getting where we needed with the website. Called, emailed, called again and did not get any response until I said I wanted my money back - of course, they refused. Same story - it is your fault for not doing the work etc.
Even contacted Shawn Casey's organization and they just sent me back to Ivy/Vianet.
Found this company that is will help you get your money back. Had nice visit with them and they are very familiar with this company and their scam. You may want to call them.
Scam Victims Help [protected]
This is Glo.
I wrote earlier in October...
All of us who have been defrauded by The Nevada Corporate Division along with Ivy Capital would need to bombard the Attorney General's Office of Nevada with the complaints that we have entered on this blog. We have got to stop these people and demand our money back. The Nevada Corporate Division has not fulfilled any obligations but they have taken our hard earned money. We've gotten nothing from them but pure 'Hell". I have filed a complaint with BBB and the Atorney General's Office.
Yes I fell for their sales pitch too...I should have known "if it's too good to be true ~ it isn't"...their sales folks are well trained to talk so fast it's hard to understand (much less remember) what's said...
My card is maxed out because of this ~ I'm a working widow just trying to get ahead ~ if there is a law suit or class action suit against them, I want to be a part of it...I've tried repeatedly to cancel & get a refund to no avail. I was told since I didn't cancel the first 3 days, I won't get one...
The saying goes "there's no fool like an old fool" & I certainly feel like one...wish I'd passed this one up...if anybody does get a refund by any means, please let it be known so others can get some debt relief...THANKS! DP from Texas
For those of you interested I have contacted an Attorney, filed with the Nevada BBB, FTC and the Attorney Generals Office in my state as well as in Neveda. I am also writting a complaint on the RipOff website. I don't think this Company will want all the attention. For all of you out there that can't afford an attorney, try the AG office in your state and Neveda. Write your own complaint with the RipOff website and the BBB. The only reason I can get an attorney is because I have Paid Legal, which is great so far.
Good luck to all of you. I will say though, if all you're going to do is complain and say you're going to do this and that and don't then shame on you. Take your complaints to someone that can help you. Surf the web and you can find all kinds of information that can help you.
I work for Ivy Capital in giving each one of my students an opportunity to create a financial independent lifestyle. That being said, i very rarely have my students call me back asking for there money back, so maybe you guys should call the Business Consultant that actually signed you up for the coaching.
Ivy Capital has great customer service and i am always on my phone helping my students out. As long as you do the work the coaches ask you to do, than you will have an opportunity to create a large income, that is a fact. I have students that thank me everyday that i brought them aboard my team, Some students have buyers remorse and want to back out and we give them a 3 day window to do so, if they back out i refund them there money.
Maybe you guys should be more positive towards having a brand new business opportunity ahead of you instead of trying to put the blame on a company that produces excellent testimonials that are 100% legit.
Thanks.
Not True...Well I made all the money that I invested plus more...You just have to be patient..You have to invest money to make money...It's all worth it anyway since you get what you put in...All these people just need to have gave it a try.. If you would of sticked with it then maybe you would of seen the results of it...I now work from home..I don't need an outside job and can spend time with my kids.. So NO.. I do disagree with this.. Damn! Im one of the people that actually sticked with this program and actually seen money..If you would of been patient then maybe you could seen that those people are they're to help you and want you to make money..It does sound too good to be true but in the end the results come in...It took me about less than two months for me to see the actual BIG money...Before that I just seen couple hundreds here and there..But well there's my story...Hope it makes you think...
Thanks for posting your experience. Did you get your money back?
I search this company the next day after signing up and found all these complaints.
It all started when I signed up for Jeff Jacksons website akaMYPROFITSITE.COM then I started receiving calls from all the scam companies. ICI Sucess, IVY Capitol, Apply Knowledge Institute and others.
Then I called my Chase credit card they knew everything about this scam they said they are also operating in several country.
They told me to immediately cancel my credit card before the money was charged. The amount was $10, 800 he said since it was a huge amount it was still pending and it takes 3-5days to process.
To the senior consultant, you must be a rare breed there at ivy giving ur clients there money back if they not happy !, i have asked for a refund on numerous occasions just to be fobbed off, also its not the fact that i didnt put any work in the fact is when i was sold this i was told i would need a spare 5hrs per wk thats all, also the only knowledge i would need is the ability to click and point a mouse and be able to write a simple e mail not true, i am a self employed person working approx 12-14hrs a day now i can do 5hrs per wk but no more and it is impossible to do this in this time scale plus the fact you have to design and build a web site from scratch find a nice product contact suppliers and possibly lie to them that you are going to buy in bulk off them to try and get them to drop ship process all the orders manually, this is not 5 hrs per wk simple as this ive been lied too and mislead as to what was involved since im getting very little feedback ive reported you to 1 governing body but it certainly wont be the last, like the last comment from kaye i was cold called after looking at something else all these people are in each outers pockets and they need stopping ..
I've dealt with this company before! They handle numerous campaigns! A lot of money making websites use Ivy Capital for their coaching or customer service. It's easier to get in contact with their customer service then it is their coaching though! Their sales team is rude, obnoxious and only after your money. They tried to sell me on OPM, Other People's Money. Which is their way of saying if you go to a bank and take out a loan it's not YOUR money you're using. Because when you deposit money in a bank, it's not put in a box that has your name on it. They loan that money out to someone else. So when you ask for a loan, you get someone else's money. HOWEVER it's you that has to pay that loan back, duh! This company only calls you back if you're going to invest more money! Do a charge back. Explain to your bank or credit card it was fraud or unauthorized. Not only do you get your money back but the company gets charged $35 for EVERY charge back. No company likes/wants a charge back. One charge back really doesn't hurt, but enough will make it sting a little!
with me it all started with Angela Pembrook, which i found out later is really Angel Stevens, and from there was a real roller coaster ride. I started out paying $4, 680.00 to ivy capital and from their i realized i was on my own, add anorther $6000.00 for advertisement and anorther $1200.00 for LLC (TO BE CORPORATED) AND ANORTHER $1000.00 FOR HOSTING, DOMAIN NAME, DROP SHIPPING, ETC. I worked this program since march 05, 2008 to sept. 28, 2009 did not earn a dime... I would love to join in a class action suite against these crooks. I worked the program or so i thought, but obviously they worked me and my credit cards very hard. i have 95% of documented evidence, names and numbers, if only i could just get my hands on Justin Hickman, the sales consultant of ivy capital, i would choke him to his tongue hung out past his knees..., " DUTCH"
I read your comments here and I can't help thinking "Could this happen in America". With all what have been said about this particular company scamming people (and I know there must be a host of other American companies doing same), I am surprised that such things are not on the mainstream news channels (CNN, BBC, FOX etc). Remember all the news coverage, internet site, US govt involvement concerning Nigerian Scammers! Why is FOX not investigating and reporting this? maybe because it is being perpetrated by Americans!.
You guys should all go get a life. You piss me off! Hypocrites!
Thank you to ALL of you.
If you wonder if your postings here have ever cost them anything or saved a single person, you can bet your sweet rear-end it has.
My short story is this...
Got a call from the guys stating that since I had downloaded a free ebook that they were looking for people to coach. They did not want any money for this coaching but only wanted to get back a 'good' referral or story about how they helped people achieve their goals. Well I listened to what they said, and in some parts they said all the right words, in some other words, they set off warnings in my, and my wife's head. They asked for 12, 120 (yep, you read that right) for a moderate coaching approach. They said they take credit cards, and I said "hey great, but I do not have that kind of balance on cards. But in the Credit Union, I have my savings. How about a wire transfer? "
They jumped at the chance and gave me the company name (ivy capital, inc) and the account and routing numbers of the company. ([protected] and [protected] respectively). They told me that they would 'save' my spot until the morning when I could wire the money. Well, folks, with this information, I was able to do a bit of research on this site, BBB site, and finance sites and find out the truth about the company. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting this stuff here.
If you want to provide the account information in the class action suit, to the IRS for tax purposes, or for any use, feel free. They gave it to me free and willing and it was NOT coerced in anyway.
First of all I want to tell everyone who has a complaint about IVY Capital that they are using your gullibility to rip you off. I do not know of any quick and easy method to make money. If anyone tries to sell you this line they are trying to scam you. They are trying to scam me right now as I'm writing this letter, but I'm on to them and I told them so.
Now you all are like me, wanting to make money on the internet. First of all you have to do research, and decide what products you want to sell. Then you have to decide what type of company you want to form. In most cases a LLC is the way to go. Do research on the kind of companies that you can form and then talk to a lawyer. In most cases it will cost you under a $1, 000. It cost me $850 and my lawyer did all the work to set up my LLC. After you do that it’s time to decide what kind of website you want. There are a lot of legit companies out there; you just have to research them. What type of website you set up will depend on how many products you want to sell. The more products you want to sell the more it will cost you.
The next step is deciding what kind of template you want. Most companies will offer you 3 types. They have simple templates that are free, Premium templates that run anywhere from a few hundred dollars to a thousand dollars, or elite templates that run from a thousand dollars up. With the free or premium templates they will do some of the work in setting them up but you will have to do the rest of the work in deciding how the template looks. With the elite templates they will do all the work per your instructions. You will have to figure out how much you want to spend. My suggestion is to start with a free or premium template as you can always upgrade later.
You also must take into consideration how you are going to market your website. You can have the best website in the world but if people don't know it's there you will not make any money. All this might seem hard but if you’re not going to put the time and effort into this you will fail. I spent about $2, 500 in setting up my website and in paying my lawyer. I do not expect to make money right away as it takes time and money to set up a successful business, but I'm willing to do what it takes to make my business a success. By the way I'm a retired person with little money but I'm not letting anything or anyone stop me.
Please let me reinstate that there are no quick or easy methods to make money online. If it sounds too good to be true it is. Use your common sense and research everything. You do not need to pay people for information that is free if you put your own time and effort into it. I hope this letter helps you in some way in setting up your own business. In trying to help you I'll give you 2 sites to help you in deciding what kind of website to have, and the other to help you decide what products to sell. I'm not telling you to use these sites or buy anything from them. Use them as research to see what is out there and compare them with other sites that you research. Remember research, research, and research. I wish you all luck in starting the business of your dreams. The sites are volusion.com and doba.com.
Wow, glad I checked this out before investing thousands of dollars, look like there up to it again.
I, too, must confess that I was sucked into almost every promotion and promise they sent out. My loss is in the thousands...more than some less than others. My first shocking eye opener was after about four months, I was told my website would have to be shut own and reopened with all new technology. But Vianet would help me with all the transfers for only another $500. All the work in setting up the original website was totally wasted, because THEY were changing their setups. TOTALLY WASTED TIME! And, they wanted me to pay THEM more money to fix it. What they were switching to is the totally free internet Word Press programs. Word Press is free on the internet!
My biggest frustration is that they are still pushing their trash.
I am presenting battling with Universal because I stopped the automatic credit card payments for non-existent coaching. Talk to someone and you get one line...talk to another, you get another story. Act interested in a promotion and you will be the focus of attention. Once you pay, you wait, and wait...
Isn't there something we can collectively do to stop this. I was so frustrated with Vianet I went out and found Visible.net! Remember the old saying...well, things could be worse! With Visible they were unbelievably worse! I learned my lesson well, and it did not come cheap. Beween the two companies we're looking at a payout of close to $10, 000. I read one gentleman's complaint with Visible and he lost $19, 000 with just them!
I for one would be interested in a class action suit. I know the mony will not come back but it would be nice to see them fined and/or jailed for their scams. I think Visible people should just go to jail. I didn't know these scams were so easy to fall into. The Nigerian scams have nothing on our American scams.
I can be reached at pskwwe@gmail.com if any other victims would like to see what we can do together to stop further abuse.
I am jobless and desperately looking for a job, i got scammed of these Shell Company..At first the Website named MyProfitSite.com, i paid $49.95 they send me the link it became HomeWebsiteCenter.com theres an automated website but it needs more money to Pro $$47.95 to open, plus $ 49.94 for the Traffic Engines, in 4 weeks never earned any cents..4 weeks after Bruce calls me he wants me to Invest $3, 800.00 and lots of promising he said in just 2 or days i will earn a thousand of dollars, and paid-off all my depths. This woman named Pat, record my voice while signing the contract with no business address. They sent me some the links to follow it shows at the bottom ICI it meant Ivy Capital Inc., E Capital, and also the VianetWebzone it makes me so confuse. Few days after another person calls me Chris he wants me to put another Investment $$$$$$7, 280.00 for the name of my Website seems makes me so so so confuse, i cancelled my subscription never open the website at all no coaching happened.. I sent them emails all of the addressess but theres no reply of my cancellation, i call this number [protected] but answering machine no person. I received a reply from them but not for the cancellation they want me to speak the ICI System Resolution Department, this woman name Melinda insisted that she is not affiliate with those people and still selling their product and so rude she threatened me that they will sue me.. She still want me to pay the $$3, 800.00 no matter what, this people are slugs, greedy liar..
BEWARE!
JeffJackson.com
MyProfiteSite.com
HomeWebsiteCenter.com
ICI it meant Ivy Capital Inc.
SuccessTeamFinance.com
VianetWebzone.com
Universal Account Servicing, LLC
NB Online Marketing
I already file the case against this business with BBB. To All those Victims I will be there to support the complain..
I dont sale anything i just put this name of my email 'coz i thought i could a business at home: saleproduct@ymail.com
I see SOME commentS of the above that the Ivy Capital Inc, is a good business what the HELLLLLLLLLL is that!.. If that business is succcessful RETURNED OUR MONEY ! GIVE OUR MONEY BACK! What is patience ? wiithout earnings any cents? or earn never!
I was also ripped off by Ivy Capital, and Corporate Credit Concepts. I paid $8880.00 to Ivy Capital and $7990.00 to Corporate Credit Concepts. I did the work, had a site running, and did not make 1 dime in sales. They make you believe that you cannot lose because of the millions of people on the net, Just waiting to buy from you. My experience is exactly like the stories I have been reading here. If someone is starting a class action suit, I will be glad to be a member of the class. They are slick scam artists. They deserve to get hit financially.
Teri
I too was scammed! I am a single mom with two little boys about to be laid off and I used my tax return, not to pay off my already large bills, but to try and make sure my children and I could stay afloat when I was laid off. I told them all of this and they still took every extra penny I had! My "coach" kept calling in sick and I never even got a session. I'm so sad. They actually took food from my babies' mouthes the whole time telling me I was doing the right thing for them. Someone needs to stop them...
Yes, they are fast talking slick scam artists. All they want is your money, even if you don't have any. I was promised that I would make the money back really fast, no worries. I used two different credit cards. $8880.00 to Ivy Capital, and $7990.00 to Corporate Credit Concepts. These are the exact figures from my credit card statements. Total: $16, 870. I was so naive. I could have had a site built outright for that money. Two weeks after I got fleeced by Ivy Capital, CCC called me up for their pitch. Again, fast talking slick scam artists who make you believe that you are not really in business until you set up a business entity. They talked about all the advantages of having an LLC in Nevada. They're main selling point was that no other lawyer could "pierce the corporate veil" if you set up the LLC in Nevada. Well I fell for it, and at the very end of the pitch they tell you how much it will cost you. For me it was $7990. For that money they created the LLC with a fake office in Nevada. I hope you all know that it is not over with your first massive payment. Every year you have to pay $250.00 for them to maintain the office. If they try to get ANY more money out of me I will stop payment on the card(s). They were also supposed to help me build corporate credit. They set you up with a coach who is supposed to be available for your questions. But when I asked my coach how to register the LLC in my own state she just referred me to another person. When I called this person, he referred me back to her. A circle jerk ! The help they gave consisted of logging into a back office, and following a list of tasks. Personal help was no-where to be found.
This whole thing has been a nightmare. Their is no corporate credit to transfer your debt to. Their is no money from the website I created. I gave the program 1 year. I didn't see one penny. I pulled down the website because I cannot afford the 30.00 web hosting fee. They are still charging me that fee after countless emails to them. No more! Any more charges from those sleaze bags will be stopped!
Teri Hanright
I just registered a complaint with the BBB. Next will be with the Attorney General in Nevada. I sure hope that someone can shut down these scammers.
Teri Hanright
In an effort to always resolve all of our complaints we encourage anyone who has an unresolved issue to contact us at customercare@icisuccess.com. We do care about our students success and stand behind the services we provide.
Check out this link: THERE IS AN EX-EMPLOYEE WHO SUBMITS A POST AND COMES CLEAN ABOUT IVY CAPITAL!
Teri, i will support your complaints. I hate scammers.
Ivy- Capitol and Business Development Division assisted me with building my Corporate Credit and I was very successful with their program. I don't understand where you people have gone wrong. They lay out all the assignments required to build a powerful business profile and all I had to do was follow the instructions. I now have over 300k in credit in 6 and a half months with the program. So there is about an hour or 2 a week of stuff that I had to do and if that is done there is no room for error as far as I can see!
I have been with the companies listed for over eleven months .I have been thru everthing all of you have stated, I am tired, Disappointed and a firm believer that what comes around goes around.I have spent hundreds of hours working with these so called coaches, a miserable excuse of customer service and pretty much all of the fertilizer this company has given me for over a ten thousand dollar investment.Their commitment, service, guarantee is worth about as much as said fertilizer you would find on the ground in a feed lot.They have drained me of money slowly each month with hosting fees, the initial investment of $6995.00 was one thing but as time went on that is what they do make you think you will make lots of money and we all want the American Dream Power is in numbers, flood the Attorney Generals office with calls and letters, Call ever news media out let you can find, they have taken hundreds of people. Its time all those people step up and work together to get our money back.If any one of us tried to do this I think we would go to jail for fraud, at least in the state I live in.You make the call, stand alone or stand together...