Macomb County Friend Of The Court review: unfair payment 12

I find this disturbing. My ex lives in Michigan, has all working parts (arms, legs...) and is excused by Friend of the Court with his pathetic excuses of not finding work. Let me say that he works under the table as a contractor but his priorities are, himself, drugs, booze and whatever ### girl he can get. If he has any money leftover for his children, they might get some.

We are paying for these people at these child enforcement agencies to make sure these people pay. It's ridiculous how they pick and choose who does pay! Maybe if the government paid the child support they would definitely make sure THEY would get paid!

BEWARE Macomb County FOC is not there to help the innocent
I had to send this to find something out there to share with the world how much the court system can hurt you. Please I beg you if you are going thru a divorce, going thru domestic violence, abused children, what ever it may be you better be very wealthy and find a good attorney which is very difficult to do. Which is sad for the attorney's that are actually decent and never recognized.

Here is my story.

I was married for almost 10 years 8 1/2 of which were in a very abusive marriage most of the time the mental abuse way over exceeded the physical. My ex used to love to see how much pain I could tolerate before I would beg for him to stop hurting me. I will never forget one of the last times he was twisting my arm slowing braking it that I could hear and feel the bone cracking. Every night he would tell me to sleep with my eyes open. I finally decided to file for divorce when my ex called my son 5years old at the time a ### because he was crying. My son was never good enough for his dad, never skinny enough he was an embarresment in his fathers eyes and let him know it all of the time. Telling him he was going to send him to a fat camp. Telling my son to get away from him when he would be in public playing with other kids trying to look like Mr. Dad. He would take him to cubscouts function and spend the entire time getting drunk and telling my son to get away from him . My ex would do what ever he could to look good in public in front of people but when it came down to it in private he was pure evil. I was really sick didn't know what was wrong with me and he told me that he was slowly poisoning me and not to worry about telling anyone becuase they would never be able to detect it. "why do you think I make you coffee all the time" he said. I found a shot gun and shell under my bed. This was right before I filled for divorce at the same time he was calling my son names. He has been arrested for domestic violence, for being in contempt of court, he has numerous police reports on him one from an elementary school that he was banded from becuase they were all in fear of the staffs and childrens lives. Teachers have put in complaint, Principles, Police have warned him, he was flagged at the child protective services for being crazy and falsifing information. Teachers would not show up to work on days that they knew he was going to be picking up the kids from school. He put one teacher in tears becuase she asked that he supply her with stamps so that she could send him updates on school info. Child Protective service wrote a letter stating that they were in fear of my childrens lives while they were in the care of their father. She also told me Quote "if I were you, I would take my kids and run" . My ex has had PPO orders put against him on numerous occasion has gone against every single court order he has had. Do you know that none of this has helped my case. It was all irrelevant in court, that each individual would have to file a complaint against him directly to the courts for it to make a difference and it still would not help my case.

I was told that "kids have no rights" "get it thru your head" she said, kids have know rights" how do I protect my children I have spent my parenting life teaching my children between right and wrong trying to protect them from strangers, drugs, sex, but the one person I can not protect them from is their own father. 11years later and 20, 000 dollars I still can get no help and my daughter still cries almost every weekend begging me to figure out away that she does not have to go. Please maam she says help me think of something I can tell him so I don't have to go. He will check into everything she says. I hate going over there. I am nobody to them its so fake and they are so mean. She does love her father becuase he is her father but she is terrified of him and hates it.

This man is remarried and his wife throws things at my daughter and calls her an f ing B to her face and there is nothing that I can do. My daughter is so scared and has begged me to not saying anything.

Let me back up.

So 11 years ago I found a letter on my sons floor detailing how he hates his father how scared he is to spend his summer vacation over there and how horribly mean he is to my son. I told the courts this and how child protective services stated that my children were not safe with him and that they requested that he get a sych. evaluation. The courts in turn made us both go thru an eval paying $300.00 each. I saved ever dime I had to go how could I lose my kids were miserable I did not show the court the letter my son wrote in fear that their father would see it. The courts swore they were there to protect them (hahaha) and could see thru bribary and threats. Going forward we go to this meeting I tell them everything a week or so go by and there is a letter in the mail stating that nothing was going to be done and that both parties were angry and that was the problem. Are you kidding me. With the entire history there your darn right I was angry, and scared, and hurt, and desperate. So come to find out after my son would not speak to me for a week that their father threatened them and bribed them with the world to tell the courts what they wanted to hear.

It is a never ending battle. I have to now let this abusive man know every single time I take my children to a doctors appt for the sniffles, dentist, eye doctor, or my children could be taken from me. He on the other hand has never told me anything that he has done with my kids but gets away with it. There is a court order that summer time vacation is to be submitted by May 15th of every year and it is to be from Sunday to Sunday and it must be agreed upon by both parties. 11 years later I am lucky if I get two weekends out of the summer with my children because he keeps them from Friday to Sunday and and doesn't tell me his vacation time. He picks them up on a Friday for his weekend and keeps them thru my weekend with out even my approval to do so. He just takes them and keeps them and was told by the courts that he is allowed his time period end of story. Regardless about our lives or if we had vacation planned none of it matters. I was told today [protected] years later that if I want to have this fixed then I need to hire an attorney pay another $100.00 and file a motion even thow there is already a court order in place in our original divorce decree, to have this corrected.

And owe please let me back up even more lets talk a second about the "SMILE" program please what a waste of time. It would be great if there weren't demeanted crazy people who only care about them selves and if the courts actaully gave a damn about children. Please try to prove mental abuse... almost impossible.

His wife has called me over and over calling me every name in the book, she has cut my daughters hair off on numerous occasions telling her little girls shouldnt have long hair and you don't need to look like your mother. When my children first started staying over at their fathers my daughter had a little blanket that she would sleep with and she asked if I would put my perfume on it so that when she missed me should could hold it and smell me like if I were there, so I did. This woman took the blanket from my daughter throwing a fit about her having a stupid blanket and how she is too old for it and how it stunk and put it in the wash. My daughter was devestated. She was only three at the time.

It is a living night mare. These two go thru my children with everything but will never talk to me about anything when it comes to parenting but has me in court every chance they get just making things up. I stand there with my mouth to the ground looking like a complete imbacile becuase I have no idea what they are talking about and it would be for something that they did to me.

I finally thought I had a chance in hell when my ex was being arrested for being in contempt of court FINALLY, Judge Viviano had to have the baliff get my ex because he started going after me in front of the judge as he was being arrested and threatening me calling me a B and he will get me for this. Mind you it was the first time I had ever taken him to court becuase I couldn't take it any more, every other time it was him taking me and what ever I tried to say was irelevant I was just another face meant nothing they will not look at your history and try to help you. He told me it (at this time) "it was only $20.00 out of his pocket and he will continue to make my life hell for as long as he can"
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He is fixated with having to pay child support I have been taken to court around 15 times just over CS becuase he doesn't want to pay. In the beginning of the divorce he told me I had better not file for child support if I needed money I can ask him. You have to be kidding this is a man that wouldn't allow me to buy my children shoes, my mother would have to sneak money to me so that I could get them things that the needed. I remember I spent $15.00 dollars at a resale store and got my babies bags of beautiful clothes, he was sooooo pissed at me that he screamed and lectured me for hours and then that same day ordered a $2000.00 computer and then told me how sorry he was and said come on baby let me take you guys out to dinner. So going forward witht he support he was told if he got so many over nights that he would not have to pay as much. So yes he brought me to court to get more over night time he didn't get the time he wanted so do you know he brought me right back to court the very next week to cancel the time the courts gave him. He had Sundays over nights, every other weeken, and Monday and Wednesday visitation. He had his Sunday over nights and his Monday visitation canceled immediately, then about a year or so later canceled his every Wednesday to every other Wednesday then less then a year from there just gave up all of his Wednesdays telling my children, myself, and Judge Viviano that it was worth his time his gas nor his money to pick them up. When he canceled his Sunday's and Mondays he was less then 5 minutes from my house.

He tried to take my children from me because I put my house on the market and he asked me if I was going to move out by him. I asked him is he lost his bloody mind, why would I do that. So I got a threatening letter from his attorney stating that he was going to court to file a change of custody becuase I was not going to move by him and for what I said and becuase I bought my son a cell phone for emergency use and did not let him know, even thow there was a court order that he was only to contact the kids by house phone nor more then 2 times a week. You will hear that story later.

Where is the justice. Let me really floor you. I have a dear dear friend whom was going thru the same cituations. She remarried a wonderful Canadian man, they moved to Canada. Her ex's wife threatened to kidnap her children, my girlfriend had numerous e-mails from her stating this she would also send them to her daughter. Michigan said there was nothing they could do until she actually physcially attemped the act. Canada immediatly got on it and tried everything in their power to help her. Her ex also got into three drunk driving car accidents with her babies in the care and other then the time he spent in jail never one time lost any of his rights with the kids.

My ex actually admitted to groups of people that he was stalking me and laughing about it watching my home and the police nor the courts would help me.

He was getting married and sending me flowers home with my children and pictures of us together. Then he was telling the police how he was scared for my children as he was crying in front of groups of people telling me what a wonderful mother I am. He would call my home 25 times in one weekend threatening me on my weekend with my kids that I am denying him his rights of his kids and he was taking me to court. I wouldnt even be home to get a phone call sometimes he would be talking to them hang up and call back screaming it at me. He would speak to my kids hang up the phone saying good bye then call the police stating that my childrens lives were in jeopardy, thank goodness I would record every single call that came in. I had to becuase he was and still is CRAZY and no one will help me. NO ONE will help my children. I was told yet again today that "KIDS HAVE NO RIGHTS" didn't matter I would have to prove mental abuse. 11 years later my daughter is terrified to say a word becuase she knows no one will help her.

If someone tells you to take notes and document everything and record all conversations don't bother it doesn't matter nothing matters. I have note book after note book full of things he did to my children and I and none of it mattered. I was told by the courts and my attorney that if he did something wrong when picking up my children that I was to call the police. One Year he had my children on Christmas Eve and was supposed to bring them home 10:00 Christmas Morning I waited and waited and waited had family and friends at my home waiting excited to celebrate the holidays. Finally I called him asking where my babies were, he said he would bring them back when he damn well felt like it that if I had a problem I can go there and get them. I got in my car and drove 25 minutes got the local police and got my babies for Christmas. Do you know I got into trouble with the courts and they threatened me again that they would take my children from me and what a horrible mother I was for getting the police in volved on Christmas. Nothing was done to him NOTHING.

My beautiful son just turned 18 is father NEVER had a relationship with my children until about 1 year ago he started bonding with my son. Which would be beautiful if it were for the right reasons. He started plaining on having my son move in with him NEVER saying a word to me. He promised my son the world a new wardrobe, a new bedroom set, he even bought him a car that he was not allowed to have unless he moved in with him. He told my son that it was my fault that he did not have a relationship with him. That the pictures of bruiseses on my body were lies that everything was a lie. So long story short with that beautiful picture painted in his mind and dont forget a car, my son left on Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Do you know Monday I got a threatening text from the ex to meet him at the courts. You have got to be kidding me, then I recieved a lovely threatening letter in the mail regarding of course nothing other then child support. It's all about the money.

I have tried to not get my kids involved but there is only so much that you can hide from them. When the police, child protective service are constantly at your door and they don't understand why. My children would come home EVERY weekend in tears of how much they hated going over there begging and pleading to not make them go but some how its my fault. They would tell teachers, friends, and neighbors but this still didn't matter. I was just an angry ex.

When he would call CPS and he would lie so badly and couldn't keep his story straight that he would actually give them dates that were times that he had my children and I wouldn't even have been home.

I have tried everything. I pray for you all out there that are going thru this man or woman. I don't care who you are if you are a good person you are screwed in the courts system. If you know how to lie, cheat, steal, and be abusive you have got it made. Let me tell you my ex could lie and make up a story like no one else. He would literally be laughing then the referee would walk up and he would make himself cry saying poor me. I would be astounded what a liar what a fake. And GOD help you if you ever have to deal with Karen Nelson please don't even go there owe unless you are a man that can lie thru your teeth.

I am sorry this has dragged on for so long, this is the most heart wrenching experience of my life. Divorces DO NOT save you nor protect you or your children. Get involved in every support group you can get you hands on. The courts wont help you but others that have experienced your pain can and they can give you strength and courage. I wish I would have listened and done it from the beginning. I was so scared and always wondered what did I do wrong.

Please do not take this wrong becuase truly it makes me sick thinking about it but in a sick demeanted way I understand why you hear these stories about parents taking the law into their own hands and taking theirs and their childrens lives becuase they do not know any other way to protect their babies. Again I do not agree with this but if the court systems would actually open their eyes and care just a little bit maybe there wouldn't be so much crime. Don't ever take the law in your hands find support get help you wont win on your own you wont win with the courts helps but people that have gone thru this know how to find ways to help innocent men, woman, and children. Don't give up be stronge God BlessYou all may you be strong and number one thing find your faith and believe and pray. God will always prevail and I will never give up on him. It may take time but good will always over come evil. Be Safe

Ok, so my story is not the nightmare that some people’s stories are with the FOC. But I have a couple of problems with this system too.
My ex wife and I get along fairly well. We have been divorced in 2002 and separated in 2001. That is when my court record states anyway. I have been paying my child support in full every month, including almost a year of looking for a job and several years in between that made less than nothing. I did fall behind but I got caught back up when I was making better money again. Also, I actually gave 2, 000 dollars cash and she told them about it so it could help me get caught up and she signed a not and had it notarized telling them i gave it to her. They actually sent both of us a nasty note telling us that if we ever did that again they would not let us use "their" system anymore!
My Ex does not use the money she and her new husband make ok money. So the money goes into an account for my daughter for college. So, great! I would never complain about the money even if my ex was spending it, she is better with money than I am anyway! But here is where the fun part starts. I call the FOC and my ex and I go down there to ask if we can increase the amount that comes out of my pay. I mean after all I just got caught up and I was used to paying more anyway. I was told that we needed to get attorneys and go back to court if we wanted to voluntarily "increase" the amount! What? Really?
We need to pay attorneys so that I can give her more money! That is unreal! So instead I just deposit extra money myself. Also, I noticed that the "service fees" seem to go up. Now if this is a tax payer organization, we are there fees? And why does the money come out of my account on one day and sometimes my ex does not get it for 2 weeks? What are they doing with the money for 2 weeks? I know they have it and my ex knows they have it.
Now lucky for me my ex and I talk, I do not think that is true for most and I think they count it! I am not against the system, as I live out of state and it makes it easier getting the money to her, but really between "fees" and delays on money and BS red tape for things like adding or subtracting the amount of child support, there really has to be a better way.
Now my "Dad", if you want to call him that, growing up paid next to nothing to my mom for 4 kids and actually made pretty good money. So, if an attack dog like this FOC was around then it would have helped my mom. But times change some for the better and some for the worse, but a system like this, with good intentions, really needs to revaluate every now again!

My name is Rami Yousif and this is my story and my bad experience with Macomb county friend of the court and the whole judicial system. I worked as a linguist with the US Army in Iraq for more than 3 years and I had survived few attacks while I was doing my job and my duty. I had an excellent Job I used to get pay 175, 000 a year and I had a direct deposit into my checking account. While I was gone over seas I had allot of issues with my ex-wife about finance. Every time I ask her what is the status of the finances. She replies back that everything is perfect. Well, upon arrival to Michigan I did my private investigations and I found that she stole all the money that I made in the 3 years which is more than 500, 000 and I had two houses in my name and both of them went for closure. She was late on car payment so the car got repossessed. In addition, my credit cards they were all maxed to their limits. Not only had that she stolen my belongings all and my jeweler which are appraised for 110, 000. On top of all of that she did an insurance fraud. She went on trip to visit with her brother in Dominican Republic and paid some money to make a false police report and she got paid 30, 000 check and she cashed it at her uncle store. So when I filed for divorce and explained to the court what happened. None will listen to what I wanted to say. The referee, the judge and friend of the court. so everything is vanished as a price for a stupid sacrifice I made for this country.by the way my advice to you not to hire Jeffery Davis as an attorney cause he did not do anything to help my case the only time he will contact me is to remind me about making him some payment which reached at that time 17, 000. I paid the attorney about 7, 000 and I had to file for bankruptcy….so listen to this a year later I work and start paying my child support then I got laid off from work and start collecting unemployment. So Macomb county friend of the court start sending me letters for the outstanding balance of child support and start deducting $ 180 a week for child support out of 360 that I’m receiving. So the hell a person is going to SERVIVE AND WHAT HAPPEN TO JUSTICE REALLY? Unfortunately, I want to say that the system is really messed up it is a crooked system full of hypocrites of all different kinds. If anyone who is interested in this story and utilize it in other direction as far as news reports, book or even a movie you are more than welcome and I have all the exhibits and evidence.
My contact information is:
remy.martin1738@yahoo.com
Cell: [protected]

Well I think that the friend of the court is a complete JOKE ! I have been trying to get child support for years and the prosecuters office has not been able to help me at all ...Im not even going to go through the whole story cause frankly it just makes my blood boil ! So I will continue to waste my time and try to file again for the 4 th time ! I think if this doesnt work Im going to the media .. I work 2 jobs to support my kids work 7 days a week it would be nice to be able to spend some time with my children and have some family time ..While he roams the streets having no care in the world ..

Tana Tasevska
tasevski76@hotmail.com

My daughter has been in the FOC system in Macomb County since October of 2010. In that period numerous mutual agreements have been reached, submitted to the court and formalized as orders. In every case these orders have been violated repeatedly by her ex husband. Every time she has gone back to court to seek enforcement she has been reprimanded and the court has refused to enforce the terms of their own orders. Today she had a motion heard before Judge Kathryn A. George to have a court appointed coordinator removed for cause. A motion for change in parenting was filed by her ex in response to her motion and heard BEFORE the motion for dismissal of the coordinator thus allowing the coordinator, who has also consistently refused to acknowledge or enforce the court's orders, to testify on behalf of her ex husband. The judge not only allowed this, she awarded her ex husband changes requested without any consideration whatsoever of the agreements he voluntarily entered into and then immediately and repeatedly violated. The decisions that have been rendered are in NO WAY in the bests interests of the children and if the court would just honestly follow the requirements of the state statutes regarding custody they would never be rendered. The children are routinely mentally abused while in his custody and his violations of the court's orders have seriously disrupted the children's routines and ability to participate in their school and community in a normal manner. What I have been witness to over the past 3 years has left me even more completely frustrated and contemptuous of the court system than I already was. Justice is simply not possible when a system ignores its own mandates and substitutes unsupported presumptions and psycho babble for a real determination of what is in the best interests of the children. It should be noted that the coordinator, when appointed was specifically charged with enforcing the agreement that accompanied her appointment and was specifically granted access to the children. She has rendered determinations that not only fly in the face of the court's order but have taken no account whatsoever of the children. Never once has she even discussed exercising her authority to speak to them and believe me they have asked numerous times to talk to her or a judge. Actions such as those that my daughter, her children and I have been subjected to are exactly the types of things that convince people that they have no ability to gain justice or satisfaction of any kind within the law. When a person constantly abuses others and the system and the system helps him do it, people are left with few rational options. I don't know what I can do moving forward but at this point I am disgusted and contemptuous of the court system and fearful for my grand children's future

May I tell you that the macomb county court sucks. I haven't seen child support In years and they don't do anything to help and judge kathryn viviano is a bitter bitter woman who doesn't need the seat she holds..

The friend of the court in Macomb is a joke.I pay support while my daughter lives with me.I went the motion route .Got in front of custody officer Sherrington.Explained my daughters mother at time did not even have a place to live.She said if my daughter was not self mutilating her self she would do nothing.Told me to file yet another motion.There main goal is to make money and keep court full.Helping people is not what they do.Most of there work could be done on phone but file motions over and over just stupid.I work and raise children.I cant be up there to defend my self because there job is there.Most states just have court no stupid friend of court.They just want going money that's it