Petshack Chihuahua's Nancy White review: Sells Sick Dogs 225

don't worry, I will put a stop to this. I have police reports, FBI reports & filed in the courts. This is all BS, does not matter what anyone of you think or say. I will continue what Im doing and doing it the way I have been doing it.. done :)

farrah & Pethag seem like a bunch of old woman, thinking that its ok to keep breeding.They both sicken me.

Lista you started this long time ago.. what almost 1 yr. You get all you deserve and more .. no pity by me for you :)

then you try to sue for (deformation of Character) LMAO .. you have no clue Lista do you, are really that far from reality?

I 'm from FLA :)

I am going to be the adult here and stop this, please do the same Lista

someone shut this fat ### up.I have never seen a 60 yr old NORMAL woman act like this.

Miss farrah, needs a job.NO WAY THIS BEONGS TO A 27 YR OLD.YOU ARE A DUMB ### LISTA IS NOT EVEN ON.YOU ARE PATHETIC..

i forgot, i was told you live with your mom, in your state i believe having a kid at that age is about right.how do you have the time to help your mom and breed all those dogs.looks from that picture, that you live in deplorable conditions, where the hell does all the money go that you make on your poorly bred chis.you should be proud of yourself, living at home with mommy, no job.Must be your mom that takes care of you and the dogs.she needs to give you a wake up call, and kick your fat ### to the curb.

Lets see how many phone calls you get when i put you on some dating sites...lmfao

To celebrate, the company first anniversary, Some commodities have been, discount .Anti-purchase at this site Any goods, we will giving a Christmas gift .In addition Buy $ 300 and receive a free glasses or a wallet, as a Christmas gift . welcome all friends to order. Reputation, quality, absolute guarantee. please log in: http://www.fashionsb.com . so what, move your mouse .

Yes Lista you do breed, you are such a liar. You have bought 1 from me, 2 from Farrah and was given Merlin all UNFIXED ... you wanted them for your breeding lines. Wow you amaze me, and what about the liter of Chiweenies? Litter of Chihuahuas? & Litter of Doxies? You my friend need to be exposed! As you have bred brother to sister together... how do I know YOU told me! Get a life Lista you are not who you say you are I know first hand.

I just want to say thank you to those who read my comment, in particular Lucy. Thank you for responding back to me, I really appreciate it. I'm not here to judge anybody, but it means a lot to me if someone can take something I said and learn something from it. Especially when it has to do with the well being of animals! I wish you all the luck in continuing your plight, fighting for animal rights and all the wonderful volunteering and fostering that you do. You won your battle against cancer because of good karma. Not to mention many more animals out there need your help, and it was not your time to leave them. Keep up the great work you are doing for these amazing little dogs and ignore that woman over there at the Petshack. She will get hers!

As for you Nancy I'm still waiting to hear what you have to say. I'm sure you read my post/comment. Are you even going to try to defend yourself? Probably not, because there is no excuse you can come up with. Why? Maybe because you know it is wrong to breed your dogs when millions of other dogs around the world are being put to death prematurely, partly because of breeders like you! I have a real hard time swallowing the fact that you say you love animals when you are behaving in this manner. Meaning your continuing in the practice of dog breeding. Somehow I can't stop from thinking that you are indeed in it for the money. If not, than why not rescue and foster, or volunteer at local shelters like your arch enemy Lucy does?

Nevertheless Nancy you seem to have all kinds things to say to the people on here, but for whatever reason you choose to ignore me. So be it. Continue with your unethical way of living. Your day will come and when you're standing in front of those pearly gates, don't be surprised when you're sent the other way!

LOL why, I'm tried of all the BS .
Yes I breed and so does Lista.. since she has not admit it I guess you believe that she does not...lol joke on you! And she fooled another one, trust me she BOUGHT a puppy from me, was given a Blue Merle that was to be FIXED & she has bred him, she also BOUGHT 2 unfixed females { that she wanted breeder size} from Farrah's Chihuahua's. Trust me she Deoes not do all that she says in her post... I have to laugh as I know better, just like she said " I was never a Nail tech"..LOL I posted her Lic # etc on her... with no reply from her.. why BUSTED!
I'm still trying to find her Nursing Lic# as I think this is a lie also, and why not asked around in the Rescue's in FLA and see what they say about this "wonderful" person Lista...will make you puke trust me as she has pulled one over on you also. I say it like it is, I see you are against dog breeders and that is your choice, I do not like PITA myself as they kill more dogs then the shelters do.

All I can say is I do not live off the system, I support myself, dogs, birds & rescues from what I make through my shop, this also cover vets costs & transport. I have always said " if your gonna breed then you should also rescue" most have a hard time with this. I have given my puppies away to people who want one but cannot afford one of my puppies.. I'm more then what you think I am. My biggest support in my town is my 2 vets, shelter & 3 rescues .. I help all including the Sheriff dept when they find a stray's I house them and post till I find owners, been in the paper for this many times. I save dogs from death row that need more time to find a home and are great dogs & would make a awesome pet... I test them out and then place them. before you judge on another person words you may want to ask ... so many people can hide behind a PC screen and talk the talk ... when really they are no better then you or I.

Nevertheless Nancy you seem to have all kinds things to say to the people on here, but for whatever reason you choose to ignore me. So be it. Continue with your unethical way of living. Your day will come and when you're standing in front of those pearly gates, don't be surprised when you're sent the other way!

LOL and just what does this mean? No I had one thing to say to One person, same person who has stalked me for 1 yr now. And ask her what this has to do with ? she is lost in all her lies and bet has no clue!

Unethical way of living?
Tell me what do you do for a living? I 'm a business owner of a grooming shop for 6yrs with over 500 clients .

December 19, 2010 at 12:59pm Report
I had commented on one of the posts either you or Farrah had and this was what she sent me. I didn't know how to take it so I didn't reply to her. Maybe that was rude of me, but I just didn't want to deal with her. It seems she has had a rough life but that doesn't give her the right to be so mean. Sounds like she needs some counseling. Hope she stops harrasing you and Farrah.

one of the many emails I got from friends.

By using people's names and providing their addresses, you put people's lives in danger. I hope you realize that. The Internet is filled with predators and schemers just waiting for some one to do something like this. Here you've provided MORE than enough information for some one to hijack these people's identities. You've also made us targets for every animal rights fanatic or crackpot on the internet. Unless you can absolutely, beyond any doubt, prove what you're saying here, and have documented records to back up your charges, do NOT go around posting stuff like this. I've also filed a complaint with MySpace for improperly sharing private names and addresses, which is in violation of their TOS regulations.

1 hr 11 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Some Reading for Lista...

Defamation, Libel, and Slander: Background

The law of defamation protects a person's reputation and good name against communications that are false and derogatory. Defamation consists of two torts: libel and slander. Libel consists of any defamation that can be seen, most typically in writing. Slander consists of an oral defamatory communications. The elements of libel and slander are nearly identical to one another.

Historically, the law governing slander focused on oral statements that were demeaning to others. By the 1500s, English courts treated slander actions as those for damages. Libel developed differently, however. English printers were required to be licensed by and give a bond to the government because the printed word was believed to be a threat to political stability. Libel included any criticism of the English government, and a person who committed libel committed a crime. This history carried over in part to the United States, where Congress under the presidency of John Adams passed the Sedition Act, which made it a crime to criticize the government. Congress and the courts eventually abandoned this approach to libel, and the law of libel is now focused on recovery of damages in civil cases.

Beginning with the landmark decision in New York Times v. Sullivan (1964), the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized that the law of defamation has a constitutional dimension. Under this case and subsequent cases, the Court has balanced individual interests in reputation with the interests of free speech among society. This approach has altered the rules governing libel and slander, especially where a communication is about a public official or figure, or where the communication is about a matter of public concern.

Click here to find out more!
1 hr 8 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Defamation, Libel, and Slander: Background

The law of defamation protects a person's reputation and good name against communications that are false and derogatory. Defamation consists of two torts: libel and slander. Libel consists of any defamation that can be seen, most typically in writing. Slander consists of an oral defamatory communications. The elements of libel and slander are nearly identical to one another.

Historically, the law governing slander focused on oral statements that were demeaning to others. By the 1500s, English courts treated slander actions as those for damages. Libel developed differently, however. English printers were required to be licensed by and give a bond to the government because the printed word was believed to be a threat to political stability. Libel included any criticism of the English government, and a person who committed libel committed a crime. This history carried over in part to the United States, where Congress under the presidency of John Adams passed the Sedition Act, which made it a crime to criticize the government. Congress and the courts eventually abandoned this approach to libel, and the law of libel is now focused on recovery of damages in civil cases.

Beginning with the landmark decision in New York Times v. Sullivan (1964), the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized that the law of defamation has a constitutional dimension. Under this case and subsequent cases, the Court has balanced individual interests in reputation with the interests of free speech among society. This approach has altered the rules governing libel and slander, especially where a communication is about a public official or figure, or where the communication is about a matter of public concern.
1 hr 7 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Defamation Law: The Basics

When an official is criticized in a false and injurious way for something that relates to their behavior in office, the official must prove all of the above elements associated with normal defamation, and must additionally show that the statement was made with "actual malice."

"Actual malice" was defined in a Supreme Court case decided in 1964. There, the court held that certain statements that would otherwise be defamatory were protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. The court reasoned that the United States society had a "profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open."

This meant, according to the Court, that public officials could only win a defamation suit when the statement that was made was not an honest mistake and was in fact published with the actual intent to harm the public figure. According to the Court, actual malice was only found when the statement maker knew the statement was not true at the time he made it, or had reckless disregard for whether it was true or not.

For other people that are in the public eye, but not public officials, the defamation laws are also different. These people, such as celebrities and movie stars, must also prove, in most situations, that the defamatory statements were made with actual malice.

Freedom of speech is less meaningful when a statement is made about a private individual because the statement is probably not about a matter of public importance. As noted above, a private person has no need to show that the statement maker acted with actual malice in order to be victorious in their defamation lawsuit.
1 hr 6 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Elements of Libel and Slander

Specific requirements that a plaintiff must prove in order to recover in a defamation action differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Under the Restatement (Second) of Torts, which is drafted by the American Law Institute and has been influential among state courts, a plaintiff must prove four elements.

1. First, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made a false and defamatory statement concerning the plaintiff.
2. Second, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made an unprivileged publication to a third party.
3. Third, the plaintiff must prove that the publisher acted at least negligently in publishing the communication.
4. Fourth, in some cases, the plaintiff must prove special damages.

Defamatory Statements

One essential element in any defamation action is that the defendant published something defamatory about the plaintiff. The Restatement defines a communication as defamatory "if it tends so to harm the reputation of another as to lower him in the estimation of the community or to deter third persons from associating with him." Examples of defamatory statements are virtually limitless and may include any of the following:

* A communication that imputes a serious crime involving moral turpitude or a felony
* A communication that exposes a plaintiff to hatred
* A communication that reflects negatively on the plaintiff's character, morality, or integrity
* A communication that impairs the plaintiff's financial well-being
* A communication that suggests that the plaintiff suffers from a physical or mental defect that would cause others to refrain from associating with the plaintiff

One question with which courts have struggled is how to determine which standard should govern whether a statement is defamatory. Many statements may be viewed as defamatory by some individuals, but the same statement may not be viewed as defamatory by others. Generally, courts require a plaintiff to prove that he or she has been defamed in the eyes of the community or within a defined group within the community. Juries usually decide this question.

Courts have struggled to some degree with the treatment of statements of opinions. At common law, statements of opinion could form the basis of a defamation action similar to a statement of pure fact. Generally, if a statement implies defamatory facts as the basis of the opinion, then the statement may be actionable.
Publication Requirement

Another requirement in libel and slander cases is that the defendant must have published defamatory information about the plaintiff. Publication certainly includes traditional forms, such as communications included in books, newspapers, and magazines, but it also includes oral remarks. So long as the person to whom a statement has been communicated can understand the meaning of the statement, courts will generally find that the statement has been published.
Meaning of a Communication

In some instances, the context of a statement may determine whether the statement is defamatory. The Restatement provides as follows: "The meaning of a communication is that which the recipient correctly, or mistakenly but reasonably, understands that it was intended to express." Courts generally will take into account extrinsic facts and circumstances in determining the meaning of the statement. Thus, even where two statements are identical in their words, one may be defamatory while the other is not, depending on the context of the statements.
Reference to the Plaintiff

In a defamation action, the recipient of a communication must understand that the defendant intended to refer to the plaintiff in the communication. Even where the recipient mistakenly believes that a communication refers to the plaintiff, this belief, so long as it is reasonable, is sufficient. It is not necessary that the communication refer to the plaintiff by name. A defendant may publish defamatory material in the form of a story or novel that apparently refers only to fictitious characters, where a reasonable person would understand that a particular character actually refers to the plaintiff. This is true even if the author states that he or she intends for the work to be fictional.

In some circumstances, an author who publishes defamatory matter about a group or class of persons may be liable to an individual member of the group or class. This may occur when: (1) the communication refers to a group or class so small that a reader or listener can reasonably understand that the matter refers to the plaintiff; and (2) the reader or listener can reasonably conclude that the communication refers to the individual based on the circumstances of the publication.

Click here to find out more!
1 hr 5 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

The Requirement of Fault

One of the more difficult issues in a defamation case focuses on whether the defendant is at fault for publishing defamatory comments. Common law rules created strict liability on the part of the defendant, meaning that a defendant could be liable for defamation merely for publishing a false statement, even if the defendant was not aware that the statement was false. Cases involving an interpretation of the First Amendment later modified the common law rules, especially in cases involving public officials, public figures, or matters of public concern.
Common Law Rules

At common law, once a plaintiff proved that a statement was defamatory, the court presumed that the statement was false. The rules did not require that the defendant know that the statement was false or defamatory in nature. The only requirement was that the defendant must have intentionally or negligently published the information.
Public Officials and Public Figures

In New York Times v. Sullivan, the Supreme Court recognized that the strict liability rules in defamation cases would lead to undesirable results when members of the press report on the activities of public officials. Under the strict liability rules of common law, a public official would not have to prove that a reporter was aware that a particular statement about the official was false in order to recover from the reporter. This could have the effect of deterring members of the press from commenting on the activities of a public official.

Under the rules set forth in Sullivan, a public official cannot recover from a person who publishes a communication about a public official's conduct or fitness unless the defendant knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of the statement's truth or falsity. This standard is referred to as "actual malice, " although malice in this sense does not mean ill-will. Instead, the actual malice standard refers to the defendant's knowledge of the truth or falsity of the statement. Public officials generally include employees of the government who have responsibility over affairs of the government. In order for the First Amendment rule to apply to the public official, the communication must concern a matter related directly to the office.

Later cases expanded the rule to apply to public figures. A public figure is someone who has gained a significant degree of fame or notoriety in general or in the context of a particular issue or controversy. Even though these figures have no official role in government affairs, they often hold considerable influence over decisions made by the government or by the public. Examples of public figures are numerous and could include, for instance, celebrities, prominent athletes, or advocates who involve themselves in a public debate.
Private Persons

Where speech is directed at a person who is neither a public official nor a public figure, the case of Gertz v. Robert Welsh, Inc. (1974) and subsequent decisions have set forth different standards. The Court in Gertz determined that the actual malice standard established in New York Times v. Sullivan should not apply where speech concerns a private person. However, the Court also determined that the common law strict liability rules impermissibly burden publishers and broadcasters.

Under the Restatement (Second) of Torts, a defendant who publishes a false and defamatory communication about a private individual is liable to the individual only if the defendant acts with actual malice (applying the standard under New York Times v. Sullivan) or acts negligently in failing to ascertain whether a statement was false or defamatory.
1 hr 3 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Defenses to Libel and Slander

A defendant in a defamation case may raise a variety of defenses. These are summarized as follows:
Truth

The common law traditionally presumed that a statement was false once a plaintiff proved that the statement was defamatory. Under modern law, a plaintiff who is a public official or public figure must prove falsity as a prerequisite for recovery. Some states have likewise now provided that falsity is an element of defamation that any plaintiff must prove in order to recover. Where this is not a requirement, truth serves as an affirmative defense to an action for libel or slander.

A statement does not need to be literally true in order for this defense to be effective. Courts require that the statement is substantially true in order for the defense to apply. This means that even if the defendant states some facts that are false, if the "gist" or "sting" of the communication is substantially true, then the defendant can rely on the defense.
Consent

Where a plaintiff consents to the publication of defamatory matter about him or her, then this consent is a complete defense to a defamation action.
Absolute Privileges

Some defendants are protected from liability in a defamation action based on the defendant's position or status. These privileges are referred to as absolute privileges and may also be considered immunities. In other words, the defense is not conditioned on the nature of the statement or upon the intent of the actor in making a false statement. In recognizing these privileges, the law recognizes that certain officials should be shielded from liability in some instances.

Absolute privileges apply to the following proceedings and circumstances:

(1) judicial proceedings
(2) legislative proceedings
(3) some executive statements and publications
(4) publications between spouses
(5) publications required by law

Conditional Privileges

Other privileges do not arise as a result of the person making the communication, but rather arise from the particular occasion during which the statement was made. These privileges are known as conditional, or qualified, privileges. A defendant is not entitled to a conditional privilege without proving that the defendant meets the conditions established for the privilege. Generally, in order for a privilege to apply, the defendant must believe that a statement is true and, depending on the jurisdiction, either have reasonable grounds for believing that the statement was true or not have acted recklessly in ascertaining the truth or falsity of the statement.

Conditional privileges apply to the following types of communications:

* A statement that is made for the protection of the publisher's interest
* A statement that is made for the protection of the interests of a third person
* A statement that is made for the protection of common interest
* A statement that is made to ensure the well-being of a family member
* A statement that is made where the person making the communication believes that the public interest requires communication of the statement to a public officer or other official
* A statement that is made by an inferior state officer who is not entitled to an absolute privilege
1 hr 2 mins ago by petshack +1 Votes

Lista you are nothing more then a butt whiper & change bed pans as a nurses aid ..lmao want me to post lic#
59 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

What is ‘defamation’?

Defamation, sometimes called "defamation of character", is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation.

If a person or the news media says or writes something about you that is understood to lower your reputation, or that keeps people from associating with you, defamation has occurred. Slander and libel are two forms of defamation.

Articles on Internet SlanderArticles on SlanderNet Slander Blog Community Net Blogging
What is ‘slander’?

Slander is a spoken defamation.
What is ‘libel’?

Libel is a written defamation. Generally, radio and television broadcasts that are defamatory are considered to be libel, rather than slander.
Can I sue someone who says or writes something defamatory about me?

In order to prove defamation, you have to be able to prove that what was said or written about you was false. If the information is true, or if you consented to publication of the material, you will not have a case. However, you may bring an defamatory action if the comments are so reprehensible and false that they effect your reputation in the community or cast aspersions on you.
What about insults and epithets? Are they defamatory?

Generally, no. Usually they are seen as outbursts of emotion, with no real substance, except to show intense dislike.
Don't I have a right to express my opinion?

Yes, so long as your statement of opinion is just an opinion, not containing specific facts that can be proved untrue.

Are there defenses to defamation?

Establishing the truth is the single most effective defense that can be offered. If the remark is truthful and it "hurts", is embarrassing, or subjects you to ridicule, there is little you can do. Unfortunately, unless the remark is false, you have no recourse.
What are the defenses to a libel claim?

There are three main defenses to a libel claim (other than asserting that it never happened or that you were never involved):

The first is claiming, and proving, that the statement was privileged (and thus not public). Only certain professions (doctors, lawyers, psychologists), or individuals (chiefly your spouse) can maintain that privilege; and if any non-privileged third party was part of the communication, the privilege is broken. (Employees of a professional are only partially covered, to the extent that you needed to use them to contact the professional. Don't expect to tell your deepest, darkest secret to your attorney's secretary, and maintain that privilege.)

The second defense is claiming, and proving, that the statement is true, for "truth is an absolute defense".

The third defense is claiming, and proving, that the statement was an opinion, not an assertion of a fact. Since this last defense is only as good as the weakest or worst, but still reasonable, misinterpretation, it's not one you really want to rely on. There's a world of difference between saying "I think he's a crook, " and "he's a crook". Especially if a third party might inadvertently leave out the first two words when passing your message on.
What damages are available for slander or libel?

If you have been defamed you may seek both actual damages, to recover the harm that you have suffered, and punitive damages to punish the person who made the remark (and serve as an example to deter others).

If the defamation improperly accused you of a crime or reflected on your profession, the Court or jury can assess the damages. For other types of defamation you must prove some actual damage to be able to recover.
Voice Message Broadcasting - Bulk voice mail deliveries to answering machines and interactive voice response (ivr) to live answers, drive sales, branding, web site traffic via our automated voice broadcasting system or auto dialer.

Internet Law Today - The new site to find all your need to know about current laws on the internet. Internet Law is a fascinating area of the law which is constantly changing everyday.

Covert Spy Shop for the best in Cheap Spy Gear and Equipment found anywhere on the world wide web.

Key Vip Las Vegas NV, the number VIP Service Company in Sin City. Call KEY VIP, for VIP treatment at all clubs and entertainment facilities.

I'm writing a book about the very small town I grew up in and changing the names of the people involved. Can I be sued for slander?

If it's the truth, no. Also, if you place a "disclaimer" at the beginning that the people and events have been changed to protect the innocent, and that any similarities to actual persons, either living or dead, are merely coincidental, then no. Remember, you have the First Amendment, which gives you freedom of speech.
57 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants +1 Votes

Pay attention to the opening statement of this article, Lista!

Internet Defamation Law
Internet Defamation is a very exciting and developing area of law. An Internet defamation lawyer with our firm frequently handles issues related to Internet defamation law. Some of the old defamation laws are now applied to the Internet. Some common topics and questions about Internet defamation law include.

What is Internet defamation?

Defamation is a false statement of material fact that damages the reputation of the target. Internet Defamation presents a dilemma to courts who have to balance the damage to the reputation of one person against the Internet free speech rights of another.

Under basic defamation law principles, there are two types of defamation, libel and slander. Libel is a published defamatory statement. Under traditional defamation law principles, slander is spoken statements. With the advent of the Internet, the terms Internet defamation, Internet libel, and Internet slander are used interchangeably . However, in the true sense of the word, slander only applies to spoken statements and therefore there is no such thing as Internet slander. The terms is nonetheless used to refer to Internet defamation.

The following are types of Internet Defamation:

* Statements that are defamatory on their face - Under Internet defamation law principles, these statements are obviously defamatory. This type of Internet defamation usually results in the largest awards in online defamation litigation.

* Internet defamation through false innuendo - Individuals possessing necessary contextual knowledge can appreciate the defamatory nature of the statement.

* Internet defamation through legal innuendo - These statements are not defamatory on their face, but is defamatory when viewed with extrinsic information.

What are some defenses to accusations of Internet defamation?

Truth - A statement that is true cannot be defamatory. However, some States recognize other torts, such as false light invasion of privacy. In this case, truth is not a defense.

Opinion - Only statement of facts can be defamatory, opinions are not. However, if you are a victim of Internet defamation and the post, blog entry, or forum article contains the qualification "in my opinion, " you may still pursue your Internet defamation claim. Disguising a defamatory statement as an opinion does not make it such.

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act - Sections 230(c)(1) and 230(e)(3) provide that "no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider, " and that "[n]o cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section." However, there are several limitations and exceptions to this rule. It is interesting how many operators of Internet sites attempt to find their unwarranted solace behind this law when many times, given the specific design or operation of their website, the immunity provision may not apply.

Additional discussion regarding Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act may be found on Domingo Rivera's Blog. Some articles regarding this issue include:

* The CDA, cyber-racketeers, the DMCA, and changes to Section 230 by Domingo Rivera
* Internet Bloggers Beware: Ohio Court Lands Another Blow Against Those Engaging in Internet Defamation
* Internet Defamation Law - Website owners and bloggers beware - The latest interpretation of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act

For a statement posted on the Internet to be defamatory, it must be a statement of fact, by definition opinions posted on the Internet cannot be defamatory. Also some service providers are immune under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Contact us to discuss specific issues and circumstances.
When you need your online reputation protected from Internet defamation, an Internet Defamation Lawyer, Cyber defamation law attorney, Internet Libel Law practitioner, and Cyber slander law attorney from our firm is an Internet defamation law counsel. An Internet defamation lawyer with our practice possesses qualifications to handle Internet defamation matters.

19 hrs 37 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants 0 Votes

The pic of the pig and the dog is insulting, but not beneath someone like LISTA LUCY FAIRCLOTH, THAT'S HER PICTURE BELOW! No, you aren't seeing things. She IS dressed up like Lucille Ball. And she isn't going to a costume party. SHE LOOKS LIKE THAT EVERY DAY! She thinks she IS LUCILLE BALL! Even her DOG is named Lucy! This is the SockPuppet Queen who is posting most of the rubbish you see above. Don't know what a Sockpuppet is? A Sockpuppet is a false identity someone uses on the web to conceal who he or she really is. A Troll, goes from forum to forum, just to pick fights. Doesn't matter with who. Trolls are also people who go to websites to talk trash for their friends. By the way, THAT'S CALLED FLAMING! Lista Faircloth has been bad mouthing a friend of mine for some time now, on Facebook, and elsewhere. Her friends have even tried to draw me into it because I said something in my friend's defense. They tried the same shennanigans you're all seeing her, except that I'm NOT Nancy White, and I wouldn't tolerate it. I blocked them, sent copies of their offensive posts to Facebook (who would do nothing, of course), but also to THEIR local authorities. All I needed to do was run their IP numbers, and trace them back to their state and city. Easy. Took all of ten minutes for the lot of them. Each set of IP numbers is totally unique to each and every person. No two people have ever been given the same numbers. Also, there is NO Internet Service Provider with the same numbers. As for you Lista, and I don't care what Sockpuppets you're using today, you need to be aware that you are pushing this into a very dangerous and quite probably, very costly affair. Even though you use a number of different computers to post this stuff, which by the way is actually LIBEL, CHARACTER DEFAMATION, AND SLANDER both things you can be sued for, even though you are using different computers, each post you make is given a unique Date/Time/Location stamp. Each of the computers you used had it's own unique set of IP numbers. Those are the identifying numbers issued to your Internet Service Provider, plus the unique numbers that same provider issues to each account holder. AOL, Earthlink, MSN, your cable company, etc., each as it's own set of numbers that no one else has. It can tell a lawyer, or anyone else looking to track you down, EXACTLY who provides you with internet access, and identify YOU as the owner of the numbers your provider assigned to YOU. It's like ethernet fingerprinting. Cool, huh? Another thing you need to worry about is using those computers in the Courthouse to send this stuff out. Phew! Now that's serious business there! Those Courthouse computers are GOVERNMENT PROPERTY, and misusing them is a CRIME! Even worse, Dear Lista, the Courthouse Computers are ALL on a NETWORK, all attached to one another! Those computers are attached to their own servers, with massive storage capabilities. EACH AND EVERY KEYSTROKE IS RECORDED AND STORE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. Didn't know that, did 'ya? That's right every key you tapped, every click of the mouse, every photo, or bit of data attached to your messages were recorded and stored. If a lawyer, if Nancy decided to sue you, something I've repeatedly advised her to do, it would take that lawyer only a few moments to pull up, every message you sent, including the precise date and time sent. That's pretty damning evidence. Also there were also mot likely cameras recording the people using those computers as well. Government offices have cameras everywhere. They have to! As for those other computers you've used, you know, friend's computers, computers at work, library computers...they also have identifying numbers. The public library and computers at a worksite are ALWAYS monitored, and transmissions and receptions are recorded for safety. What if you had a serial killer working for you, or maybe a terrorist? Keeping records of all computer usage is a necessary tool in this modern times. And I DO hope you haven't used your own or someone else's IPhone or Blackberry. Heck, those transmissions are nothing more than radio broadcasts, and can be pulled right out of the air with little or no effort at all. The provider services for these devices MUST keep careful records of every message, text, or voice call transmitted. You've got yourself into quite a mess, you see. Every word, of every message you send can be traced right back to you. No one is annoymous on the internet...or anywhere else really. Hooray for the information age! So sorry for Lista Lucy Faircloth! By the way, your post above this one, using the troll name gofurself, is so blatanty obvious. By denying that you know yourself, you point the finger right in your own direction. The FIRST thing any criminal, or anyone else who gets caught in the act, always responds with "Who? I never heard of XYZ! But the remark afterwards, all in caps, you know, the way you type when you're feeling frustrated because things are going your way, clearly identifies you. EVERYONE HAS A STYLE, Lista, a certain way of speaking or writing, and it can't be concealed. Not even a trained actor can do it. And the problem of writing "voice", or writing style has spelled the end for many spies, as well. Your own unique voice comes through with every message you type. Now matter how hard you try to sound like someone else, and really Lista, you DON'T try very hard, you always end up announcing just who you really are. You learn things, when you're working in the legal profession, you know. So, now I hear you are planning to make a one hundred percent, solid gold [censored] of yourself on the "Judge Judy Show". That's all it really is, you know, a SHOW. The program is for entertainment purposes only, and neither Nancy nor Farrah are going to loose more than a few dollars, IF THEY LOSE THE CASE. No one is going to jail. No one is going to be charged with anything, and no one wins or loses. Except the sponsors, of course, and the audience that is going to get one hell of laugh from the entire situation. Damn, aren't the owners of those snooty little dogs a ridiculous buncha loonies? is what everyone watching is going to be thinking. The majority or dog owners in the US consider Chihuahuas overpriced RATS! USELESS TOYS OF RICH WOMEN! In the US we love BIG dogs, Rotweillers ( you know about Rotweiller's don't you, Lista, I mean you DO remember that Rotweiller you HAD PUT TO DEATH, just to keep Nancy from rescuing it!), Dobermans, Labs, Golden Retrievers. THOSE are the popular dogs in the good old USA! Yep, I's say your appearance on Judge Judy is going to be one hell of a show! I know I'm going to record it on my DVR! Better make sure you have COMPLETE AND ACCURATE DOCUMENTATION TO BACK UP EVERY WORD YOU SAY, Lista. Judy DOES know her law. And she CAN spot a Cuckoo like YOU any day of the week. Just start in about the dog you say Nancy bred, but was actually bred by someone else! NANCY Has the papers to prove who DID BREED LIL BELLA LUCY! She also has your signature indicating you KNEW who the breeder was, but wanted the dog anyway. Nancy DID offer to replace the dog, even after you CALLED HER AND TOLD HER YOU HAD DROPPED HER! And make sure Judge Judy knows about how many kids you have. Maybe those kids dropped her a time or two? Or maybe stepped on her...I had a couple of kids, I know who rough they play sometimes. AND I ALSO KNOW YOU DON'T BRING A CHIHUAHUA INTO A HOME WITH SMALL CHILDREN! By the way, there's nothing wrong with small breeders. They produce far healthier and better adjusted dogs than people with larger kennels. Funny, you DON'T seem to have a problem with the DOZENS OF OTHER BREEDERS YOU CHIT CHAT WITH ON FACEBOOK! Just Nancy, and now Farrah because she took Nancy's side in this little war of yours. I am Facebook friends with quite a few of those BREEDER FRIENDS of yours, so I do get snippets of YOUR conversations with them. Facebook publishes everything that's exchanged between friends, and FRIENDS OF FRIENDS on down the line. Remember, owner Mark Zuckerberg loves a good laugh, and he likes to print out conversations of people bickering back and forth, and share them with his friends at all those millionaire parties. Makes him feel superior, I guess. I've read a lot of what you've said on F acebook and had quite a few laughs. What DOES raise my hackles though is this constant BS claiming that Nancy's house is dirty, and YOURS IS SO SPOTLESS! Can you people get any more arrogant or ignorant? What right have ANY of you got to call another person's house dirty, then go about sharing CERTAIN photos, that SEEM to back up your insults with everyone and anyone. Those of you who have children and pets and certainly NOT claim your homes are pristine and spotless! Both kids and dogs are dirty. I've had them both. They'll wreck it as fast as you clean it, and THAT is the truth. Unless of course, you are all so filthy rich you can employ maids to pick up after your kids and your dogs, or cats, or birds. I've been in Nancy White's house, a number of times, and not always expectedly. No matter when I've been there, I have NOT seen a single thing to even think about calling it dirty! Yeah, it's a bit cluttered. She Does live in a place above her shop, so her space is limited. She has a lot of dogs. NO KIDDING! SHE IS A DOG BREEDER! If a breeder doesn't have a LOT of dogs, the dogs can end up being INBRED! All of Nancy's dogs and puppies, the ones I've personally seen, were very friendly, had beautiful, clean coats (no bite marks from fighting for their food, Lista!), bright eyes, and wonderful personalities. Yeah, she had a cage or two, but the cages were FOR THE PROTECTION AND WELL BEING OF SICK OR RESCUED DOGS. You do NOT allow a sick dog, or a rescue animal to mingle with your others. The sick one because it's too weak, the rescues because you mus be sure they are disease free before letting them join the others. THOSE are the ONLY cages Nancy has! Period! Anyone who tell you different is a liar! Nancy's dogs are all kept in separate quarters. The males in one area, the female in another, to prevent unwanted, uncontrolled breeding. Nancy's Rotweillers interact very well with her Chis, but all the same, she never allows them to hang out together without supervision. Her exotic birds, are kept mainly in cages. Doh! Who want's bird's pooping everywhere, and large birds can be destructive and chew things. My Cockatiels have chewed up a lot of things when they were out for exercise, believe me. By the way, Lista, even Chihuahuas in SMALL groups, INCLUDING LITTER MATES, will squabble over food! I have three young pups, Chihuahuas, and even though they love each other at other times, running and playing together and sharing toys, they FIGHT AT MEAL TIME. Face it! Chihuahuas are a hot tempered species. They also tend to want their own way about everything. All of my pups and adults get equal servings of food I prepare for them. No commercial garbage for my dogs. There is road kill and dead, euthanized pets in that crap! All the same, my dogs, growl, and bite, and occasionally attack one another at meal time. It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF DOGS. Only in temperament. My pups came from a gentle, adorable little sire, but Momma was and is strictly AGRO. She's spoiled rotten, and Queen of the House, and KNOWS it! She my husband's little girl, and demonstrates a LOT of his traits, especially his temper. The babies all ended up with Momma's temperament, and noting from Daddy that I've seen so far. All of this clap trap you've been spreading, Lista, is WRONG and you know it. Problem is, you don't know when to quit and start acting like an adult. Just because you have the deluded idea that you look like Lucille Ball - Trust me. I've circulated your pictures. Everyone agrees. You look nothing like her, no matter how much make up you slap on! You may THINK you look like Lucy. You may dress like some addle-headed woman from the 1950s, and strike poses to imitate her, but that doesn't make it so. YOU ARE NOT LUCILLE BALL! YOU DO NOT REMOTELY LOOK LIKE HER. THIS IS NOT THE 1950s, AND YOUR HUSBAND ISN'T CUBAN BANDLEADER NAMED DESI! You are Lista FAircloth, of Florida. Nothing more, and nothing less. You spend a dangerous amount of time watching old black and white reruns, and playing I Love Lucy dress up. Does your life suck so bad that you need to immerse yourself in this Lucy fantasy? Who in the hell told you you resembled Lucille Ball in the first place? Yikes! Get yourself some therapy woman, before to fall ALL THE WAY off your rocker! Get your hair styled. Let it return to it's natural color, and buy some new clothes. Trust me, your kids will thank you for it. I mean, have you ever thought about your kids. I bet they're all laughing stocks in school! I know that I would be ashamed to have a mother that looks and dresses like YOU do! Stop annoying other people. If you have a legitimate case against Nancy, and can PROVE IT WITH DOCUMENTATION AND WITNESSES, then sue. If not, and this is just something that boiling on the back burner in your head, dump it. I assure you, Nancy DOES HAVE PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE EVERYTHING SHE SAYS, AND MANY, MANY, MANY SATISFIED, HAPPY CUSTOMERS! She has many friends who will stand by her. WILL YOUR FRIENDS STAND BY YOU IN A COURT OF LAW, OR WILL THEY RUN FOR COVER TO PROTECT THEIR OWN ###. You'd be wise to expect the latter. No one will stick his or her neck out, unless they are a hundred percent sure of the outcome! It's one thing to talk trash on the internet, and another to face a judge in a court of law. This is a case you cannot win.

17 hrs 20 mins ago by cookiecocoaandpants 0 Votes

Hey Lista, Don't try to pull your wounded DIVA act on me, it doesn't work! And anyone who behaves like you do is CERTAINLY NOT A CELEBRITY! What you ARE is a fat head who thinks far too highly of yourself. If yous are so famous, and everyone in the world loves you, then how come no one that I know has ever heard of you. As a writer, I've had many contacts with stage, and television producers, as well as script editors. I called some of them. THEY have never heard of you either! They had a good giggle when I faxed them your photos! I don't care if you pile on a ton of make up, and wear the ugliest, frumpy clothes you can find, you will NEVER RESEMBLE LUCILLE BALL! NOT WITH THAT FLAT TIP ON THE END OF YOUR NOSE, LADY! By the way, I DID NOT COMPLIMENT YOUR WARDROBE. I called it what was, COSTUMES! COSTUMES THAT MADE YOU LOOK LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF THE 40S AND 50S! It certainly doesn't look good! And you look worse and ridiculous wearing it. Another wake up call for you, Lucille BAll may have had a lot of fans around the world, but for every one who liked her there were THREE who didn't! No one is ever loved by everyone! My husband hated her! Hated Desi Arnaz, too, he was a drunk and a womanizer who was never faithful to Lucy or anyone else. She, in turn, had a number of lovers on the side as well. She was far from being the saint you are trying to make out she was. She is also VERY, VERY DEAD, and has been for some time. Nothing that YOU do will resurrect her! Did you say your husband was Cuban? Funny, I've never in my life heard of a Cuban named Faircloth! An ENGLISHMAN, yes, but not a Cuban. Do try to stop making things up!

And now, let me warn you, Before you go accusing ME of anything you had damn well get your facts straight, and have them legally documented. It might be a good idea to have a couple of witnesses, too! MY ATTORNEY'S DO NOT PLAY GAMES! I DID NOT NOW, OR AT ANY TIME, HIRE SOMEONE OR ASK SOMEONE TO SPY ON YOU! I DO NOT KNOW YOU OR DESIRE TO KNOW YOU, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN NEAR YOU, YOUR FAMILY OR PLACE OF RESIDENCE! ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE ABOUT YOU IS EASILY, AND LEGALLY AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET! IN SHORT, PUBLIC INFORMATION. Before you accuse me of spying on you, or hiring someone, you better make sure you can prove it! Unlike Nancy, I DON"T make a habit of warning anyone before I file a suit. They'll find out when the summons is served. Those ridiculous photos I've posted of you? They came from Facebook. A couple of them popped up on my message stream, or on my wall, as the regulars choose to call it, so I popped on over to your profile page and had a look around. That's also perfectly legal, my dear! I can see you've learned a bit of computer lingo, and a few stupid, college texts like ROTFLMAO. Good for you! I had no idea you had enough space in your head for that much info. Tell ya what tho, I am a writer, by trade, made a pretty good living at it, and I've been around the internet since it's inception. I can still remember typing out lines and lines of tedious DOS code just to get one or two commands to work! But, if you want to get into a war of lingo, don't try it with someone who has ten times the vocabulary that you do. You are a circle-thinker, and keep coming back to the same tired subjects. You yell, and scream, and stamp your feet, but you just can't seem to get your way, can you. How many times did you type LOL, LMAO, etc? Must've been ten, maybe fifteen times, including a He, he. Made you sound like a laughing idiot. So you drive around in SEVERAL MERCEDES (that is legally verifiable, by checking with DMV, you know) well, la di dah and woop ti doo! Does that make YOU any better than anyone else? Hardly. Osama bin Laden is DRIVEN around in several chauffered ROLLS ROYCE limosines, but we all know how the world feels about HIM! No one cares if that mini van was given to you, or thrown at you. Having it STILL doesn't make you into anything resembling a celebrity! By the way, before you start calling ME a liar, make Damn sure you can prove THAT as well! All of your loony ranting and raving and self-important bragging about how famous you are and how much people love you, doesn't impress me one iota. Now, Time for a warning, and a reality check. I have read the Terms Of Use for this board. I read everything before I sign it. Obviously you, and your spamming friend oktamus have never bothered to read the contract before you signed it. It plainly says that SPAMMING and PROFANITY are strictly prohibited! And you can be BANNED from this board for doing so without warning. The terms also state that disrupting ANY board is cause for termination. Well, I have sent full complaints to both the owners and sponsors of this site, complete with a copy and paste of oktamus ENTIRE FILTHY POST, making sure I highlight each and every filthy, dirty word he used. I also included YOUR POST, Lista, inciting him to make the post, and I quote, SPAM ATTACK! LET THEM HAVE IT OKTAMUS! Don't try to lie out of THAT one MY dear, it is spelled out in black and white, and in plain site on this board where ANYONE can read it. I've also printed it out, so if you try to delete it, there's STILL documented proof that YOU ARE INCITING SPAM ATTACKS TO DISRUPT THIS FORUM WHEN THINGS DON'T GO YOUR WAY! Why don't you get out one of lacy Lucy hankies and start sobbing now, before you get kicked off this forum, and You ARE GOING TO GET KICKED OFF! No matter how highly you think of yourself, on the internet you are just another trouble maker, a troll that goes from forum to forum disrupting conversations to get attention and the owners of this site don't care didley squat WHO you THINK you look like! Break the rules, off you go! That's it! And see Ya later, fruitcake! BY the way, I've copied your above attempt to incite oktamus to disrupt this site, once again, and I'll be passing THAT along to the owners and sponsors as well. Before you try to play dirty, learn the rules. You CAN NOT just go onto ANY forum and post things you cannot prove, as you claimed above. It is certainly NOT LEGAL! All INTERNET FORUMS HAVE TERMS OF SERVICE RULES. You must agree to them before you join. Violate those rules and your account is not only terminated, but EVERYTHING you posted is deleted as well. In this day and age, when the internet, and forums like this are taking flack from a hundred directions, NO site owner or webmaster is going to let some one like you or your buddy oktamus get his site shut down by spamming and running page after page of filthy text. By the way, they have rules against dirty pictures, too...remember the pic of the pig and the dog. Against the rules, baby! Oktamus filthy spam DIDN'T shut the site down, by the way, I posted after him, and immediately reported the both of you for TOS violations and profanity. You just can't go around spitting out filth on these boards, you know. Oh, and don't try to hack into MY Facebook account. Only an idiot would use his own name on boards like this. Used a fake name to register as well, and a disposable email addy. You aren't the only one who can make up sockpuppets, hun! It's sad, and in a small way I feel sorry for you. When some one has to go to such extremes to gain attention, their lives must really suck. When someone spends so much time, and wastes so much effort, just to paint a picture of famous she is, or much she is loved and supported, that tells me, how desperate for affection she really is. There are doctors and therapy groups that can help you. All have to do is ask. Things will look a lot better when you stop playing dress up, and face the fact you're plain old Lista Faircloth, and no one else.

one last thing Lista ;

this is from other thread ;
voicefortheanimals, 13 hrs 47 mins ago
You are the only lonely people on here Farrah and Petshack! Learn how to spell too! Now that you know it is "Freedom of Speech" Duh then you know I can say what I want about a BAD BUSINESS deal I had with you! You are a Back Yard Breeder and Everyone will know it soon! It is spreading Fast on th einternet I see. You both are making it so bad on yourselves!

Really Lista, you are a "so called "business women ... I beg the differ you do not own a business.. you my friend are a Nurse asst. You wipe butts & empty bed pans... and before that you where a nail tech! These are just a few lies That I will post & show others.

What I will prove is that
You my friend bought a Puppy that was in my shop that you knew my friend ***** bred ... and you talked to him I just happen to give you my guarantee as I stand behind my word unlike you, you never sent the clothes or the money for them that was owed. { don't forget I have it in emails, text & IM's and have copies of all} I wanted to see vet records and my vet has waited.. hmm what 11 months now and still has not got them. So if you puppy that you bought from my shop is what you say then prove it! As the 1st picture is the puppy you bought from my shop{ she sure does look happy & healthy playing } not the one in 2nd picture as you claim { PS head shapes & ears do not change, color sometimes yes}

MY remarks are not FALSE! So this is why you have No recourse!.. Thats a joke!

this does not scare me and if you look at my web page ALL my photos including the ones on FB are copyright also. And you Lista took 22 of them and made you own comments on them. Do you really think you are above the law? Is hacking legal ? My Yahoo account was down for 3 weeks due to hacking, and funny during this time you called Farrah telling her you did. I also got letter today from "myspace" saying someone was trying to hack that account also. Let me find out this is you also, Im waiting I have wrote for IP address from whom is trying to hack it. I will find this out trust me.

Thank you Nancy. It just seemed that you were totally ignoring what I had to say in my first post on this board. There is always two sides to a story and I wanted to hear yours. I apologize if I came down a little harsh on you. As I stated early on in my second post, I am not here to judge anybody by any means. Especially what I do for a living, I'm in no position to do so.

What I'm trying to accomplish with everything that I'm saying here, is that you and Lista have to stop with all this negative clucking back and forth. It gets everybody involved absolutely nowhere! Especially the puppies and dogs! My opinions on breeding, and let me reiterate "opinions" on breeding dogs (and cats) will never change as long as millions upon millions of animals are dying every year in animal shelters across the nation. I'm pretty sure I do not stand alone on this, and many others out there share in my same opinions as well on this matter. I was also wondering if you implement any sort of control over the buyers of your puppies, discouraging them not to breed these dogs, but instead having them spayed and neutered once they're old enough?

That brings me back to my original beef, why do you breed your dogs then if it isn't for the money? I know it's not for you to generate grooming business, because Chihuahuas and Dachshunds do not require much grooming if any, other than the very basic bath from time to time and nail trimmings. Dental cleanings are obviously done by a veterinarian or a trained individual who specializes in non-anesthetic dentals. Also having the knowledge on the tragic pet overpopulation in our animal shelters, not to mention all the families who go through rescues in hopes to have their beloved pet re-homed due to financial hardship through these hard economic times. So why? I'm completely mind boggled! You rescue and you breed, that to me is an oxymoron in which it contradicts itself! I just don't see the point if you're rescuing than why breed? You're not helping matters any if you participate in the latter of the two.

As far as what I do for a living, which should not matter and does not matter when it comes to the well being of animals and animal rights. I am a prostitute! A profession that has been around long before individuals were breeding dogs for profit! I also help in the rescuing of Greyhound dogs from race tracks. I don't plan to remain in the business of selling sex for money, but for now it's what I choose to do to get by. All I know is at the end of the day when I lay down to fall asleep, I am ok with myself and what I do, because I'm not ripping anybody off and most importantly I'm not involved in any way or somehow responsible for the premature deaths in the millions of innocent dogs (and cats) that are living in animal shelters everyday! As far as those pearly gates I mentioned at the end of my second post, here it is. If I'm sent the other way because of what I do for a living, than oh well. I'll be dead! Will I even care? No! I'm alive on this earth right now, and it's right now that matters!

What a cute picture JDH55, love it! Wouldn't that be hilarious if dogs actually had real hair like that with their ears barely poking out on the top? Think of the hair styles we as owners would try to pull off! Our pets would hate us. Lmfao . . . .

puppy mills & bybs SUCK! i find it funny, she says she rescues, and when she does, and gets a pure breed female that is not spayed, she breeds the dog, to make money off the pups.How sad it that.

stupidassbybs666 where in the hell did you read that? This is how ### gets turned around from ###s like yourself.

I will say this once again, and I'm sure alot of people will agree, if you check out these breeders sites, you will see, they are exactly what everyone is saying about them.They do not show these dogs, nor do they try to better the breed, they are, in it for the money, and that is all.SAVE A DOG AND ADOPT DO NOT BUY. http://pdfcast.org/pdf/robert-chris-taylor

I'M A DOG BREEDER!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In today's world, if you use these words, people look at you like you're a harlot. Even some of our own peers call us names like "puppy mill" or "backyard breeder". If we reply that we are a "hobby breeder, " someone immediately asks how we can consider living creatures a hobby. Some of us try the word "fancier". We fool no one. The most pathetic response to the question is when we call ourselves "responsible breeders." Responsible to whom? Who defines "responsible" and "irresponsible?" Some bureaucrat? A politician? Animal rights cretins who say there is no such thing as a responsible breeder? Animal rights fanatics would rather kill all animals than see someone love them. In fact, that's their plan. If we say we are not breeders, it makes us "pet hoarders." We are tarred as mentally ill people in need of psychotherapy.
The entire language about dog ownership has been hijacked by the rhetoric of the animal rights movement. The worst part is that we have allowed it to happen. We have people in our midst that embrace this movement and try to beat everyone else down by trying to make us ashamed of the role we play. You know the ones I'm talking about. You see them on different "lists" and "forums" always beating people up and putting them down for their efforts to breed that always elusive "perfect specimen". Their favorite slams are "How many dogs do you have?" or "How many litters do you produce a year?". They boast of only breeding one litter "just to have something to show" and "every puppy in the litter finished their championship". But then you find that these "perfect specimens" they produced had to be shown by politically correct professional handlers to very political Judges to accumulate those championship points. And you see these "Champions" skipping around the ring on three legs or hopping like bunny rabbits because their hips and legs can't carry them. This is NOT dog breeding, folks.
I am sick and tired of watching dog owners constantly apologize for who we are and what we do. Let me state clearly and for the record: I am a dog breeder. I breed dogs. I raise puppies. I like it. I'm very proud of it. And if you don't like it, you are free to take a flying leap. I don't care what you think of me or what I do. I raise Chihuahuas! I breed several litters a year. I wish I could raise more puppies, but can't figure out how to do it without driving myself into bankruptcy. My dogs work for a living, just like I do. They have to be good at their jobs, just like I do. If they aren't good at their jobs, I don't keep them and I certainly don't breed them. They are show dogs, and they have to be able to perform to a very demanding standard of excellence to be worthy of breeding. They have to meet the exacting standard of championship quality performance in the toughest competition. They acquire their wins on their own merit by owner/handlers while pitted against professional handlers and political judges. They are professional athletes. Most of them do not make the cut. Those dogs make wonderful companions or family members.
I have never had a dog spayed or neutered, except for medical reasons, and I don't intend to start now. If a dog is good enough for me to keep, it is good enough to breed. Nor have I ever sold a puppy on a spay/neuter contract. With performance dogs, it takes at least 2 years to know what you have. There is no way that anyone can know the full potential or worthiness of a young puppy. I hope every puppy that I sell will become a great one that is worthy of being bred. On occasion, I have a puppy that has a serious flaw. I don't sell those puppies, even though they would make many people very happy. I give them away free to good homes, and the definition of a good home is mine because it's my puppy. I own it. You don't. My responsibility is to the puppy. It is not to you and it's not to some breed club or gelatinous glob called "society". I consider myself to be personally responsible for every puppy I raise, from birth until the day it dies. It always has a home in my kennel, if it's new owner can't keep it or no longer wants it. That's a contract written in blood between the puppy and me. It's mine! I made it!
By now I assume I've pushed all of the buttons of the animal rights crazies and the e-mail lists slashers. They are calling me an exploiter of animals. They are saying that I ruthlessly cull and manipulate the genetics of my dogs. They say that I make the exploited poor beasts work for a living and live up to impossible standards. They say that I sell them for money and exploit them for personal gain. I PLEAD "GUILTY" TO ALL OF THE CHARGES. KNOW WHAT ELSE? I DON'T FEEL GUILTY, NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. I DO IT. I LIKE IT. I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Now I will speak in my own defense-- as a dog breeder. I happen to love dogs. I love being around them. I love working with them. I love watching a puppy grow up and discover its potential. I love having the privilege of experiencing a truly great dog in it's prime. I love sharing supper with my dogs, wrestling with puppies, and sacking out with them on the couch. I lose sleep when they get sick, and work myself unmercifully to care for them. I spend almost all the money I have on them, and some money I don't have. My heart breaks when they grow old and die. I have a dozen lifetimes worth of beautiful memories. My life is filled with love and joy and beauty, and I owe most of it to my dogs. They have helped to keep me sane when sanity was not a given. They have given me courage on the days when all I wanted to do was die down and quit. They have given me strength to endure on the days when all I wanted to do was run away and hide. I owe them my life. The animal rights folk are right. I ruthlessly cull and manipulate genetics. To make the cut, my breeding dogs have had to live up to the most exacting possible standards and pass the most strenuous tests. I am proud of doing that!The result is that the vast majority of people who buy a puppy from me love it. When I sell a puppy, chances are that it has found a home for the rest of its life. The puppy will have a great chance of leading a wonderful life. I produce puppies that make people happy to own them and want to keep them. That's my job as a breeder. I have done this through rigorous selection. My puppies today are the result of 25 years of my stubborn insistence about never breeding a dog that does not have a wonderful disposition, perfect conformation, great intelligence, exceptional natural ability, breathtaking style and that mysterious ingredient called genius. Every puppy born in my kennel has several generations of my own dogs in its pedigree. All of those ancestors possess a high level of each of those desirable traits. I have raised, trained and grown old with every dog listed in several generations of each puppy's pedigree. Simply put, my puppies today are a lot nicer than my puppies of 25 years ago. Today, there is a much higher percentage of good ones, a much lower percentage of deficient ones, a much higher average of good qualities, and a much higher percentage of true greatness emerging from my kennel today. That's what it means to be a dog breeder. It makes for happier dogs. It makes for dogs that lead better lives, find permanent families and homes, and get to experience love in many forms.
Yes, I am very proud of being a breeder. I did that. They make me smile a lot. I think I make them smile, too. But there's always those whackos that say I am doing it for the money... They accuse me of exploiting animals for profit. YES Every chance I get. I am very happy when I am able to sell a puppy for cold, hard cash. It makes me feel good because it shows me that someone appreciates the work I am doing.
It makes me feel good because I have earned it and earned it honestly. My only regret is that I have not made more money as a breeder. With all of the sacrifices I have made and the hard work, I should be rolling in money. Alas, I am not. It has been a long time since I actually made money on a litter of puppies. Usually, I barely break even. For every puppy I sell, there is another that I keep to evaluate, and a couple of other ones that I am keeping for at least a couple of years to evaluate for worthiness to breed. Then there are dogs in competition, and that costs bushels of money, not to mention old dogs that are retired and have a home here until they die of old age. Nearly half of my kennel are old dogs that are elderly and retired, and it takes a lot of money to care for them. And it takes money for dog food, supplies, veterinary bills, kennel repairs, vehicle use for transporting to and from shows, advertising, internet, phone bills, and four pairs of good boots a year. It takes money. Lots of money. Bundles of money. Oh, Lord, please help me to sell some more puppies! Besides, what's wrong with making money? It is a rather fundamental American value. Making money is something to be proud of, as long as it's done honestly.
It's time for every dog owner and breeder to stand up proudly and be counted. Each one of you has done far more to enhance the quality of life of both people and dogs than all these other animal rights activists and forum/e-mail list slashers put together. So stand up and shout it to the rooftops!

I'M A DOG BREEDER! I'M PROUD OF IT AND I'M GOOD AT IT!

So, why are back yard breeders a problem? Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. They may have a sweet pet they want to try and reproduce or they think that their dogs are quality because they have papers and/or are registered with some registry. They think maybe they can make a few dollars selling pups, etc. They just put out dogs without real consideration for the future of not only the breed but the puppies produced.

Often, BYBs breed dogs with faults. This perpetuates fault and problems in the breed. They do nothing to prove their dogs are of sound temperament and that they are breeding good representatives of the breed, etc. They just breed. And often, they do not even breed purebreds. Some BYBs "create" neat sounding things and think they are breeds - like Dalimers. This was seen listed in the Washington Post as a rare, German breed. Well, they are mutts - crosses of Dalmatians and Weimeraners, nothing more than a back yarder trying to make a buck

But many people who show and breed dogs do so from their homes? How do you know is a breeder is good or not? Through EDUCATION and ASKING questions. These questions will help you out:

"Sadly, not all people professing to be reputable and responsible breeders are. A good breeder will all but interrogate you. You should also have the chance to question the breeder. If you are not sure or uneasy with an answer, do not hesitate to ask for an explanation. If at any time you get an uneasy feeling or just are not satisfied, look elsewhere. A few things to ask about are:

1. What is the asking price of the puppies? Some breeders will ask the same for pet quality and show potential puppies. Compare prices with other breeders of the same breed and if the price is considerably higher or lower do not hesitate to ask why. Do not hesitate to ask why if there is a big difference in pet and show pups. Unless there is a visible disqualification or the puppy visibly will not be showing potential, the younger the pup the harder it is to determine show quality. A person who really knows the breed can have a good idea what pups have show POTENTIAL and what may not. Much happens while the puppy grows and that eight week show prospect may not be show potential at 9 months! And avoid ANY breeder who charges different for males or females or who charges extra if you want a pedigree or registration. It is not that expensive to register a litter so the potential owners can individually register puppies. (Many kennel clubs like the AKC require all litters to be registered by the breeder. Then papers are sent out that are given to buyers of puppies so the owner can register them in their name).

2. What health tests have been done on BOTH parents of the litter? Any dog should have hips (OFA or PennHip), eyes (CERF) and ideally thyroid prior to breeding. Then is up to you as potential buyer to know what other tests the breed you are looking at should have. Even crossbred puppies are prone to hereditary health issues and parents should be tested prior to breeding for anything common within the two breeds crossed. Though a reputable breeder will NOT cross as the predicability in outcome is less and there are too many negligent litters of crossbred pups from unaltered pets. The breeder should be able to show documentation of all tests and do not hesitate to verify the results. Do not blindly accept their word – some dishonest breeders will lie and say all tests have been done. And if the breeder says there is nothing in the line so testing is not important, avoid this person as well. Some health problems are polygenetic (more than one set of genes involved – not a simple dominant/recessive). Some health problems take years to show fully or may be there but not showing outwardly. For example, some dysplastic dogs never show signs of having it and it is only diagnosed upon testing.

3. What temperament testing and socialization has been done? Granted, young puppies should not leave the property due to a growing immune system; however, the breeder should expose the puppies to as many things as possible like vacuum cleaners, children, house sounds, etc. The older the puppy, the more experiences it should have. Has the breeder temperament tested and what method was used? A good breeder will help match the right personality to you. If you are a quiet family and the breeder pushes a dominant pup on you, leave. On the other hand, if you like the look of one puppy and the breeder, after interviewing you, decides it is not the right match, respect that.

4. What goals does the breeder have with the breeding program and how does the breeder go about to achieve this? If the breeder breeds just to produce more dogs, for pets only or anything that does not go towards the bettering of the breeder's lines and the breed as a whole, go elsewhere. And if the breeder breeds for working ability first, you could end up with a handful! Look for one who breeds for companionship as well as type and working ability – unless you are looking exclusively for a working dog.

5. What does the breeder feel are the strengths and weaknesses in the breed and the breeder's program? The breeder should be open with you about the program and where they hope to go with it. Avoid the breeder who insists there are no better dogs around then his.

6. Can you see the pedigrees of both sire and dam? Can you see at least the dam on premises? The sire may not be on site but the dam should be. If not, you could be dealing with a broker (one who sells dogs not bred by that person).

7. What type of contract does the breeder have for pet or show puppies (it should include a spay/neuter agreement and health guarantee)? Do not get pressured into becoming contracted to show or breed your dog – even if you do plan to show and possibly get into breeding someday. Everything should be spelled out in the contract. And be wary of a breeder sells you a young puppy that is "definitely show quality." So much happens during growth and development – the younger the puppy; the harder it is to tell show quality. A breeder who really knows the breed can tell if a young pup has POTENTIAL but should not be guaranteeing the dog will be a show dog. Another red flag is the breeder who has no written contract at all. All puppies whether pet or show potential should be sold with a written contract.

8. What does the breeder feed the puppies? You want to try and keep the puppies on the same brand of food. If the breeder uses something you do not, gradually wean the puppy to your preferred brand.

9. What inoculations have been given? Eight-week-old puppies should have had their first set of inoculations and you should be given documentation of this. If not, go elsewhere. If the puppies have no boosters prior to leaving the dam, look elsewhere.

10. Can you get references of previous puppy buyers? If the breeder will not give them, go elsewhere.

11. Can you have your own vet examine the puppy before you fully commit? You may be asked to put down a deposit but you should have the option of having your vet examine the puppy with in a couple days after purchase (always a good idea to have this done and the breeder may require it).

12. Are you active in any breed clubs (all breed or ideally breed specialty)? Many clubs have a breeder code of ethics that they want their members to adhere to. Just being AKC registered is not a Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. It just means the puppy was from registered parents and the breeder has taken the steps to begin the registration process for the puppies. Even pet stores can sell AKC registered pups if the miller registers the dogs. The AKC cannot police everyone professing to be a breeder so again, being and educated consumer is very important.

Use your gut instinct and do not get suckered by cute faces or sob stories. Remember, this pup will be yours for the next ten years or much longer depending on breed. You should get the best possible puppy possible from the most responsible source you can find should you go the breeder route.

Many of these questions can be adapted to ask at a rescue as well. Do not hesitate to ask what is know about the background of the puppies (or adult dog), what medical care they have had and has the staff noticed anything about their temperaments that could be of concern? Ask about the adoption agreement and have it gone through carefully with you."

No part of this article may be reproduced without written permission from Karen Peak

© by West Wind Dog Training, [protected]
No Puppy Mills, VA 2003

A good breeder takes a LIFETIME interest in ALL dogs produced. They want to know how your dog does in it's new home, love getting calls and cards from you and are always there to advise you of a problem comes up. If a medical condition crops up, they want to know so if it is potentially hereditary, they can alter the program and try to stop the problem in future generations. A good breeder is a mentor and best friend to all buyers and dogs they produced. And a good breeder will sell with a spay/neuter contract or alter the puppy or dog before placement!

Backyard Breeder - what does it really mean...
BACKYARD BREEDERS-

So, what is a backyard breeder?

"The average pet owner that breeds their dog(s)."

Doesn't sound so terrible... true, but still not optimum. This is when a person has a pet dog, who for one reason or another is not a breeding quality dog (wrong body conformation, wrong head shape, teeth alignment, eye color, or is otherwise not perfectly "healthy" (hernia or the like) and should not be bred. Either they think their dog is "cute and should have puppies" or want to try to make back their purchase price so they breed them anyways. Generally they are not necessarily from healthy breeding stock, they can come from lines that have cancers, thyroid issues, allergies, bad hips (dysplasia), heart conditions and the list goes on and on. By-passing this important health testing is like playing russian roulette. You never know what the tendencies are in the pups. Temperament issues (aggression, anxiety) are also genetically transferred, so if you breed a dog with these issues, you can also pass them on to the puppies.

The problem with the backyard breeder isn't lack of caring, it is that lack of knowledge kills dogs.

Backyard breeders or BYB usually do not have bad intentions, per se. The majority are not the "evil", cruel", or "greedy" images we envision when we hear the term "BYB" or "backyard breeder". However, this does not minimize the very real risks and consequences to the breed and their pups, rather, the harm they do is done through ignorance - ignorance of the breed, of canine genetics, of health, and of well being and welfare. Backyard breeders are not experts on the breed. They are typically breeding pet quality dogs. They do not have the dogs screened for genetic defects and cannot guarantee the health and temperament of the puppies.

Most "backyard breeders" have no idea that their dog can appear to be healthy, yet can pass on serious genetic disease. Most have never heard of sexually transmitted diseases in dogs. And most sincerely believe that they can find good homes, but they have no idea how to make that real enough to protect their dogs from dying in shelters. The problem with backyard breeders is that they add dogs to the population without taking any steps to help reduce the numbers with serious genetic disease, and failing to know how to protect their dogs from ending up in shelters. So their dogs die.

Back yard breeders may act on a desire to make extra money, or simply out of ignorance. Sometimes back yard breeders will breed so "their children can experience the miracle of birth", or they mistakenly believe "every dog should have one litter", or "it was an accident". They may think their dog is so cute, he/she would make wonderful puppies, with little or no thought for the homes to which their puppies will go. Other back yard breeders see how much money legitimate breeders charge for pups and figure they could make some "easy money" too.

Back yard breeders usually bring two breeding animals together regardless of their quality. They are not interested in scientific breeding. Their aim is to fulfill a personal need or goal, not to improve the breed and bring excellent quality dogs to the world.

In spite of all of this, getting a pup from a back yard breeder is still a gamble, for the following reasons:

* the parents likely have not been screened for health problems
* puppies usually are not sold with contracts or any form of health gaurantee
* the breeders are not in it for the long haul, and won't be willing or able to take back the puppy if something goes wrong
* They will be working on new personal objectives in five years when your pet has a problem and you need help.

Although you may pay less for the breed of your choice from a backyard breeder, it's almost a given that in the long run, you'll pay a good deal more in vet bills and perhaps emotional bills (if the dog has to be euthanized due to a health or temperament problem), than you would from a reputable breeder.

Another thing to consider is where the backyard breeder got their breeding stock from in the first place. Since ethical breeders always sell pet puppies on a mandatory spay neuter clause, only two options exist:

* the ### has been bred without the knowledge of the seller, meaning this litter was born unregisterable and illegally. In some cases, breeders who have learned of litters born without their consent to dogs they have sold as pets have sued and won the right to reclaim any and all puppies sold. This means you could become embroiled in a costly, potentially emotionally devastating lawsuit.

* the ### and/or stud themselves came from another Back Yard Breeder, a petstore, a puppy mill or broker and most likely is of questionable genetic/health history.

Some people argue that dogs bred as pets don’t have to be show quality. Technically, they don’t; however, breeding dogs with possible faults can result in repercussions worse than a less-than-perfect dog.

People choose a specific breed based on qualities that are well-known within that breed. For instance:

* A German shepherd is hard-working and protective.
* A pug has a short muzzle and is a bit of a show-off.
* A border collie is an intelligent herder that weighs around 30-45 pounds.

But when someone breeds two dogs that are below standard, the resulting puppies will have unexpected qualities in both physique and attitude.

* A German shepherd that snaps and bites.
* A pug with an undiagnosed elongated palette that causes death during routine surgery.
* A border collie that is hyperactive, weighs 65 pounds, and is disobedient.

These puppies become members of the breed by name alone.

Even worse than character flaws, substandard breeding can result in genetic issues. If the parents aren’t tested for genetic defects, these problems can be passed on to the puppies, causing future health issues, pain, and expensive surgeries.

Every year, families must cope as their pets suffer from diseases such as hip dysplasia, hearing problems and deafness, progressive retinal atrophy leading to blindness, cardiomyopathy, and numerous other genetic disorders and conditions.

stupidassbybs666 ..LOL how do you keep up with all the fake names on here & the ones in your head? very time consuming, as I work for my self and have plenty of time, I 'am my own boss and take off when I want unlike you who have to clean butts & empty bed pans.. as YOU are NOT a Nurse, nor do you work for the Gov. .. you my friend are a Nurse asst. Next your gonna say you are a .. hmmm who knows I have to laugh though I must say!

why you preaching this to me on my complaint form...lol you need to talk to Lista Lucy Ann Faircloth as she my friend is a BYB & Puppymill 100% she has 3 dogs from my lines that are NOT fixed and have been bred, also has 3 litters on the ground. I said "I'm a dog breeder" and I'm proud of it and she is very much jealous.. as why else would she want another one from my lines... go figure & will NEVER happen! Ask her how many dogs she has unfixed? and she lives in city limits..hmmmmm maybe that is why she will not say!

backyard breeder?
DOGs?
Backyard breeder?
What breed of dogs are comparable to Golden Retrievers and labs in personality?
What do dog groomers use to make dogs smell so good?
Dogs!?
DOGS?
Dog?
dog!?
Why Does Your Dog Completely Ignore You Around Dogs?
Categories
Dogs
Other - Pets
Pets
Archives

January 2010
November 2009
August 2008
June 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
Blogroll
Admin
Log in
Wordpress
XHTML
Search
Nov
30Backyard breeder?
Filed Under Dogs
deanfamilyzoo asked:

I hear alot of people throw around the slang “backyard breeder”. Ive read many many posts regarding their vile selfish money grubbing nature. I even read one question seeking a new name for them so that irresponsible pet owners would be more willing to own up to their dirty deeds and actually consider themselves one. I read alot of really nasty comments. I saw alot of name calling and blaming. I noticed many long lists detailing what they are, what they do and why they deserve the worst corridors of hades. What I have NOT seen is a list of things that qualify breeders as “responsible” or “professional”. Please enlighten the uneducated masses and explain what defines one, versus the other.

GRADY
Comments
9 Responses to “Backyard breeder?”

■♥ DP ♥ on December 1st, 2009 8:00 pm
It’s been done.. Search thru some old questions to find out what constitutes a good and responsible breeder.
■Nandina on December 1st, 2009 11:09 pm
A responsible breeder

1) Breeds for a reason — to improve the breed.
2) Each litter is carefully considered before being created.
3) Any animal used for breeding is thoroughly checked for health problems before being bred.
4) Any animal used for breeding is proven in some way to have the abilities and other characteristics essential to the breed.
5) Keeps at least one puppy in each litter for his/her breeding program (otherwise, what was the purpose of the breeding)
6) Thoroughly evaluates potential puppy buyers to be sure each puppy is put into a good home
7) Requires that puppies not to be used for breeding be neutered. Encourages all puppy owners to test their puppies for various health probelms and report them back to the breeder so that the breeder has a broad as well as a deep knowledge of what is in his/her lines.
9) Takes back any dog he/she ever bred if that dog loses its home
10) Is honest about the various setbacks their breeding program may have suffered.
11) Is deeply knoweldgeable about the breed’s, history, original purpose, weaknesses and strengths.
12) Is willing to refuse to sell a puppy to a family that is unsuited to the breed.
13) Provides advice, feedback, and other help to people who have purchased a puppy from him/her.
14) Is willing to recommend to a family that adopting an adult dog of the breed might be a better option for them and helps them find a rescue group.
■sadiejane on December 5th, 2009 1:14 am
responsible breeders - do not breed for money, infact loose money on a litter. they only breed to better the breed or their chosen particular line

do not sell until puppies are at least 12 weeks old
has both parents tested for genetic health conditions
do not ship puppies
often do home checks
have approved homes before the litter is even bred
■kinn2him on December 7th, 2009 9:45 am
the answers above are excellent… i just wanted to note that some “responsible” breeders breed in their back yard… but they have equipped their backyard to properly breed, house and care for the dogs they have and expect
■zappataz on December 10th, 2009 6:28 pm
Good Point, here’s my list of what makes a breeder a responsible one.
1. They prove their breeding stock in both conformation and some type of performace event (herding, obedience..)
2. They only breed to better the breed…not for the money
3. They only breed healthy, genetically tested dogs for the breed (i.e, OFA hips, OFA elbows, patellas, heart, eyes..etc)
4. They are there for the LIFETIME of the puppy. They are willing to take back what they are responsible for putting on the face of this earth, at any time, for any reason, during the dogs life.
5. They care about what kind of homes their puppies go to, often asking a potential buyer to fill out a questionnaire, and perhaps a home visit. And they want referrals…..They don’t care who comes up with the money first, , , , what they care about is whether or not that dog will have the very best home and love and care.

Being a responsible breeder means caring about not only your personal dogs, but the breed as a whole. Think of responsible breeders as guardians of their chosen breed.
I’ve been very fortunate in that I’ve got great breeders standing behind my dogs, including the ones that I show for clients….These people have become lifetime friends and mentors, and I wouldn’t have met them if not for my dogs.
■yeehaneeha on December 11th, 2009 4:56 am
Backyard breeder:
A backyard breeder usually doesn’t have a lot of knowledge about dogs or the breed that they are breeding. Thy breed for the money and not to better the breed. They sometimes breed mixed dogs and sell them for a lot of money. They don’t know much about breeding dogs and will sell puppies to anyone with money.

Responsible breeder:
Responsible breeders have had a lot of experience with dogs, usually have trained dogs for many years before starting to breed. They reaserch the breed and are very knowledgable. They Xray their dogs and have blood work done to make sure that they’re dogs are healthy and fit. They keep tabs on the people who buy their dogs to make sure that they puppies are in a good and safe home. Most people have to fill out an application before they can get a dog. They usually show their dogs or have in the past. They want to better the breed.
■Bonsylar on December 13th, 2009 5:30 am
Breeding is, in and of itself, irresponsible!

While there is 1 pet dying in a shelter ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

DON’T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER ANIMALS DIE!

Also, no one is going to label themselves as a wrong doer. When you were talking about a different terms for different types of breeders, you mention the irresponsible breeders will call themselves something so everyone will know they are monsters. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Cheers.
■Shadow's Melon on December 15th, 2009 7:31 am
Here’s a link to a site that shows some differences between the byb and the reputable.

Backyard breeders don’t have what is considered an ethical reason to breed. Reputable breeders do. The reputable breeder:

1) breeds to improve the breed
2) does not breed before having the people lined up for the puppies they will produce… often more people waiting than puppies available
3) shows their dog in conformation or at least earning working titles in what their breed was meant to do
4) does all genetic testing on their dogs, not just “health checks” to ensure their dogs do not have any genetic issues that will pass on to the pups… if a dog shows to have an issue, they will not breed that dog
5) they require a spay/neuter contract on their pet quality pups and if a show quality pup is going to a novice home, they will have a hand in it and mentor the “newbie” to the show world
6) they will take back a dog they have produced at any time, any age, for any reason, as they care about the pups they have produced and do not want to see their lines ever end up in shelter or rescue
7) they thoroughly screen all potential puppy buyers to ensure their breed will actually be a good match for that family and they maintain a line of communication and support to the buyer for the lifetime of the puppy… basically, they do all they can to ensure that pup never has to be rehomed.

There’s a lot more to describe a good breeder. Backyard breeders don’t even come close to this. Many go into it with good intentions and they simply don’t take the time to self educate and realize what they are doing is the source of the overpopulation problem. I believe I saw a website today that stated 60% of the dogs in shelter and rescue came from bybs.

Best matches for why backyard breeders breed TO MAKE MONEY
A backyard breeder usually doesn't have a lot of knowledge about dogs or the breed that they are breeding. Thy breed for the money and not... Jump to text »

I DO NOT LISTA ADVERTISING CUTE LITTLE CHIS ALL DRESSED UP TO MAKE THEM LOOK CUTER, TO INTISE SOMEONE TO BUY A POORLY BRED CHI.YOU AND YOUR CHUBBY PAL FARRAH ARE DISGUEITING, AND YOUR FACEBOOKS ARE DEF. BYBS SITES.

And thanks for letting me and all my rescue facebook friends aware of you two.

WHILE THERE IS 1 PET DYING IN A SHELTER, ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE ! Just about says it all people!

To JDH55, where do you get your pics? They are too much! Funny funny stuff. Lmfao again!

In response to Nancy's, "I'M A DOG BREEDER". What a bunch of ###ing ###! Where in the hell do you get off saying that we animal rights activists rather see all animals dead than to see them happy? Where did you get that information? You didn't find it in your crack pipe, did you?

WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE I BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE IN MY LAST 3 POSTS? Can you give it one guess for Christ's sake? WHILE THERE IS 1 PET DYING IN A SHELTER, ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE ! How is this wanting to see animals die. I'm trying to encourage you not to breed dogs, so that the ones in shelters, sitting on death row have at least half a chance to find a forever home. I'M TRYING TO SAVE LIVES HERE !

What in the ### is the matter with you? You know the more and more you open your redneck white trash mouth, spewing your ###ed up "I'M A DOG BREEDER" bullcrap . . . The more I want to slap the ### out of your face! You need to have that brainless head of yours checked, because you are sounding more stupid by the post.

SHUT THE ### UP YOU LOSER! You should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you say, "They say that I sell them for money and exploit them for personal gain. I PLEAD "GUILTY" TO ALL OF THE CHARGES. KNOW WHAT ELSE? I DON'T FEEL GUILTY, NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. I DO IT. I LIKE IT. I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT"? You make me sick, you should be put out of your misery lady!

Answer just one question for me please Nancy, and I'll promise to leave you alone and go away. Will you do that for me "Petshack"? Answer this . . . . WHAT ABOUT ALL THE HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS IN SHELTERS THAT ARE DYING EACH & EVERYDAY, WHAT ABOUT THEM ? WHAT ABOUT THEM !

Thank you JDH55! God this Nancy ### pisses me off!

That is my point :)

Vote ### on the back of this back yard breeders head.she needs a washing anyway..lol

forgot the bybs pic..

Zac, you are so correct.Her dogs are not show quality.She is a pet shop, what does that tell you.Her beastly friend Farrah does the same ###, but she still lives home with mommy, and her puppies support her, because she cant get her fat ### out and get a job.Have you seen what she breeds...worse then Pethags.