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I purchased 3 complete units, received only 1 partial units.

With what I have received, I can't even use the 1 unit I did receive.

Sean Drazin, the owner, will no longer return calls, emails and will not issue a refund as requested several times.

Also, his warranty and guarantee are a complete lie.

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The Smack
islands, US
Nov 05, 2014 8:23 am EST
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In agreement with Dragon, I would like to say from personal experience that testing a product prior to release should be considered normal protocol. Using a customer base as guinea pigs for R&D is not only foolish and risky - but I feel its downright scandalous - unless you tell potential customers before they buy something from you that what you are selling is for experimental use only. They should know in great detail the issues they may see and have the understanding that they may not get the results they want. Additionally - with systems like HHO injection - results can and DO vary widely. I've seen some poorly designed systems actually do nothing but drag the alternator down and REDUCE mileage, and I've seen some systems go as high as 20% reliably. It depends on design, quality, the vehicle, and the driver. So many variables, in fact, that I believe it is foolhardy to make any claim on a device like this and try to guarantee it. I posted some 200 videos on YT explaining and describing these facts to the public, but some people don't want to hear the honest facts. They want to believe it will work a certain way no matter what. And that is where the trouble starts. I told Sean all this, but he rejected my advice, threatened to destroy me if I shared my thoughts with any of his customers, and then when I told them anyway tried to sue me into oblivion. You all know he failed and that justice was served. Unfortunately for me, my reputation was tarnished by association with such a crook. My intent from the very beginning was to be a research and development company funded by donations and people willing to take a knowing risk in this developing technology. I was very upfront about those facts and my customers understood the risk they were taking and were ok with seeing their purchase as a donation to my research. They knew and understood there was no guarantee. This is why you don't see complaint forums bashing me down - I never tried to fool or scam anyone. The only people bashing me were people who never bought or donated a single dime to me, but rather hated the whole HHO idea and used me as a punching bag to make their points because I was so well known in the industry. To further this spirit, I formed my company into a non-profit so that the intentions of our company could not be misconstrued. Unfortunately Sean had grander money dreams than that, and hoped that HHO would bring him riches and fame. That is the WRONG spirit - and the main reason he failed in every way and why this board is here. All that being said, I have solid concrete proof the HHO injection DOES in fact work. I posted that proof publicly in forums and on You Tube performed on a stationary genset with a non varying load and highly measured fuel consumption by mass. I measured and demonstrated how HHO lowers EGT temps and allows leaning of the fuel mix (thus reducing consumption) without causing detonation. My final number on those tests was 5.5% reduction in fuel consumption. It's not much - nothing to jump up and down about - but it DID work. The skeptics said HHO injection would reduce efficiency by dragging the power plant down, and I proved them wrong. But with so many variables and such a small window for success, is it really worth trying to release a mainstream product? And a stationary carb'd genset is not a car. Cars have complicated fuel map algorithms that greatly complicate the addition and testing of HHO systems. Add that the inconsistency of driving habits and terrain, and solid numbers are really unlikely. I think the HHO injection has potential, but in order to release a product it needs millions of dollars worth of testing and EPA examination. It needs major manufacturers to get on board. I really thought Sean had the ability to make this happen for us. He had me hook, line, and sinker with his altruistic verbiage and "do good for the world" pitch. He fooled me just like he fooled all his customers - using the same pitch and the same BS. The backyard DIY garage millionaires wanna-bee's like Drazin only slow this process down by tainting the very thought of HHO. This is why after Drazin I decided to stop commercially selling these units to the public even though I made the risks known upfront. I still have customers and do testing on local cabs and my own test mules, but I think much more work needs to be done before it can be said "This is ready for prime time". I proved it works - and I'll stand by that proof btw - but I think in order to do this right a more well funded and thorough approach needs to be taken. Dr. Z seems to be doing a pretty good job of doing just that - but look how long it has taken him and how many millions he has spent so far... You quoted some of Eric Kriegs writings, and I agree with him in many ways. Which is why even though I was a part of Drazin's company Erik and I still talk and share amicably even up to today. Speaking of which, I would stay clear of GDS and don't take Sterling too seriously. He is like a kid in a candy store - ready to grab at anything without really checking it out first. That's where the trouble starts...

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moriya
st clair shores, US
Mar 15, 2015 11:39 am EDT

Anyone looking for information on Sean Drazin should know he was arrested 3/12/15 for domestic violence and I'm told he is facing a cocaine drug charge at about 20 years. Told everyone I was done, and karma bit him back.

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The Smack
islands, US
Mar 15, 2015 5:09 pm EDT
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Sounds like Drazin's margin call has finally come. Time to pay up. It is unfortunate that this is what it takes to reel in this criminal. My prayers go out to the people he hurt, mostly his family - past and present. Someone should also pray for him too, he really needs it. I will try, though I'm pretty biased.

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Cynthia Eelbode
US
Mar 27, 2015 11:23 am EDT

Sadly this man has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder and sure would be diagnosed with other mental disabilities but he does not believe anything is wrong with him. Only he can decide if he wants help or willing to recognize he has problems and get help. I too am biased but prayer for him because he needs to be stopped. He has caused his children more mental anguish than any child should experience and don't know if, counseling can undo the damage he has done to them. Adults he has hurt can process it but children cannot. Sadly there will always be people who fall for ploys from people like him and he uses to get what he wants. I don't think there is anyone he does not owe money to and I have to believe that it will catch up to him and he will run out of options. The damage to his children is what is hardest to forgive but with pray, counseling and love they can learn to grow up to be good people and not follow in his footsteps.

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The Smack
islands, US
Mar 27, 2015 12:01 pm EDT
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Yes, let anyone following this who is moved to do so pray for Sean Drazin's children. I have met them a long time ago - they were innocent and sweet then. Good kids...

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dragon98
US
Apr 02, 2015 8:34 pm EDT
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Sean Drazin has proved time and time again what it means to give someone enough rope and eventually they will hang themselves. Sean is not a business man sean is a con man a man who needs to be on the biggest loser. Sean is a coward who preys on the weak and those who wont fight back. Ive seen his new girlfriend and cant believe that he has brain washed someone else little does she know shes about to be his punching bag. Hes liar and a con artist who stops at nothing to destroy others even his own kids who he says he never wanted are the victims in his plot to deceive others commiting fraud and using his ex wife as his personal bank to feed his ego when hes in a jam hes got a lein again him in Ga he owes thousands of dollars in debt that he continues to use others to pay for his mistakes make no mistake his ex wife is no saint shes just as sick as he is defrauding others for personal gain. Sean has made his life seem simple but taking credit for things hes never done stealing ideas to make a quick buck at the expense of others and will destroy anyone who exposes his dirty little secrets and lies even his own kids are not safe from this bully who uses his weight to intimdate even his own kids. Sad that others feel the same way about this mad. But i told you all before that sooner or later his world would start to crumble lost his wife lost his business lost his cars and his house and maybe even his kids god doesnt like evil people and this mad is the devil.

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Anon Amous
Monroe, US
Jul 01, 2015 4:44 pm EDT

smack and dragon contact me please

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dragon98
US
Jul 03, 2015 10:02 am EDT
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Sean drazin is a woman abuser he is controlling hes a fraud and hes a con artist. He is a very sad pathehic human being i would say man but more of a child. He mentally abuses his kids and will con any woman who would fall for his lies. Hes very charming but dont let that fool you. Hes been charged with domestic violence and has a case pending. Hes been know to be extremely violent hes also know to use drugs. Cocain and other illegal drugs and he will try and setup you up for anything thats his mo. He is also know to carry a weapon of which he is a convicted felon. Hes done time in prison and is not afraid to go back. He has a weakness for food and will enslave any woman he finds willing to put up with his lies his controlling ways if you own a pet he will commit pet domestic violence he will threathen to kill it poosion it run it over throw it up againt the wall shoot it stuff it in the freezer. Hes a waste of oxygen that should be in prison. Hes a con man that has people after him for loans hes defaulted on hes got a 5000 lean again him in ga hes got a daughter he left in ga and she wants nothing to do with him. Beware of this man he is. A dangerous man.

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squeakyqueen13
Milford, US
Jul 13, 2015 9:31 pm EDT

I have no choice but to agree with the aforementioned comments as it seems I have been deemed..in the way of.. his next con... the new woman has been deceived and her poor child dragged along for the ride. such a shame as a simple google search would have led to numerous red flags that I don't even need to mention as they are stated here quite plainly. this man sean drazin (and/or his new lady) would rather attempt to put a single mom and her young child out on the streets than risk exposure of what he really is. let's all ponder... a "man" that is willing to do that in order to avoid being exposed says a lot about his character.. doesn't it?!

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Embarassed4LastTime
US
Sep 02, 2020 2:23 am EDT
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I will chime in too! I did the google search and he talked me out of what I found on this very page prior to 2012 - I am Bevan from one of the restraining orders. He tried to have me arrested for “hitting” his oldest daughter, who I loved dearly and thank God the cops saw had old bruises on her face. He killed my cat, kidnapped my dog and threatened my mom. I write this because I am so sad to see this non-sense hasn’t stopped. If you are a woman reading this, he is so charming... but run!

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Dragon1998
US
Oct 17, 2020 9:44 pm EDT

Sean has tried to have his second wife poison her mother and threatened to have her dog put down by calling animal control saying the dog bit him. He also beat his second wife while she was pregnant and blamed it on second wife's kids father. I hear as of today he doesn't have much time that he might die soon and me personally its probably the best thing that could ever come of him. He has destroyed so many life's even the lives of his children his two daughters tried to commit suicide his ex wife slashed her arm so you tell me who the problem is. Sean drazin I hope you die a slow painful death. You weep what you sow.

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dragon98
US
Jul 13, 2015 10:07 pm EDT
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Sean drazin would con his own kids into thinking he is a great father sean would blake his own kids for a crime he comitted that is how heartless selfish and cruel this man is. Sean is a liar sean is a con man sean is very controlling he has a very bad temper and will hurt animals his own kids and any woman he will use as his person gym as a punching bag that goes for pregnant women too. He is very good manipulator theif con heart less ###. He uses his charm to con women in making false allegations against anyone he sees as a threat to him to expose his dirty laundry. He has nor has he ever owned a car hes leased a car why very clever he owes thousands of dollars in leins against him one in ga and another one for some trucking co. He never has owned a home why you ask because he will con you into putting it in your name so the cant touch him. Hes never owned a business that he didnt steal from his customers. Hes very clever but dont let the fat tub a lard fool you he would kill you and not think twice about it and then take a crap on your grave all while smiling. Hes a man that needs to be exposed for the lair con man he is. Hes very abusive to his kids even his ex wife that just divorced him. Theres a reason hes been divorced twice theres a reason hes never owned a home or car even his businesses were in some one elses name. Filing for LLC so he could steal as much as he could from his customers then close up shop under a different name. He has served time in prison and plea guilty to violation of a restraining order. Look up his criminal record its on this site to expose his phony charm. If you want to be a fool and beleive his lies then you can trust that you will be his next victim i can bank on that.

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Dozer415
Riverview, US
Jul 18, 2015 9:40 pm EDT

Sean Drazin has my daughter convinced he's a good guys. She's known him maybe 6 weeks. He has separated her from her family. Please contact me with any info that can help.

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Dozer415
Riverview, US
Jul 19, 2015 5:47 am EDT

Well maybe Sean Drazin will stop scamming people with this product now that he's moved onto his new business. His new business is growing Weed. He has a grow house in Detroit. Probably won't pay taxes on that either.

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dragon98
US
Jul 26, 2015 10:48 am EDT
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I bought 3 total units, obtained only one incomplete units.

using what I've obtained, I can not actually make use of the 1 device used to do obtain.

Sean Drazin, the dog owner, will not return calls, e-mails and certainly will not matter a reimbursement as required many times.

Also, his guarantee and promise really are a total rest. this is just to show you that all these people can't be liars.

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dragon98
US
Sep 06, 2015 8:12 am EDT
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Sean Drazin is trying to start up another company guess hes going to open up a marijuana dispensary. I have heard through the grapevine that hes been beating his current gf and has been cheating on her with someone else from craigslist. From what i understand his intent is to use his current gf to pay for his atty and then once he gets his kids hes going to leave her for this other woman hes been talking to.

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Atlas D
US
Mar 03, 2021 12:35 pm EST

So I've seen that the latest update was from 10/2020. I would like to inform anyone reading this that Sean Drazin, my father, had passed October 18th, 2020. I knew he was horrible, as I've experienced things firsthand as his second eldest child, and can back up basically all home issues that may have been spoken about (I didn't read them all), but I am deeply sorry you all had to go through things with him. I didn't even know this website existed, great time to find it after he's been dead for a bit, huh? ALSO- Why he wasn't responding to much of anything is because he was in the hospital from May to September, and bed ridden (able to do basically nothing) because he refused to stay in the hospital any longer. If that answers any questions.
- Second Eldest Child

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skeptic eric
Phoenixville, US
Jul 14, 2021 1:31 pm EDT
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Replying to comment of Atlas D

Atlas, I'm sorry for the huge pain it must have been for you having him as a father and hope you make sure that little of the evil will live on in you. I'm glad he will scam no more people. He did trick me years ago, took me doing a real test on my own to fully realize what a manipulative liar he was.
Eric

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EletrikRidesAgain
US
Jul 14, 2021 7:11 pm EDT
Replying to comment of Atlas D

Hello, I think I remember you when you were little. I'm your fathers former 20% partner. It's not good for anyone to speak poorly to a son about his father - dead or alive. So I'm not here to rail on him. Though it is true he scammed and abused a lot of people, including and especially myself, you can assure yourself you are not him. You are your own man now. Your future and destiny is in your hands, not your fathers. You know what your father did - and you know in your heart which of it was good and which of it was bad. It wasnt all bad - at least from the point of view that he was able to convince me to take a huge risk with him - and that is no easy task. He was talented in that he knew how to persuade and sell an idea. He was really good at that and hooked me in despite serious reservations. That was skill... Imagine if he could have applied that skill to an honest and legit business practices instead of taking a great idea and twisting it up... So there is some silver lining in that dark cloud. Take the good and run with it. Take the bad and discard it. Learn from it all and be a better man. Let only truth pass from your lips, hold your integrity at all costs. Even if it means potentially losing everything. Remember that stuff is just stuff and can be replaced. But you cant be replaced.

I told your father years ago as he was trying to crush me out of existence that if he didnt take care of himself better that I would see him pass before me. So be good to your mind and body. If you ever have any questions about those days - I knew a lot. Being business partners with someone means you see and hear a lot about the other person. That's kind of why our relationship was so short. It didn't take long to see I was in big trouble following and being a servant to your dad. But people recover - Eric and I still converse on a regular basis and I am currently in school about to attain my M.S. in BME.

I'm on a partial NASA grant and am planning on working for them once I'm graduated on the Artemis program. You may have heard they want to make hydrogen/oxygen fuel on the Moon and on Mars from water ice they have discovered there to reduce the cost (weight) of spaceflight. I fully plan on working on those systems, and we may yet see a Smacksbooster on Mars, lol. I'm only partially joking. It will be a vastly advanced design, but my hands will be in it. And if I get to install the units on location, I'm putting a Smacksboosters label on one in homage to all the backyard tinkerers who invested in this technology years ago. I am a bit bummed because I wanted your dad to see that come to pass. This tech didnt work very well for enhancing fuel mileage on vehicles - but it did work decently in reducing emissions. I still, to this day, strongly stand behind the data I collected and posted of mileage gains between 10 and 20%, including the gains I personally witnessed on Erik's Krieg's own car after doing a major design overhaul on your dad's product. I personally installed the device I redesigned, personally drove Erik's car, and collected the data myself. It was the most amazing day technology wise I had ever had. I thought FOR SURE we had secured once and for all the validity of the technology as applied. This was my dream, and I thought your father and I had just hit it out of the park. I remember being so excited that I hugged your dad and he wasnt much of the hugging kind lol. It was that success that won me over to become partners with your father. I stand behind those initial numbers even to this day. That wasn't a scam, and you deserve to know that. It was a real victory backed by REAL numbers that I personally collected and was able to repeat three times over.
The problem was, when Erik started having maint issues once we turned the car back over to him, your dad handled it all wrong. He was more worried about his image than making sure Erik had good instructions and a quality product. And you know the rest of that story. Threats, yelling, insults... I was there and heard it all. A real shame and disgrace, and I knew we were done. It was the beginning of the end of my relationship with your dad. The major issue was maintenance, upkeep, and reliability. The units sprung leaks often, and the small gains were very very difficult to measure and not really worth the massive effort required to install and maintain. These gains were small effects, hence all the skepticism and attacks. 20% is hard to quantify with so many other variables. You can get 20% on your own just by hypermiling. But I stand by those numbers now as before. Your father was NOT completely lying about the product he was selling. It DID work - but barely. And it needed serious engineering and manufacturing improvements. I helped improve it significantly - but in the end his poor etiquette overshadowed any successes. A tragedy. The scam wasn't the technology. The scam was the bad business model your father adopted and lack of follow through.

As an engineer in training 2 semesters away from graduation, I stand behind the math that proves the designs I tested. But using HHO as rocket fuel made from solar powered electrolysis of water is a slam dunk. NO ONE can claim its a scam. The science is irrefutable. It's not some small sliver of a percent. It's the whole deal. Your father, like me, understood that. So despite the HORRID business practices he engaged in, he wasn't all wrong. He had the right idea. And that can be part of your legacy. Electrolysis tech has a HUGE future and has great importance in our exploration and energy future. Done right, and in the right context, there is respect, honor and dignity in pursuing this technology. Don't let your fathers mistakes discourage you from pursuing your own path in your own way. He wasnt completely wrong. I know he cost a lot of people a lot of money. He destroyed my business and almost took everything I owned. But no matter. I recovered and the truth about HHO and its uses is still valid. The USN uses it on subs to make clean oxygen and purify water (I was a Navy nuke submariner, MM3), and NASA will use it to travel to new worlds. So, keep that in mind as you think about your father's work. Most of it was dishonest, but some of it was innovative which is why I joined him. Best of success to you, find out what you are meant to be and then put your all into it and have integrity about it. IT's never too late - just ask me :). Also remember that your past does NOT define you. What you do today will define you.

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