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if you are thinking about getting a pup from TBC Goldens in NC., think again. The owner is crazy. Don't do it. Our 8 week old pup caught a virus which may or may not been caused at birth. She was awful to deal with. Don't buy her pups! She is a crazy person! Buyer beware!

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Our puppy experienced some type of virus which was not the breeders fault. They were willing to give us a new dog but things worked out with our puppy. I became angry when the breeder said she would not assign our dogs micro-chip to us. A lot of this was based on miscommunication. I really do believe that this breeder has the best intentions and means well. Our 13 week old pup is beautiful and is doing great. I'd definitely consider them again for a new pup. When our dog became ill emotions run high. Not sure how the dog contracted the virus. Spent $5000 at NCSU Vet school but again she is 100% now. I am trying to delete my review as it is now inaccurate.

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Sep 23, 2015 8:13 am EDT
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I wish I had seen this two days ago.

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Oct 05, 2015 12:43 pm EDT
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I am the owner of this website named Scott and Layla Brown and Ron and Leslie purchased a puppy from us at 8 weeks old and was strongly given advice not to take the puppy out in public at all on the ground until fully vaccinated. Ron called us and stated there was something wrong with the puppy yes he sure in deed did. It was not until we found out from the vet is Raleigh with giving us all the information on it that Ron and Leslie Shappell both took the 8 week old puppy to Myrtle Beach, the vet demanded to us in with telling us everything about this puppy of when she first left our home at the University Raleigh do NOT give them a replacement puppy because it did not come from on our end at all that is was exposed to a virus with what is most likely at the beach ther vet stated to us of what all washes up on shore. I emailed and contacted Ron and Leslie both through their difficult time. They did not want to pay the vet bills, they wanted to put the puppy to sleep. I told then the vet said she is getting better do not do that to give her a chance at life. The vet demanded the pup not going anywhere at all to stay at the University being we were on our way to Raleigh when the vet made that demand. We were even going to give them their money back plus 2 puppies for whet they were going through. We did everything on our end and power to make Ron and Leslie happy but felt it was not our fault that they exposed the puppy at only 8 weeks old at the beach with other dogs being on the beach too. I then again offered the male puppy to them when this was not in fact our fault to sell him and keep the money to put towards their vet bills which they refused to take him 2 times. As said, they were given a packet of instructions in their puppy's folder with stating DO NOT TAKE THE PUPPY OUT IN PUBLIC PLACES UNTIL FULLY VACCINATED. Puppy was vaccinated on [protected] with only the 1 vaccine when they took her to the beach. Ron even claimed that he will leave us a awesome review on puppyfind for all we did and all our efforts with them which we never got. So a lady contacts me showing e this for the very first time and YES I am very dumb-founded by it all after all what I did to help these people for what they caused by taking her to the beach with only 1 vaccine only 3 days before leaving our home. : (

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Oct 05, 2015 12:58 pm EDT
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This lady Beverly was told about this at our front door with being a neighbor to Ron and Leslie with living in Raleigh too about vaccines and do NOT put the puppy on the ground in public places at all until FULLY VACCINATED. Beverly agrees what they did was wrong then adds to this online comment of Ron and Leslie's complaint. She was upset because the vet exam receipt from the vet was not in the puppies folder of what we paid to take them all their on their first health exam at the vet when she was emailed pics of the puppies at the vet. We also told her all the vet gives us is a receipt, they do not give all the pups info to us on one form for each puppy buyer. So she contacted us all irate over a simple paper pf paying almost $200.00 at the vet because it was not in the puppies folders and because we do our own vaccines which most breeders do their own vaccines as long as you purchase them from a reputable place of business always on ice with never losing temps while shipped with giving labels of the lot numbers on each one that they had with expiration dates. Also with given a health packet in all puppy's folder too of every single thing each puppy had had as well as all packages of heart worm meds in each one too along with the stickers and lot numbers written on each one with expiration dates as well. We have so many clients tell us that their vets have never seen such a full thorough health record on any puppies as they have seen on ours before.

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Dec 14, 2015 11:02 am EST
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I stand by my comment about the initial posting. I wish I had been forewarned about this breeder. I would not recommend this breeder to any consumer.

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Dec 14, 2015 12:13 pm EST
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Again this is the owners of TBC Goldens regards to mos of numerous same issues from a lady named Beverly Talyor. This lady had continued to pry herself in another puppy buyer's business with us regards to a puppy that was not sold to her that got ill when taken it to the beach. She then continued to be all ugly and resentful towards us because we told her that Animal Control had told us it was in fact was a lady from Raleigh that called in on us saying we were selling sick puppies well that is where Beverly lives is in Raleigh, which she still denies. All puppies have been examined by the vet at 7 weeks 5 days of age on August 19th 2015 on this litter. Beverly was mad because her microchip on her dog was in fact not registered to her being she registered it with another company with AKC. We told her to contact Home Again to transfer it as soon as she paid us the remaining balance. She finally did call them but never finished paying. She is apparently not happy because she got a $3000.00 puppy for only being last one of which Ron and Leslie did not this one want that was offered to them; for $850.00, then she asked for full AKC reg on him for showing purposes only she stated clearly even though we highly recommended and instructed her not to breed him being his sire we purchased from Ukraine in April was a dog that we had gotten scammed on. We have done nothing but went above and beyond for this lady and we do not know what her problem is when it is with somebody else and what minor issues she has she brought them all upon herself. How many breeders would let a puppy buyer come to their home at almost midnight on a Tuesday work night to be up and leave for work the next day at 5 am to pick up a puppy that was supposed to be there originally at 6:30 pm? Everything was gone over with Beverly in her puppy's folder of all documents other then I had forgot to put my receipt in her folder of what I paid to take the litter to the vet for their appoint. on the 19th. I had Heart worm med empty packets of lot numbers w/ expiration dates, lot numbers to all vaccines, and all scheduled wormings even the lot number to the Home Again microchip on the Health Record of her puppy, including all mom and dad's paperwork, copies of health clearances, AKC paper work, pedigrees, litter Pedigree, Optigen testings, Animal Genetic testings, Champion titles on both dogs, plus more...And she is still not happy. Please do not let this lady's words scare you on here of a awesome show quality puppy from very highly champion imported parents. There is always one bad apple in a bunch.

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Dec 14, 2015 3:04 pm EST
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I am not going to elaborate on the breeder's response.
My only objective is to put my personal experience, what I was and continue robe on the receiving end of out here for the consumers, so that they can do their own due diligence, and make an informed decision as to whether or not it is in their interest to buy from, do
business with this breeder. If anyone seeing this has also been victimized, scammed, would like specifics, by all means feel free to contact me.

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Dec 14, 2015 3:22 pm EST
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This crazy woman has her own beliefs of untrue facts due to prying into others businesses of the sales of their puppies. She needs mental help and therapy too.

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Dec 14, 2015 3:23 pm EST
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Nobody has been victimized nor scammed at all whatsoever, this lady Beverly Taylor is delusional.

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Dec 14, 2015 3:30 pm EST
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Please contact me of all that Beverly Taylor contacts so I may please add you to the slander list of her and what she is doing, thank you Ashley Roberts and Scott Brown at TBCG's

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Dec 14, 2015 3:37 pm EST
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Just to clarify/ I DO live in Raleigh, NC. I have never stated otherwise. I initially paid 850.00, and subsequently paid an additional 650.00 for full registration. He was the last of his litter.
This breeder refused to transfer his chip multiple times. I had to provide supporting documentation and go through legal channels to get it done. The breeder attempted to extort additional money out of me. The chip was included with the dog, was done before I ever bought the dog. There was no contractual agreement that my dog's chip transfer would be held hostage unless I gave her more money. The breeders name is not her real name, an alias. Do your own due diligence and Google Leah Winkler. There is a long history, and there are multiple charges, convictions of fraud, theft and harassment in her previous residency in Arizona and Calufornia. This breeder has been cyber harassing, cyber bullying me for four months. Additionally, her most recent electronic communication to me states her own admission of fraud, that my dogs litter, lineage is fraudulently registered, that his health guarantee was also a fraud, that he was not sired by the dog advertised, that I was told he was sired by and is on my contract, purchase and AKC registration documents. I am NOT a dog breeder. I am a pet owner. I have no agenda here other than to inform other consumers of my experience with this breeder, help prevent others being victimized, defrauded the same way. My supporting documentation contains such vile, deplorable language, comments used, written by this breeder that I will not post it here. Feel free to contact me in a private message to request anything specific from me.

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Dec 14, 2015 3:38 pm EST
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California, re typo

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Dec 14, 2015 3:55 pm EST
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Shows what a fool Beverly Taylor really is, AKC had documentation of paperwork being notarized by TBC Goldens and no where on this website nor with this breeder is her name on anything at all, nor the fact that she even resides in NC being last known she was in AZ or Cali after they old all their dogs. They sold one of their dogs to us that we purchased from them and sold already ourselves. Tells you how whacked this Beverly Taylor really is. She has incorrect assumptions of mixing us up with somebody else. TBC Goldens has not harassed this woman whatsoever; this woman emails us sometimes 20 times daily with such high demands. She is cyber stalking us as well as slandering us and her day is coming to her. I just lost a very close family member that passed away last month as well as my mother on Christmas and my father 2 years ago this last month I told Beverly to please stop with your untrue stories and harassment's at this difficult time of year. She continues with such false claims of linking us with a past breeder here in NC of which does not breed anymore does live here either. Please pray for this woman, she needs alot of mental help. TBCG's Ashley Roberts

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Dec 14, 2015 3:57 pm EST
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Please as said REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH TBCG'S that BEVERLY TAYLOR HAS HAD to put on our Slander list, thank you. Ashley

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Dec 14, 2015 4:00 pm EST
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We are not a past breeder that Beverly claims us to be. Please contact AKC about it and they will tell you and show you notary signatures of myself Ashley Roberts which is myself of dog ownership's. As said Beverly Taylor is delusional.

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Dec 14, 2015 9:23 pm EST
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Beverly Taylor is correct. I have personally seen all of the threatening and malicious emails this TBC Goldens has sent to Beverly. They are cyberstalking her and calling her vulgar names and using vile and disgusting language, threatening her, stalking her. I have never seen anyone in business behave like this. Their behavior is criminal; bizarre. These people have done nothing but try to extort money from this lady and all she did was purchase a dog and it has been nothing but a terrible experience. If the original complaintant posted on here they are accurate. Believe them. Buyer beware.

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msfranklin68
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Dec 14, 2015 9:29 pm EST
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I am a business investigator and intelligence analyst by trade and Ms. Taylor has a background in Intelligence. We have done our homework. There is no slander when facts can be proven to be accurate. Ms. Taylor posted her experience and that is fact; 100% accurate. These people and their actions appear very dangerous. I have seen all of the correspondence. There are other breeders. Avoid this group. Behavior is no less than attempted extortion.

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Dec 14, 2015 9:41 pm EST
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You are lying. I can have so many people email and state all kinds of stuff what you are doing to these people that you have wrongful information about. Keep it all up, this is all documented along with all the emails from everybody she has sent them to as well as the police here. Boy when they made one evil they made her twin, didn't they. Too bad you will never find about anything at all for we do not play games with whacked people that are psycho with being delusional, is that what the service does to you takes more then half of your mind? I have my ### covered, do you? Haha

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Dec 14, 2015 9:42 pm EST
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BTW! Ms franklin is Beverly's lover, what do you expect?

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Dec 14, 2015 9:51 pm EST
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Don't have anything better to do then to harass others by Beverly Taylor.

Do you know a woman named Beverly Taylor? Sent me a PM on my FB page this evening ...

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me at [protected]. My email is redbev2@gmail.com.
Respectfully,
Beverly Taylor

Yes, she sent me multiple messages via private message on my FB page. Contacted me the first time last night saying that she bought a dog from you that had fake pedigree/papers. Said she and multiple other customers are involved in a law suit against you and that you had many different aliases and criminal charges were being brought against you. Told me that I should check the dna of my dog to make sure his pedigree isn't fake...

she is a stalker is how she knew by getting it off puppyfind

Beverly Taylor
Dec 13th, 9:50pm
Teddy Bear Creme Goldens sold a "Champion" to me too, a few months ago. This lady has stalked, harassed, victimized me for months. I just got an email admission from the breeder, TBC Goldens, stating that my dog's registration is a fraud, that he is not sired by the parent dogs that she registered with AKC, that the dog is not the dog she sold to me. I have seen documented allegations of TBC's fraudulent breeding practices, fraudulent AKC registration, and fraudulent health certifications of the dogs. Her real name is Leah Winkler which I highly doubt that at all one bit being what I bought and what I saw and who I met. This breeder changes her business name frequently, and uses false aliases, not her real name. She calls herself Layla, Laura, and uses the last name Brown, Roberts. She has a significant criminal history. I saw your posting, and hope to stop this victimization of innocent consumers. I am NOT a breeder. I bought my dog as a pet, and registered him with AKC. There are others I know that she has done this to as well, other breeders too. I will provide more information at your request. Sorry I lost my mind. You can reach
me at [protected]. My email is redbev2@gmail.com.
Respectfully,
Beverly Taylor

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 9:58am

I don't mean to be intrusive, bother you, have no agenda. TBC
Goldens just sent another harassing threatening email to me, quoting my previous message to you. Sir/Ma'am, Here are the following screenshots of the emails I got from her last night. I can provide you the name and contact information of another breeder that this happened to. This lady has prior convictions of fraud, assault and battery, theft in AZ, CA, and has operated under multiple business names, personal aliases. She has been convicted multiple times, and is presently under criminal investigation. Your papers probably state the dam and sire, but you probably won't find actual DNA verification. Here are screen shots said from my inbox, written by her, fraud of her own admission. Just google TBC Goldens, Teddy Bear Creme Goldens, Lea(h) Winkler and do your own search, see for yourself. Your AKC documents are probably as fraudulent as mine are from this breeder. Additionally, there is credible, verifiable information, credible individuals who have been victimized in the same manner, who will corroborate what I am telling you. Please review the following:

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 10:04am

The picture of the dog shown is my dog. I took that picture myself. She hijacked the above photo, used it as her own in her correspondence above.
She is presently under criminal investigation. I have forwarded her emails, admissions of defrauding the AKC, to AKC, went to their office this morning. Their office building is two miles from me.

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 10:18am

By all means, you can make your own decisions about breeding the dog you purchased from her, but at least you can make an informed decision, judgement call. Again, I will reiterate, I am NOT a dog breeder. I am a consumer who has been victimized and defrauded by this breeder, and I am one of several individuals, both pet owners and breeders. The health guarantees are too. I am reaching out to everyone who is acquiring a dog from this individual, and letting them know what this breeder did to me, unethical breeding practices, criminal actions. I wish I had been forewarned, made aware before I walked into what I did. This individual has terrorized me for months, blatantly cyber stalked me, attempted to extort additional money from me, has threatened me physically, has admitted, boasted of theft by fraud against me. There are others. I am not the only one. I would suggest that you try to verify your dog's actual DNA and get your own health certifications done before breeding him. He is beautiful. My apologies if I have offended you in any way.

Beverly Taylor, Realtor
Retired, US Army
redbev2@gmail.com
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I haven't responded to any of her messages. I really don't want to get into that type of drama. Besides, I don't have any reason to believe that you've done anything wrong by me - or anyone else, for that matter! Just the word of some lady I don't know...

Good luck with that one! Hate that you have to deal with someone like that!

Yes. One of them had something to do with Home Again & microchipping...

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Dec 14, 2015 9:53 pm EST
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Ms Franklin You do not know anything at all, all you are is hearsay. Thanks for your input but it means absolutely nothing but you are just as crazy as Beverly Taylor is in Raleigh NC that walks into the AKC office and they all look at her like she is crazy after she speaks.

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Dec 14, 2015 9:57 pm EST
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There is no heresay when the evidence is in black and white. You are an extortionist, unprofessional and I hope the authorities shut you down.

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Dec 14, 2015 10:02 pm EST
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Also, quite frankly, just reading your responses are enough to indicate you have serious issues and are not fit to operate a business. To potential buyers pay attention. This is what you will deal with if you buy a dog from this person. Certifiable!

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Dec 14, 2015 10:06 pm EST
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You are so full of it Beverly and you have wrong incorrect facts. SLANDER

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Dec 14, 2015 10:07 pm EST
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There is nothing in black and white other then just your face...SLANDER!

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Dec 14, 2015 10:07 pm EST
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Have Fun!

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Dec 14, 2015 10:08 pm EST
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And you want to talk about slander? Slander is an untruth written or spoken publicly to harm one's reputation. Your comments about Ms. Taylor, personal attacks you are making like "MsFranklin68 is her lover" are slander. Something is seriously wrong with you. There is medication for that. These people have stated their complaint regarding your business practices. They have a right to do that. They have facts and evidence to back up their claims. I personally have examined the evidence. You are going down. You just happen to be cyberstalking and threatening a lady who did business with you who just happens to have a background as an intelligence professional... let that sink in.

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Dec 14, 2015 11:01 pm EST
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TBCG you have done nothing but attack and terrorize clients who had issue with purchase of their dog. People put their trust in you for such an important decision. You have done nothing but harass and terrorize Ms. Taylor, attempted extortion, bullying threatening harassing. All sh wanted to do was get her dog and register it and when simple issues arose you went into attack mode. You have threatened her in writing. How dare you treat a customer like that. You should be ashamed. She does have a background in Government Intelligence. I strongly encourage you to apologize and stop your outrageous actions immediately. And if you intend to stay in business get your act together. You can't treat customers like that. There are laws that protect consumers and laws against your kind of behavior. Ms Taylor is a very good person and she would never harm anyone. She doesnt deserve what this breeder business owner has subjected her to.

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Dec 15, 2015 8:09 am EST
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This is just damage control . My facts are credible, verifiable, and I stand behind my comments.

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Dec 15, 2015 8:10 am EST
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The Breeders names are Leah and Harold Winkler.
There is an open fraud investigation, pending charges against them right involving eBay. This woman copy/pasted and altered a private message I sent to a breeder, advising her that her dog's registration may be fraudulent. Buyer Beware! The breeder can now make an informed decision. (Ms Franklin is my sister.) TBC Goldens added to my message that was posted on here with "I lost my mind". I did not write that.
This woman is deranged. Referring to me as a "lesbian" first of all is inappropriate, and especially on a public posting . Ashley Roberts is an alias. Layla is an alias, Scott Brown is also a false alias. These people are already operating outside the law, have pending criminal charges of fraud on eBay with Burke county, and a criminal investigation against her here in Raleigh. Their real names are Lea and Harold Winkler. Lea has a very long criminal history of this nature that goes back 15 years, in Arizona and California. I WOULD CAUTION ANY CONSUMER, WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT ANYONE BUY A PET OR BREEDING DOG FROM THESE PEOPLE IN HILDEBRAN/HICKORY NC,
They are also running a crowd source funding scam, contacting asking former customers and asking them for money. This is all verifiable information that is documented. There are multiple witnesses who are prepared to come forward regarding this matter. From my own personal experience, I would not advise anyone get involved with any monetary transaction with these folks.

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Dec 15, 2015 8:51 am EST
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These are screenshots of some of the emails, admission of fraud sent to me by this breeder two days ago. The picture of my dog
Is my picture, that I took myself, that she hijacked.

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Dec 15, 2015 8:53 am EST
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Screenshot of harassing email, admission of fraud re my dog

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Additional cyber harassment email, admission of fraud re my dog,
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Dec 15, 2015 10:17 am EST
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The private message I sent to Spun Gold Golden Retrievers in a private message on fb that TCBG's is referring to was as follows, verbatim. TCBG's altered them after the other breeder forwarded them to her, and posted them above. Here are the messages, verbatim, as follows:
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Teddy Bear Creme Goldens sold a "Champion" to me too, a few months ago. This lady has stalked, harassed, victimized me for months. I just got an email admission from the breeder, TBC Goldens, stating that my dog's registration is a fraud, that he is not sired by the parent dogs that she registered with AKC, that the dog is not the dog she sold to me. I have seen documented allegations of TBC's fraudulent breeding practices, fraudulent AKC registration, and fraudulent health certifications of the dogs. Her real name is Leah Winkler. This breeder changes her business name frequently, and uses false aliases, not her real name. She calls herself Layla, Laura, and uses the last name Brown, Roberts. She has a significant criminal history. I saw your posting, and hope to stop this victimization of innocent consumers. I am NOT a breeder. I bought my dog as a pet, and registered him with AKC. There are others I know that she has done this to as well, other breeders too. I will provide more information at your request. You can reach
me at [protected]. My email is redbev2@gmail.com.

Respectfully,
Beverly Taylor

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I don't mean to be intrusive, bother you, have no agenda. TBC
Goldens just sent another harassing threatening email to me, quoting my previous message to you. Sir/Ma'am, Here are the following screenshots of the emails I got from her last night. I can provide you the name and contact information of another breeder that this happened to. This lady has prior convictions of fraud, assault and battery, theft in AZ, CA, and has operated under multiple business names, personal aliases. She has been convicted multiple times, and is presently under criminal investigation. Your papers probably state the dam and sire, but you probably won't find actual DNA verification. Here are screen shots said from my inbox, written by her, fraud of her own admission. Just google TBC Goldens, Teddy Bear Creme Goldens, Lea(h) Winkler and do your own search, see for yourself. Your AKC documents are probably as fraudulent as mine are from this breeder. Additionally, there is credible, verifiable information, credible individuals who have been victimized in the same manner, who will corroborate what I am telling you. Please review the following:

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The picture of the dog shown is my dog. I took that picture myself. She hijacked the above photo, used it as her own in her correspondence above.
She is presently under criminal investigation. I have forwarded her emails, admissions of defrauding the AKC, to AKC, went to their office this morning. Their office building is two miles from me.

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By all means, you can make your own decisions about breeding the dog you purchased from her, but at least you can make an informed decision, judgement call. Again, I will reiterate, I am NOT a dog breeder. I am a consumer who has been victimized and defrauded by this breeder, and I am one of several individuals, both pet owners and breeders. The health guarantees are too. I am reaching out to everyone who is acquiring a dog from this individual, and letting them know what this breeder did to me, unethical breeding practices, criminal actions. I wish I had been forewarned, made aware before I walked into what I did. This individual has terrorized me for months, blatantly cyber stalked me, attempted to extort additional money from me, has threatened me physically, has admitted, boasted of theft by fraud against me. There are others. I am not the only one. I would suggest that you try to verify your dog's actual DNA and get your own health certifications done before breeding him. He is beautiful. My apologies if I have offended you in any way.

Beverly Taylor, Realtor
Retired, US Army
redbev2@gmail.com
[protected]

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Dec 15, 2015 11:18 am EST
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All true. I have seen all evidence.

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Dec 27, 2015 6:24 pm EST
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You have NOT seen anything at all. Keep Slandering more, so I can sue you for more money, pos...YOU ARE A FULL BLOWN NUTCASE IS WHAT YOU ARE THAT KNOWS NOTHING OF THE TRUTH! She refuse to pay microchip registration fees which all pet buyer pay them themselves. She caused an issue with Animal Control with an other party she butted her nose into is why we registered the dog in our name plus the fact the still owes money for the dog that she NEVER paid for. This lady is absolutely Crazy and losing her mind, she sent that picture to Home Again herself and put it on his page with them herself. We do NOT have contact with her at all and DON'T want to either. She honest to God needs a Psych award is what she needs. She just goes on here and rambles what she wants trying to get others to believe her or what she writes with editing emails then taking screen shots well I can do that easily if wanted to. Beverly Taylor is one hell of a crazy RHB that is for sure. She has brain trauma from the cheesy army she was in, and claims she is a Realtor, she is not Realtor of nothing at all. maybe dog houses if that. All she is a a lady that bought a dog, got her nose in another persons sale business at the op of this original complaint and went to town with badgering us as well as calling animal control on us too for something that did not pertain to her at all of any of her business whatsoever. Please contact Ron and Lesley Shappell. about this as well as Look at Ron and Leslie' Shappell'ss Review on Puppyfind after the matter of what happened to their puppy caused by themselves with taking it to the beach at 8 weeks old until fully unvaccinated. Ron http://www.puppyfind.com/reviews/?acct_id=753881&back=%2Fview_listing%2F%3Flist_id%3Ds31q7g4571%26back%3D%252Ffor_sale%252F%253Fbreed_id%253D287%2526country%253D%2526state%253D%2526city%253D%2526page%253D1%2526order_by%253Dnew%2526back%253D%25252Fbreed%25252F%25253Fbreed_id%25253D287%252526back%25253D%2525252Fbrowse%2525252F%2525253Fstr%2525253De%25252526page%2525253D1&sid=8ipe4se2bqf0t467t9m8pgqcc6As said shows one hell of a crazy RHB's out there named Beverly Carter and her accomplish so called back stabbing friends that dont know anything being they were not here when this crazy Red Head bought her puppy from us which that is for sure. Beverly Carter needs to check in, in a nut house that is for sure or Broughton Hospital. AR

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Dec 27, 2015 6:33 pm EST
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Can't falsify names on imported dogs with pedigrees in picking them up at Customs, Registering them with AKC that matches pedigrees so then who are we in picking them up if says our names of Lori Brown and or Ashley Roberts along with Scott Brown? Duh! Don't know where you are getting your info from. We are NOT Winkler's. They sold out and live in CA.

Yes, she (Beverly Carter) sent me multiple messages via private message on my FB page for Spun Gold Golden Retrievers. Contacted me the first time last night saying that she bought a dog from you that had fake pedigree/papers. Said she and multiple other customers are involved in a law suit against you and that you had many different aliases and criminal charges were being brought against you. Told me that I should check the dna of my dog to make sure his pedigree isn't fake...

Yup. Yes, you can use meas a witness for slander against you. I'll to a copy/paste of what she said to me ...

Beverly Taylor
Dec 13th, 9:50pm
Teddy Bear Creme Goldens sold a "Champion" to me too, a few months ago. This lady has stalked, harassed, victimized me for months. I just got an email admission from the breeder, TBC Goldens, stating that my dog's registration is a fraud, that he is not sired by the parent dogs that she registered with AKC, that the dog is not the dog she sold to me. I have seen documented allegations of TBC's fraudulent breeding practices, fraudulent AKC registration, and fraudulent health certifications of the dogs. Her real name is Leah Winkler. This breeder changes her business name frequently, and uses false aliases, not her real name. She calls herself Layla, Laura, and uses the last name Brown, Roberts. She has a significant criminal history. I saw your posting, and hope to stop this victimization of innocent consumers. I am NOT a breeder. I bought my dog as a pet, and registered him with AKC. There are others I know that she has done this to as well, other breeders too. I will provide more information at your request. You can reach
me at [protected]. My email is redbev2@gmail.com.
Respectfully,
Beverly Taylor

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 9:58am

I don't mean to be intrusive, bother you, have no agenda. TBC
Goldens just sent another harassing threatening email to me, quoting my previous message to you. Sir/Ma'am, Here are the following screenshots of the emails I got from her last night. I can provide you the name and contact information of another breeder that this happened to. This lady has prior convictions of fraud, assault and battery, theft in AZ, CA, and has operated under multiple business names, personal aliases. She has been convicted multiple times, and is presently under criminal investigation. Your papers probably state the dam and sire, but you probably won't find actual DNA verification. Here are screen shots said from my inbox, written by her, fraud of her own admission. Just google TBC Goldens, Teddy Bear Creme Goldens, Lea(h) Winkler and do your own search, see for yourself. Your AKC documents are probably as fraudulent as mine are from this breeder. Additionally, there is credible, verifiable information, credible individuals who have been victimized in the same manner, who will corroborate what I am telling you. Please review the following:

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 10:04am

The picture of the dog shown is my dog. I took that picture myself. She hijacked the above photo, used it as her own in her correspondence above.
She is presently under criminal investigation. I have forwarded her emails, admissions of defrauding the AKC, to AKC, went to their office this morning. Their office building is two miles from me.

Beverly Taylor
Dec 14th, 10:18am

By all means, you can make your own decisions about breeding the dog you purchased from her, but at least you can make an informed decision, judgement call. Again, I will reiterate, I am NOT a dog breeder. I am a consumer who has been victimized and defrauded by this breeder, and I am one of several individuals, both pet owners and breeders. The health guarantees are too. I am reaching out to everyone who is acquiring a dog from this individual, and letting them know what this breeder did to me, unethical breeding practices, criminal actions. I wish I had been forewarned, made aware before I walked into what I did. This individual has terrorized me for months, blatantly cyber stalked me, attempted to extort additional money from me, has threatened me physically, has admitted, boasted of theft by fraud against me. There are others. I am not the only one. I would suggest that you try to verify your dog's actual DNA and get your own health certifications done before breeding him. He is beautiful. My apologies if I have offended you in any way.

Beverly Taylor, Realtor
Retired, US Army
redbev2@gmail.com
[protected]

I haven't responded to any of her messages. I really don't want to get into that type of drama. Besides, I don't have any reason to believe that you've done anything wrong by me - or anyone else, for that matter! Just the word of some lady I don't know...

Good luck with that one! Hate that you have to deal with someone like that!

Tracy Gentile

Dec 14 (13 days ago)

to me
No, not a regular picture. They were snapshots of an email screen with the emails you & she had written to each other.

Tracy Gentile

Dec 14 (13 days ago)

to me
Yes. One of them had something to do with Home Again & microchipping...

They sent that to her. All we asked for as the $17.99 in us registering it for the year being most dont do it and the transfer is free. She sent that to us too yelling at us stating she dont know what the heck that is but why are we sending her a screen shot of it, we sent her nothing at all Home Again must have sent that to her. Why would I have her dogs current pic with her info and her vet info on my own account page with them? She is Friggen Nuts!

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msfranklin68
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Dec 28, 2015 10:36 am EST
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This TBC Goldens is covering her tracks. Ms Taylor was notifying consumers of this situation in hopes they would not experience what she has been through. She is not crazy. That breeder Leah or whoever she is, is psychotic. I have seen all the threatening emails. She is stalking Ms. Taylor and so is her family. This is nuts. She is a criminal. Buyer beware. Do not buy from her. I have seen ALL the evidence and Ms. Taylor is 100% right about this lady. She is nothing but a puppy mill not a legitimate breeder. It is not slander when the facts are true. That lady would not be freaking out and reacting in this manner if she had nothing to hide. GO CRAWL UNDER A ROCK AND HIDE YOU ANIMAL.

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msfranklin68
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Dec 28, 2015 10:38 am EST
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By the way lady you are posting someone's private email address on a complaint site. This is not a directory or news source for emails nor are they an arbitrator. You do realize posting a private communication with contact information such as email address and phone number to the public is a criminal offense. It falls under the category of cyber terrorism and cyber bullying; which is what you are you freak.

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msfranklin68
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Dec 28, 2015 10:46 am EST
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and to Ms. Winkler; MS TAYLOR IS NOT A BREEDER SHE IS A CONSUMER. SHE HAS A RIGHT TO COMPLAIN WHEN SHE HAS BEEN VICTIMIZED AND YOU HAVE CLEARLY DONE THAT TO HER! I have seen ALL THE EMAILS YOU SENT TO HER AND ALL THE DISGUSTING AND VILE CONTENT. HOW DARE YOU TREAT A CUSTOMER OR CLIENT LIKE THAT? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU ARE IN BUSINESS WITH A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC FOR OPERATING AS A BUSINESS OWNER. CLEARLY YOU HAVE VIOLATED THAT TRUST AND SHOULD NOT BE IN BUSINESS; NOT EVER! Any more of these communications to her or any more of these posts and I will personally contact the IRS in your state, the fed IRS and the Secretary of State in your state; Consumer Affairs, Better Business Bureau and and local bureau of investigation. YOU LEAVE MS TAYLOR ALONE RIGHT NOW! NO MORE NASTY EMAILS NO MORE CALLING HER THE "C" WORD AND OTHER VILE NAMES DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? Any more of that nonsense and I promise you I won't stop until you are in prison.