firstly they try to sell you either Google search engine optimization or Facebook advertising.. be warned you will not receive either ...what will happen is ...they sneakily attempt to get you on a rolling contract which takes 30 days written notice to cancel by then you've probably already paid a whopping £500 for something that might cost £20 to do your self . These people will then threaten you will all sorts of stuff including personal debt collectors and legal action if you should cancel your debit / credit card ...
these say they work in london have a po box address in london but are really a manchester out fit with 2 adresses
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more info on him to follow...
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Afternoon All,
We would like to take this opportunity to invite any customers, or potential customers to contact us and share any apprehensions. We understand weather you believe this man's lies or not there may be a few doubts. As a well respected organisation we have 1, 000's of genuine reviews from genuine clients.
For the record Mr. Tom Faulkner, after several attempts to reason with you and after a tirade of abuse and insults we find your latest attempt of actually contacting our clients is a new low for you. Needless to say you have been told where to go by at least 20 in the past months as we are getting reports from them venting their frustrations. They intend to form a group and using the internet they can warm people over your malicious, unprofessional and frankly, despicable actions.
We have never made any attempt to denigrate your "business" despite the allegations about you online we have have shown a degree of passion and tolerance. Even when you have spoke of family members of the company directors including insinuated a young girl was void of all decency and a man who had suffered a tragic loss was to be mocked due to a loss of limbs. If you think you have a "credible campaign" you should take a step back. Other members have confirmed you have asked them if you have taken it too far and categorically the answer is yes.
If you did ever have any human decency you have certainly left it behind.
Please take a look Here:
nhs.uk/conditions/Obsessive-compulsive-disorder/Pages/Introduction.aspx
Maybe there is still some hope for you.
With regard to the accusations of "under investigation". This is laughable. It is no secret Tom Faulkner is a regular poster, administrator and general puppet of the owner of badbiz.co.uk. Which SURPRISE SURPRISE! has been shut down indefinitely for lying and making libellous and defamatory statements about business's.
It is indeed true the ASA and trading standards have been in contact with us with regard to Tom Faulkner's accusations.
The only thing is, there was nothing to investigate. I can confirm we have had 20+ complaints all from the same source to the ASA and as yet we have had no sanctions at all. Nor have their being any "investigations" we have had requests from them in relation to Mr.Faulkners complaints. That's all.
I quote the ASA word for word when they speak about our organisation. Not put a spin on a fact not give a mis-leading idea about the complaint procedure. But QUOTE THEM:
There was an advert made which stated: "AVOID this company is a scam "
After a GENUINE COMPLAINT THE ASA TOOK ACTION. YES THE ASA TOOK ACTION IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA PEOPLE FAVOUR - THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH NOT OPINIONS. They said the following:
the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim, we considered that that implication was disparaging to the complainant’s company.
You have to admit. after almost 50 pages and 379 negative, pre-meditated accusations and insinuations the ASA have only ever ruled in the favour of the TSMP. Never against them.
The recent screen shots upload by Mr.Faulkner show of all his complaints they are:
"Without the need for formal investigation" I think that speaks for itself.
We invite, and welcome people to investigate us. Or request more information or genuine reviews. As you and the Advertising Standards Authority have already seen we have many happy customers.
What does scam mean? Rip Off? Fraud? No care for the customer?
Do scammer's not scam everyone?
Why can a company have so many customers if it is a "scam" its all or nothing surely?!?!
Anyway we are regretful that we have had to be so blunt about about somebody as everybody is entitled to an opinion. But to mock our receptions who is 19 and to laugh at a member of staff for loss of a limbs shows the level of respect this man has for anyone who opposes his opinion.
We have simply stated facts in the hope that people ### FACTS not twisted words and opinions etc etc.
But actual Facts.
The Facts Are:
Net66/TSMP have thousands of satisfied customers.
Net66/TSMP have been under an attack from a "man on a mission" for 10months
Net66/TSMP have been concluded by the ASA as having no evidence of scamming anyone EVER!
Net66/TSMP have provided genuine client information to the authorities to prove its ethical methods of trading and high levels of customer service.
Net66/TSMP have spoken to Trading Standards after a complaint mad by Tom Faulkner and have received tips and advice on how to "refute claims if they are falsely made" (still waiting for a screen shot of that "investigation")
Net66/TSMP have proved beyond reasonable doubt they are reputable.
Tom Faulkner refuses to acknowledge the ruling and advice of trading bodies he has notified.
Tom Faulkner genuinely believes that he is right and we do "scam" people despite reporting us to every single authority and governing body you could imagine
Tom Faulkner needs to face facts and admit he is wrong about us a company
Tom Faulkner should apologise to the man he has laughed at who tragically lost fingers many years ago and insinuated he may have lost them due to dishonesty. (A test of a man's pride Vs decency)
Tom Faulkner should accept in all the time he has made repeated accusations and claims he is the only one left reiterating his own points, none of the relevant governing bodies or authorities have concurred with him and the reason that is that Net66/TSMP does NOT scam people. Yes having thousands of clients there has been a handful who were aggrieved, and dis-satisfied (generally receive a refund or a special offer) customers. But as as a large company with thousands of clients it has an interest in providing a good service. Even if not every single employee all of the time makes the right decision the companies objective is to do long term business with a good service at a fair price.
Again, it is with regret that it has come to this stage but we have tried every avenue to clear our name with Mr.Faulkner and it is with no other option that we have to be frank, blunt and as defensive as we have.
Although weather you fully believe neither ourselves, nor Mr.Faulkner you have to admit the ASA who's job it is to police advertising have only Made 2 adjudications on our company. Both in our favour due to lies and insinuations that were not true. What cant speak cant lie as they say.
Public Relations Chief Executive
Net66 Web Services Ltd
Also,
Brian Martin, could you confirm why your employment was terminated from us as we have all the legal documents and 7 witness as to why. We also have cctv of you turning back up to one of our premises in an attempt to be violent towards staff.
Is this what you class as a "business" there is no record of you at companies house.
I have never seen an SEO company who claims to be "fast growing and hughly successful" actually advertise on gumtree: http://www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/seo-sales-consultant--croydon/90007847
Yet on http://myonepage.com/BlinkBrian you describe yourself as "Managing Director, Blink-Group"
Managing Director Of what Group? A group of Who You?
Anyone else confused. Me Too.
I feel any company going out of it's way to source bed reviews of companies in the same industry and then try to denigrate their business with negative comments is a not a person to be listened to. It show a lack of character and seen as though this individual was relinquished of his employment status by us if he did want to get back at us he could do it by becoming a real business and genuinely competing.
Google "SEO in Manchester" Brian you will see almost 20, 000, 000 companys fighting for top spot. Not little towns like croydon. On you running solo blog you accused us of targeting "non-competitive" keywords.
"SEO services croydon" gets a full total of 0 searches a month. Thats 0. Incidently exactly the same as your "company" and your opinion is worth.
There is a GENUINE company Called BLINK SEO LTD
WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS NO ASSOCIATION TO THEM AT ALL. HE HAS COPIED THEIR COMPANY NAME AND AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE THEY PROVIDE A GOOD SERVICE WITH SOME DECENT RESULTS.
There is a GENUINE company Called BLINK SEO LTD
WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS NO ASSOCIATION TO THEM AT ALL. HE HAS COPIED THEIR COMPANY NAME AND AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE THEY PROVIDE A GOOD SERVICE WITH SOME DECENT RESULTS.
It's been asked before by another company. We did register our domain three months before they did. We target Croydon SEO Services as only a lead generation means. We can again be found for 'London SEO Services' and yes soon 'Manchester SEO Services' all part of our lead generation program.
There is another company of the same name, but they came much later after me, around six months, although they registered their domain three months after. We also provide different services, they are content writers, I'm a online reputation management and search engine optimisation consultant.
I'm going to give up on this thread, with Tom McVey and his accounts talking to himself all day the thread is beginning to become out-dated and full of McVey speaking to himself with his many accounts.
I notice Kat has had a promotion Public Relations Chief Executive. It's a shame that there is no such department. I've found on Gumtree that The Social Media People and Net66 have been advertising for sales people. As I lived in Manchester I know alot of people from East and South Manchester and some of North too. I've been able to place my friends in their offices at interviews to see exactly who works there. Needless to say of course Kat doesn't exists and much of the office is the same from what I've been told.
I also don't employ sales reps, I only have the one sales consultant for your information and he is based in France.
Oh well, who cares! I can't be bothered typing on this forum no more. The facts as said above, nothing is coming of this, just repeated content, people like Tom F presenting the facts through print screens and Tom McVey with his accounts defending himself. The fact that he uses sales consultants and ensures they're signed up with in a 12 minute conversation means that he's got the credit card details before any company can find out more information about them.
I HAVE RECENTLY RECEIVED A CALL FROM TOM FAULKNER ABOUT MY DEALINGS WITH NET66. THIS COMPANY OWNS SOCIAL MEDIA APPARENTLY. HE HAS CALLED AND TRIED TO PUT ME OFF USING THEM AND SENT ME AN EMAIL ASWELL.
I TOLD HIM WHERE TO GO.
I HAVE USED THIS COMPANY OVER 2 YEARS AND FIND THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOUR ###. YES TOM ###.
IF YOU HAD REALLY BEEN SCAMMED TRADING STANDARDS WOULD HELP. AS FAR AS I CAN SEE THE COMPLAINTS MADE TO THE ADVERTS AUTHORITY HAVE ALL GONE AGAINST YOU.
I THINK YOUR ARROGANT ATTITUDE IS PATHETIC. IF YOU HAD AN OPINION WORTH LISTENING TO THEN YOU WOULD NOT LIVE IN A TINY COUNCIL AND WORK ALONE. AND LIVE ALONE AS EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOUR PATHETIC ASWELL.
I AM SO ANNOYED I HAVE HAD THIS ARROGANT MAN WASTE MY TIME TAKING IT UPON HIMSELF TO DO A FICTITIOUS INVESTIGATION AND SPREAD RUMOURS ABOUT A COMPANY WHO I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE CARE ABOUT ME.
THE WORLD NEEDS TO RID OF THIS MOANING COMPLAINING CULTURE.
I AM GOING TO WASTE SOME TIME IN RETURN AND HOPE EVERYONE READING THIS DOES ASWELL
HAVE A LOOK:
TOM FAULKNER
87 Wickhurst Road,
Portslade,
BN41 2TE
[protected]
CAR REG:
HY06 XLD
I MYSELF WILL BE COMPLAINING TO THE DSA ABOUT THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THEY ARE APPROVING AS I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CALL EVEN MORE INFURIATING THAN A SALES CALL.
PLEASE PM IF YOU HAVE HAD THE SAME CALL AND ARE ANNOYED. IM NOT SAYING NET66 ARE AMAZING. THERE WORK IS DECENT BUT THEY HAVE NEVER SCAMMED ME AND WHEN I COULDN'T AFFORD A PAYMENT ONE MONTH THEY LET ME OFF. I DID THE SAME WITH SKY AND THEY DID NOT LET ME OFF! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SCAM AND A COMPANY WITH AN UNHAPPY CUSTOMER!
I HAVE STREET VIEWED 87 Wickhurst Road, Portslade, BN41 2TE ON GOOGLE
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=PRACTICAL+ROAD+SKILLS+BRIGHTON&bav=on.2, or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp., cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=933&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
I CAN NOW UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE ANGRY MR.FAULKNER - A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FAILED IN LIFE. THEY ALL DO NOT GO AROUND TRYING TO RUIN OTHERS.
It is obvious that Tom Faulkner and Blinky Brian are competitors.
Ramelle hasn't done his/her homework.
Tom Faulkner is already acknowledged by Net66 - the very company under fire - to be a dissatisfied customer, and not a competitor (a driving instructor?! So there can be no doubt that Ramelle got his facts wrong.
IF Ramelle has any genuine interest in the appalling business practices of Net66 he/she might care to weigh the evidence. He/she may not like what I write - that's his/her privelage - but the truth revealed by the genuine, but highly flawed documentation of Net66 is there for all top see.
Isn't Ramelle at all concerned about Net66 telling premeditated lies to readers and customers?
They are there on this forum, and in the documents, and in the recordings.
EVEN IF competitors were commenting here, it doesn't change the facts that Tom McVey, Neil McVey and Grace McVey run a dishonest enterprise..
TSMP / Net 66 - Still On Your Case - Tom McVey - Grace McVey - Katrina - Give Me Info Or I Will Take It - Clive_Wilmot - HelloNet66 - camilla4785 - Stand Up Citizen - Serial-Blogger - Stephen Jackson - heliotropious etc. etc. and now ' P*ssed of at underhand tactics'
More aliase! All used to try and conceal the true identity of TSMP / Net 66 in an attempt to use their age old tactic of 'smoking mirrors' to muddy the waters. All in the hope that people will be blinkered and unable to establish what other disgruntled and scammed individuals think of the TSMP / Net 66 consortium.
Sadly for them, Tom McVey's ego is such that he genuinely believes everybody else are stupid! Umh that really works. lol.
have been in court over the last two months fighting net66 and succesfully won.
there are four web guys and tom, neil, dave, stacey, grace and a room full of sales people that only sell seo and facebook. net66 has been given a large fine and ordered to pay compensation to ourselves.
Sad to see Net66 digging itself a bigger hole and having to spend even more money on attempting to make itself look bigger.
In the last three days the Net66 / The Social Media People Facebook Profiles have gone from 153 up to 2000+ now they have a facebook fan page with 2000 people and with no user interaction.
Build a following through helping and providing a quality service, not through spending £9.99 on 100 Facebook likes. 80% of the new 'likes' on their Facebook page are from the Middle East.
Perhaps we'll see a new office in India soon.
Glad to see that Tom McVey sometimes agrees with others. Even if the other is himself. I did find one where he's debating with himself. Can't find it now. It was interesting and funny to read.
Don't believe my last upload worked.
Hey Net66,
Found this on Fiverr for $5 you can have REAL people provide you with a video testimonial. You can now add real people to your lies for only $5.
http://fiverr.com/anythinganthony/create-an-awesome-video-testimonial-for-your-product-or-service
I have recently signed up with them and now very worried. We repeatedly said over the phone before we agreed to go ahead with the ad that we only agreed to a 30 day contract and we posted our letter terminating the contract after that 30 day period the day we signed up. I am worried now because thinking about it since, they never asked me about where the ad was to land to once clicked. So I looked them up and found this. Can I cancel a future payment with them with my card company? What can I do? I emailed a few days ago and got no response just that they were busy coming up to Xmas. No ad has be sent to me and havent seen an ad when I have been on facebook. No links from facebook to my site. Very worried. What do I do?
Can someone please advise what if anything I can do? If this isn't a genuine offer and I have cause to worry at this stage-not because I read these comments-things have happened since I agreed to do the advertising which caused me concern so I went online to find out a bit more about them.
I said on phone that I did not want to continue contract past 30 days. I also posted a letter that same day to the address they gave me to cancel it going forward and the card holder also requested that no further payment were to be deducted from the card. Is that enough or can I do anything more? Can I contact card company to advise I do not wish to have any further payments taken?
Smeireland, send a copy of the letter by Recorded Delivery so you'll have proof of the day they received it. Then if they take more payments, your card company will be able to cover you and claim back the payments.
Good Morning Tom F and Brian Are you still in bed with the ultimate scammer Steve BadBizz Jones AKA Stephen Moss. Are you both REALLY that ignorant. What do you think of the name change. Weird, unusual, suspicious. Why would a grown man change his surname. Running from a criminal record.
Hi Tom F, Please look up the word surname in the dictionary. Why would Stephen Phillip Moss move to the USA and return some 14 years later as Stephen Phillip Jones. Please Tom, if you answer only one question this week, answer that. How many 30-40 year old MEN change their last names and WHY. And Tom F, do you only hate people that scam you. Are you ok with scammers as long as they dont scam you. WHY. Why would you align yourself with someone like Moss Jones. Havent you read his other crybaby sites. Remember when he post a bank statement showing he has some 700, 000 or 800, 000 in his saving cheque account yet he claims that edwin coe destroyed him financially over a mere parking ticket. How could anyone feel sorry for you Tom when you only care about yourself. If you really cared about other people and saving them from a scam then you would refuse to add legitimacy to Moss Jones and Badbiz Badbizz..
Tom F, You say you want to prevent new customers from being scammed by SMP. Fair enough, honourable even. Thats what good people do when they are scammed...they try to help their fellow man from falling into the same trap.
THAT is why I am so appalled that you would tout and introduce unsuspecting people to an even bigger scam ( ie Stephen Phillip Moss/Jones).
YOU have the cheek to act like you dont believe all the info offered up on SKSBCM Moss Jones, yet the info was gleaned from Moss's OWN WEB PAGES. These are not simply my opinion, they are Mr Badbiz's OWN WORDS and VIDEOs. His brother is David Moss. Steve calls him his brother in his rant against Birmingham Midshires after their mother died. He posted his letters to BM on his Badbiz site. His children have the Moss last name (ie SURNAME). Why would you pretend not to know that the guy changed his name to Jones. NOW, why do you suppose he would do this? Change his last name somewhere around [protected]?
Tom F, you exemplify the Law of Unintended Consequences--In your zeal to help save people from SMP you expose them to an even bigger risk- Stev Moss Jones. Is this ethical? I dont think so. Thus, poor victim Tom F could care less about other people getting scammed ( not a question of IF but a question of WHEN) after hooking up with Stav Moss Jones.
Tom F--I called the USA number and it is disconnected. It is the correct USA code for State NewYork, and the correct first 3 digits for NewYork City, BUT the number Is disconnected. This is unusual and suspicious, especially when considering SMP provide Advertising. How can the SMP direct customers to YOU (the purchaser of advertising) when they misdirect their own potential customers.
Tom F Poor defense of Stephen Moss Jones name change using the Pope as an example. The new Pope ALWAYS takes a new name. Therefore, using true logic, it is neither unusual nor suspicious. The same could be said for LADY GAGA. We all KNOW why she changed her name, because thats what pop artists/singers/actors do. So why does Stav need a "stage" name. Why did a non-celebrity, grown man, with children, change his last name? Who is he trying to hide from? What is he trying to hide? Hiding a criminal record.
Please answer me this TOM F- If it can be proven beyond any doubt (you decide) that Stephen Moss Jones is a convicted criminal, and I am talking SERIOUS offenses, committed as an adult, convicted and sentenced with time served, will you still recommend and contribute to his web sites?
Tom F Reverts to type and cannot answer one simple question. Why Tom? Would your answer make you look bad?
If you will answer the previous question with either a YES or a NO (the question about criminality, remember YOU get to decide if the evidence is valid, )then I will answer one of your YES or No questions. Sound fair? You like fair right Tom. But you must answer the question before you get to see the evidence. Obviously I won't share the evidence if you admit up front that it will not make you waiver in your support of Badbizz.
I called the USA number and posted my findings even though it was against SMP. I just don't understand you Tom
Do you HATE SMP MORE than you LOVE the truth? All truth? You want to help people avoid a scam? OR is the truth that you know what a degenerate sociopath Steve Moss Jones is, BUT you don't care because the psycho is on your side.(For Now)
Tom F if you only knew how close you were dancing to the fire that is Steve Moss, you would run for the lake.
MY PREDICTION-- Within one year Steve Moss will have 2-3 websites built against YOU Tom F. Because he is a snake that has turned on everyone who has ever loved him.
Youv’e got to be suspisious about Camilla4785 when the posts always just slag off people, and she removed all the old posts of hers which she did in August. Why was she worried about them? Even then all the posts were just the same and never stuck to the scammers called Social Media Peaple.
Can Camilla answer a question. If you know that SMPs office in America isn't real, because you checked and said it here, why not accept that all the customers who say SMP is a scam are right? I was one and I got scammed. I tried to talk to SMP in the messages here, but they never answered anything.
If you want to have a go at someone else do it somewear else. It looks like Camilla really is SMP.
Yet another mistake. Well, they do keep making them.
This has got to be the crummiest company I have ever come across.
Fathering children to speak openly like this on public forums what does one expect.
Social Media Experts? Anti-Social-Behaviour experts perhaps better explains their business plan?
Absolute disgusting.
One should had gathered from their static price strategy it could only had been a scam.
Tags: Net66, The Social Media People, Gregory McVey, Tom McVey, Stacey Flemming, Neil McVey, Mother McVey, Dave McVey,
I'll re-post some of the lies and rubbish previously put up by by The Social Media People on this site, so people can see some things they had removed.
Lets put The Social Media People's very 1st complaintsboard.com post from around 19 April 2011 back online – just for the record. The Social Media People - in it’s very own words -
"PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON A COMPANY YOU MAY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT:
My Name is Steven Jackson, I am a customer service Director employed by The Social Media People, and I have researched all of these claims and found no evidence to support any of them.
We are Launching a Blog on our Website for CLIENTS NOT COMPETITORS to give honest reviews based on experience.
In fact, if you visit our website you can see the clients we currently have on board, in line with the ASA regulations, it is illegal to claim affiliation with any companies that may not be associated to you. Ask yourslef this:
DO YOU THINK A COMPANY THAT IS A SCAM WOULD HAVE CLIENTS SUCK AS: SUBWAY, REVOLUTION, BAIRSTOW EVES, MENKIND LTD, BAGUETTE EXPRESS & EURO DEBT? NEITHER DO WE, THATS WHY WE LIST THEM!
The facts are all of the previous reviews are written by competitors. It is no co-incidence that we, shortly after these posts were listed, began to recieve many many many emails & offers from "reputation managment" companies.
With a little research we have found a lot of connections from complaintsboard.com to these companies & its no wonder they never check any reviews as they just want paying to get the off the google listings.
WE ARE LAUNCHING A BLOG & REVIEW CENTRE FOR VERIFIED CLIENTS - THE ABOVE COMMENTS ARE LIES!
If you still have your suspicians check this info out: http://www.zimbio.com/Exposing+Scams/articles/GKoWvawaAXB/ONLINE+EXTORTION+consumer+sites+Complaintsboard
or simply google: "complaintsboard.com extortion" & Inline with our policy & advice please do your research, do not read 1 comment & form an opinion, look at what has been posted in factual terms ie. backed up with evidence.
Generally we appreciate customer feedback, and welcome it. We resent with passion fraudulent libelous comments & information posted on extortionists websites online and will fight them, if not just for us, for the good of every single hard working business person out there.
We welcome any questions queires or feedback anyone may have, just get in touch:
The Social Media People UK Ltd
Office 404, Floor 4,
Albana House, 324-326 Regent Street
London W1B 3HH
Telephone: [protected]
email: customerservice@thesocialmediapeople.co.uk
web:http://thesocialmediapeople.co.uk/UK.php"
Message ends. That’s the rubbish and lies they wrote when customers 1st started exposing them.
What a crap company!
I have been duped into their scam by inadvertently rolling into their contract which can only be cancelled by post though they provide services online.
Has anyone taken these guys to their local county court?
By law they must provide evidence of the "verbal" contract entered into either by writing or by a recording of the call. Has anyone requested this as i am about to.
If anyone has taken this matter further I would much appreciate a response. They have failed to respond to a number of emails sent to them. Companies like this should be more heavily regulated and shut down.
Dear oh dear.
Is this company still going?
This is a most unsatisfactory state of affairs.
The Social Media People’s early posts on this forum. 2. (Net66)
Just for the record, below is the full post written (but later removed!) about 20 April 2011.
The original rant includes the address/contact details for one of TSMP’s customers and another company’s lawyer. I have removed just those details (*/*/*/ edit */*/*/) to data-protect the people concerned – something which TSMP clearly had no concerns about!
(TSMP was however careful to remove the name of its own recipient of the legal letter to protect itself! – Typical!)
The post shows that its claimed ‘big-name’, ‘blue-chip’ client was very unhappy at being illicitly linked to the scammers at TSMP.
(NOTE: ALL the grammatical and spelling errors are as originally written by the Director of TSMP.)
The post reads as follows:
“ 7 days ago by Steven Jackson - 0 Votes
In response to yet even more false allegations, we can confirm we have conducted successful marketing for a Subway® Franchises, I will post content from an email directly from then as reading an above email may seen as if we have insinuated to work with a company that we dont - CERTAINLY NOT.
We have had contact with Subway® Head Office in USA and are exploring ways to discourage all competitors from contacting them for refernces & wasting their time. This probably will see the removal of the subway logo as we hhave 1000+ views a day to our website & a lot of people are wasting their time.
It seem people still do not want to take us at face value so I will give an explination & back up with the necesarry evidence:
Here is correspondance with Franchise world Headquarters LLC who own & look after Subway issues.
I AM FORCED TO SHOW CONVERSATION BETWEEN US & THEM TO SHOW PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW US AS THE ETHICAL COMAPNY WE ARE:
Subway-FWH_Letterhead_2010
Dear ******,
Even though you have worked with SUBWAY® franchisees, . I would appreciate if you could ensure that no further communications are sent out to SUBWAY® franchisees and that the logo is removed from the website within one week.
If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me at **********@subway.com.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Very truly yours,
(*/*/* lawyer name edited out */*/*) -Attorney
International Legal Department
Franchise World Headquarters, LLC
IT SEEMS MANY OF OUR COMPETITORS DO NOT LIKE THE FACT WE WORK WITH BIGGER FRANCHISEE ORGANISATIONS IN THE WORLD ANY ARE CONTACTING EVERY SINGLE BRANCH MAKING DEFAMATORY COMMENTS & ALLIGATIONS.
Again anyone who is unsure about using our service, give us a call, we can provide you with success stories & give you an insight into the company we are & the success you could have if you were a client.
AS FOR THE SECOND COMMENT:
(*/*/* customer name edited out */*/*), you were showwn proof of you ad & received your detailed Facebook Analytic report detailing the success of the trial. What was said by you word for was " I am going to tell my credit card company I didnt authorise the payment and just claim it back if you wont refund it, there is nothing you can do" - This is FRAUD, we ran a successful campaign that you did see! and had the report to review.
I will now list all details for all HONEST business people to review:
This is cpoied & pasted from our CSM system to show pour initial contact:
Entered by 2011-04-14:
Welcome call made and saved
Compliance call made to: (*/*/* customer name edited out */*/*) 2011-04-14
Time: 2.30
Call Number: (*/*/* customer phone number edited out */*/*)
The above details the initial contact we had, the below shows a fast & efficient turn around & proof of add:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Your Facebook Advertisement : (*/*/* customer business name/address edited out */*/*)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:30:35
From: The Design Team
To: (*/*/* customer email address edited out */*/*)
Hi (*/*/* customer name edited out */*/*),
I can now confirm that your Facebook advert has gone live.
Please see the attached file which shows you what your advert looks like when it is displayed online.
*Please note, this displays the preview only and does not show your website link that WILL be displayed when your ad is live.
If you have any further enquiries please don't hesitate to get in touch with your account manager at customerservice4@thesocialmediapeople.co.uk.
Best Regards
The Design Team, The Social Media People
imap://tom%40net66%2Eco%2Euk@mail.net66.co.uk:143/fetch%3EUID%3E.INBOX%3E6535?part=1.2&type=image/png&filename=*/*/* */*/*_Preview.PNG
(THE ABOVE IS THE PREVIEW OF THE ADD FOR THE CLIENT TO SEE)
Unfortunately we are forced to go to these lengths to prove our integreity, but will stop aat nothing.
The Social Media People UK Ltd was established by a Father & Son partnership over 12years ago and the honesty, integrity and ethical business practice is as prominent today as it was then. We will challenge anyone who tries to give the wrong impression about our company as it something that we take very seriously.
The facts are, yes, any on can do Facebook advertising, anyone can build a house. There are ways to maximise campaign potential & gain optimum results that only an experienced proffesion could obtain. This is why we pay proffesionals to assist gaining results, we all know people with driving lisences but most of us pay someone to teach us. Its the way business works, experts in their feild can bring added value & better results. This is why we have 12, 000+ clients.
Our results speak for them selves and so do our GENUINE client reviews.
PLEASE DO NOT READ FALSE COMMENTS FROM AN UNVERIFIED SOURCE LIKE THE ONES ABOVE. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE SOME ACTUAL CLIENT REFERNCES WE CAN PROVIDE THEM ON REQUEST, COMPETING COMPANIES & PEOPLE WHO DECIDDED THEY WANTED A REFUND WE KNOW ANY SENSIBLE PEOPLE WILL DO THE APPROPRIATE RESEARCH, WE WELCOME THIS, AND AGAIN WELCOME ANY HONEST ENQUIRIES OR REQUESTS.
Steven Jackson The Social Media People UK Ltd
(Customer Service Headquarters)
Office 404, Floor 4, Albana House, 324-326 Regent Street
London W1B 3HH
Telephone: [protected]
email: customerservice@thesocialmediapeople.co.uk
web:http://thesocialmediapeople.co.uk/UK.php”
That’s the rubbish and lies TSMP wrote when customers 1st started exposing them.
What a crap company!
I have actually contacted watchdog today as I am having all of the same difficulties
I am at stalemate at the moment but are seriously considering legal action and a claim for compensation for stress
I hope someone somewhere has won against these people if you have please contact me with advice of how to put the rats back in the sewers where they belong
LOL! Quite the smack down your boy Stephen Jones Moss got in court for harassment of Edwin Coe employees. The judge could barely contain his disgust. I guess the croprolalia defense didn't work. Talk to Steve-o lately? HaHa. I bet not. Hummm, wonder where he is and when he will be released. Come to think of it, you're treading pretty close to harassment yourself Tom.
Another early post from The Social Media People – ‘for the record’:
Here is the full post from The Social Media People from around 6 May 2011 (its 3rd post on this forum).
The post was later removed along with many more of TSMP’s contributions. They must have been SO ashamed about them!
(ALL the typos, grammatical & spelling errors are as originally written by the Director of TSMP.)
The post reads as follows:
“Steven Jackson 0 votes
FIRSTLY, PLEASE BE AWARE WE HAVE CHANGED THE CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER RECENTLY, WE CAN NOT GET THE SAME NUMBER, BUT WE HAVE GOT IT TO BE JUST 1 DIGIT DIFFERENT.
Thank you everyone for pointing out slight errors.
Admittedly there was a few errors in there, which I make no excuses for. I was running high with emotion when I have written stuff on here as it is insulting to be dealing with some of the accusations.
I may also state our father & Son partnership owners actually began trading 12years ago, although
NOT as The Social Media People Ltd (UK). Again this was my earlier typo error.
I have liased with Mr & Mr. Mcvey & they feel disclosing too much information is counter productive as many business they have ran over the past decade have been registered to theirt home address, and some people on here seem to have a real issue with them, and anyone reading these comments would agree the last thing you need is to be worried in your own home.
* WHILST I UNDERSTAND SOME APPREHENTIONS MENTIONED, I MUST SAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO MAKE US LOOK LIKE THE SCAMMER WE WERE INITIALLY CALLED. WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROVE OUR HISTORY, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IT THEN FAIR ENOUGH, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION.
As previously mentioned we welcome any contact and feeback from customers/potential customers.
FAO: runaway6
I welcome you to give us your company details so I can look into this in more detail.
Although I have to add some feedback initially for clarity.
1. We NEVER EVER EVER claim to be from Facebook. If you Identify yourself I will happily post a manuscript of the call in question and/or allow you to listen to the call on the proviso you put right that allegation.
2. The sentance: "Money was extracted with the promise of an advertisement, which if it ever existed, certainly did not make its way to Facebook" is a direct insult to our integrity & I will do all in my power to prove it did. After all I can, we have nothing to hide, hopefully you will not either.
3. Why would we, let alone anyone threaten Fraud when you "tried to cancel the agreement". Again any proof of this action on the basis of what you have said is welcomed and will dealt with fairly, as is everything at our company.
Again, untill you reveal your true identity I am unable to post all the details to prove you wrong.
May I also add, it is delightfully refreshing to see some sense posted on one of these forums rather than people saying
scam, fraud etc etc. just because they believe they have had a bad experience.
WHEN WILL PEOPLE STOP MAKING ILLEGAL & RIDICULOUS ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD SCAM WHATEVER ELSE JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN OPINION - The answer, sadly, probably never.
The problem is, especially with what we do, is people lie when they have a bad experience to insinuate that they have been the victim of misleading trading practice. If you think that if you should be entitled to a guarantee of business when you pay for advertising then you should shut down your business. On the same note, if anybody ever guarantee's advertising to work, ignore them. Nobody can, EVER. We do not and never will lie to customers.
We offer an advertising service. It is fantastic, direct targeted marketing at its best. Having said that, anyone who knows anything about business will understand advertising doesnt work 100% of the time. Don't get me wrong most of our clients see an amazing return on investment. With over 12, 000 customers, 1 or 2 people claiming to be unhappy is a testament to us, our products and our dedicated customer service team.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TRY TO INSULT THE INTEGRITY OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA PEOPLE WILL BE PROVEN WRONG.
PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE OPINION WITH FACT!
As previously stated we are going to be working on a forum for actual clients to share feedback and opinions about us, our services and our trading practice's. All narrowminded liers who try to insult our integrity will be named, shamed and we pursued accordingly to the severity of the allegations and/or comments.
AGAIN WE WELCOME ANY CONTACT AND FEEDBACK FROM GENUINE PEOPLE WITH GENUINE ENQUIRIES, FEEDBACK OR APPREHENSIONS ON USING OUR SERVICES AFTER READING BOGUS REVIEWS & OPINIONS CARELESSLY POSTED AROUND THE INTERNET.
Steven Jackson
The Social Media People Ltd (UK)
(Customer Service Headquarters)
Office 404, Floor 4, Albana House, 324-326 Regent Street
LondonW1B 3HH
Telephone: [protected]
email: customerservice@thesocialmediapeople.co.uk
web:http://thesocialmediapeople.co.uk/UK.php” - ...Message ends.
That’s the 3rd TSMP post, still full with rubbish and lies; written when customers 1st started exposing them.
The Social Media People’s (Net66) early posts on this forum. Number 4.
Once again, ‘just for the record’, below is the full TSMP post – its fourth. This time from 11 May 2011.
The post was later removed along with many more of TSMP’s contributions. TSMP must have been SO ashamed about them!
This post followed the first one from Tom Faulkner a few days earlier. He'd just registered on ‘Complaintsboard’ saying he was an ex-customer, willing to have TSMP expose details of the way their business had been conducted.
Instead of taking the opportunity to show him up, TSMP confirmed he was indeed a customer; and launched an attack, but provided no supporting evidence.
Unedited TSMP post 11-05-11( As always, ALL typos, grammar & spelling errors are as originally written by TSMP's Director TSMP):
"Steven Jackson 0votes
To All,
As previously stated, earlier comments on here have been written quickly whilst tensions were high, and on reflection could of maybe done with more planing and a thorough check. Having said that, my, and the companies number 1 prioty is existing customers. This is what takes up most of our time and to be honest coming to this forum to defend ourselves from ridiculous comments is not as important as deailing with, and assisting any of our customers questions or queries.
Tap in to google most of trusted and/or household name and the word complaint on google & you will find a complaints.
As previously mentioned, when you have as many clients as us, you are bound to have a handfull of unhappy ones.
I can not stress this enough!
It pleases me that the only valid complaints against us are of a grammatical nature. Again, even though I speak for the company, I am a human bieng, and guess what, we make mistakes occasionally. I could list errors on other post on here, but that is not the point of my response. I am meirly trying to get the truth out there about us and grammatical mistakes are not as relevant.Yes, there is 1 or 2 accusations, but we are yet to see any proof.
May I also re-iterate:
IF YOU HAVE A GENUINE ENQUIRY OR ARE UNHAPPY WITH OUR SERVICE I HAVE LISTED OUR CONTACT DETAILS YET AGAIN AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP. IF YOU ARE A GENUINE CLIENT YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT MANAGERS NUMBER ANYWAY.
THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD WRITE A VAGUE, ACCUSATORY COMMENT ON HERE WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE IS TO TRY TO DEFAMATE OUR COMPANY NAME, AND TO BE HONEST I SUSPECT MOST OF THESE COMMENTS ARE LIES AND/OR COMPETITORS MAKING STORIES UP.
Now, whilst I would like to sit and respond to these comments/accusations/requests more regularly, Hobby Horse is correct, I am a busy man.
We have a large customer service team and and many, many clients to stay in contact with. Our existing customers are much more important than anything else to us as a business and I will NOT jepordise our level of service for anything, so my responses will be limited.
Lastly, and rather worryingly, we recieved a call today from an annoymous individual who knows Mr. Tom Faulkner . Mr Faulkner also has commented on here as "Elemental" (he has admitted to this on a recorded telephone call & neglected to mention it on here for some reason. To read his post, it's as if its his first involvement) .
It transpires this individual may be somewhat dangerous as we have had Numerous clients ring to say they have had contact with him and I'm sure by the sounds of it, he will have been contacting members on here. Whilst I am happy to do my best to ensure everyone's experience with us is the best humanly possible, and I may get frustrated with ignorance when expaining certain aspects of business, we would never take anything personal.
After all, in life people disagree, It seems this individual may actually be obsessive. The caller also forwarded me to a group on Facebook called "Faulkner Fans" which can be found:
https://www.facebook.com/?q#!/group.php?gid=31152303899
on which there is many young men, maybe jesting, but commenting on various things. I am not making any insinuations as to the integrity or the credibility of this individual, I am merely warning people and presenting facts for you to initiate your own opinions.
It seems he has ruffled a few other peoples feathers in the past with his actions, and whilst we are pursuing this individual for legal reasons if he is contacting any members on here, I would advise you do not meet this person, as we have had some information brought to our attention by a local man who knows him that is cause for concern. (although we are only passing on information that may or may not be true. The Social Media People Ltd (UK) has no opinion and would not wish to commit lielous stements about any individual and/or company. After all libel is a serious offence and comes with VERY large penalties.)
He may seem to be getting his integrity well and truely tarnished, but he is the only person to consistently question our integrity, both with comments on here and over 50 emails & phone calls to date. I cant seem to find any information on companies house for this company. Also there is whats know as unethical anchor text on the website: http://www.practicalroadskills.co.uk
I am delighted a forum such as this exists. Have fallen into the snare of a different UK based company called Stormmedia myself a few years ago. As a result, every time somebody contacts me regarding web based advertising I hear alarm bells ringing. Glad they did this time too. - Phew !
I for one have never defended the SMP. I just didn't rally against them because the threat of Badbiz Badbizz Stephen Jones Moss is a much bigger threat to the public than SMP. Not to mention, It really made me angry that TOM F in his zeal to attack the SMP was giving legitimacy to the biggest con man I have ever had the misfortune of meeting. Basically, Tom F gets ripped off so screw everyone else. He pretended to care about other consumers--horse manure! He only cares about himself. He aligned himself so fully with Moss that after a while, when efforts to get through to him failed, I started thinking---GOOD! If somebody is going to get ripped off, well, , , lets just say it couldn't happen to a better person. Tom F you are responsible for exposing many an innocent person to a criminal with a criminal record who masquerades as a savior to the downtrodden! For shame Tom F! You didn't investigate Badbiz any better than you did the SMP. So, Tom F resign yourself to a lifetime of scams because you seem incapable of discerning promise from reality.
Tom F As I said above, resign yourself to a lifetime of being scammed because you are not able to think intelligently. You got scammed by the SMP and now you are setting yourself up to be scammed by your new buddy Stephen p moss Jones (as well as anyone else who follows your advice and seeks help from Badbiz).
The funniest thing is that you have labeled ME as the social media people. That how truly daft you are. Once again, you think you KNOW something that do Not know. That's called incurable ignorance Tom. When you don't know, and you don't know that you don't know. Incurable. You can't fix what you don't acknowledge.
How ironic--you think I am SMP but I am not, while you think Steve Moss Jones is a consumer activist that helps people when the reality is that he is a con man with a criminal record. I don't know about you Tom, but I DO NOT knowingly associate with Criminals. You do. Say it Tom. Taste how nasty it is to say to yourself out loud-- I, Tom F., like to associate with criminals. SAY IT! SAY IT! {and just for humor imagine I am yelling at you in the voice of Sam Kinison).
Tom, I neither hate, nor despise you. Those are too strong of emotions for someone I have never met and never spoken too directly. I just think you are an idiot and that you are leading others into the lions den that is Stephen P Jones aka Moss. Again, with unabashed ignorance, Tom you assume to know who I am. Hey Tom, here's an idea. Anybody who reads your evidence against SMP would likely conclude you were scammed...so why not post the evidence that I am SMP. Tom, please, show at least a shred of evidence that I am an alias of the SMP. But, hey, don't forget when I made the international phone call and confirmed a previous phony number SMP was using. How does that jive with your assumption? I remember another little movie you could use a lesson from...(ANYONE who can name the movie with get a High Five from me, a little US flick that propelled Sean Penn to fame) Never ASSUME anything! When you assume there is the potential to make an AS* out of U or ME= ASSuME.. FYI the Kinison reference came from Kinison's cameo in a Rodney Dangerfield flic---I don't know anyone with even a scintilla of humor who does not laugh when teacher Kinison goes off on an ignorant student..thats why I though it a good reference for you Tom.