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Buyer Beware,
I had a terrible experience with Wunderfolds. Scottishfold Cattery.
The Owner Ginger Troutman-Pains located in fort mill, SC, wunderfolds@gmail.com is the worst kind of cat GREEDER $ . She'll sale you cats with joint osteochondrodysplasia, ear-mites and ringworm fungus and try and make you think that's the norm in the cat breeding world. Upon further investigation from other clients of hers who say they have had similar experiences, basically she is no more than a cat mill who has no concern for her cats, kittens or the family's lives she's ruined with her awful backyard breeding practices. she does ZERO health testing and has falsified documents to provide to try to create smoke & mirrors. Of course she deleted and blocked me after I made her aware of this situation. My intentions were only to provide her with a heads-up, so other families wouldn't have to absorb unnecessary vet cost as well as heartache. I truly was devastated about the matter, but I understand these things happen and life isn't perfect my primary complaint is that she finds this method of breeding acceptable.
By the way, she has breeding partners as well as family and friends do her reviews so you feel confident with making a purchase. Please do your homework & don't be fooled by this southern common criminal / crook.

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Jan 24, 2020 9:59 pm EST
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Hi Gretta! Wow...you are so funny. This is the exact review your clients came to me and told me about and since we brought this to light you want to make fake reviews? Please post your documents, signed contract and vet proof as I've never once had a person contact me with these issue...but anyone can find several reviews about Lifes a Beach cattery and these issues.

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Jan 24, 2020 10:39 pm EST
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THIS IS A FAKE REVIEW. Gretta Griffin from Life’s a Beach Cattery is upset because she is finally being exploited for her cat mill from kittens DYING and constantly sick with problems because of her negligence and greed for money. LOOK AT THESE REVIEWS from actual clients. Ginger Pains has no association with any of these complaints and this fake review whatsoever. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM GRETTA GRIFFIN. Please report and share these stories as breeders like her need to be stopped. It is disgusting that she can continue to make a profit while these innocent animals suffer at her hands.

Life's a Beach Cattery — kitten breeder

Life's a Beach Cattery — scottish fold kitten

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Cats101
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Jan 24, 2020 10:57 pm EST
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This complaint is bogus and belongs with Life's A Beach Cattery as everything within it applies to Gretta Griffin! SHE sold me a kitten with osteochondrodysplasia, ringworm and ear mites and I have the vet statements and bills to prove it! All Ginger did was show me what an ethical breeder who cares about her cats actually looks like.

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Catmom79
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Jan 24, 2020 11:03 pm EST

I am neither a breeding partner, friend or family of Ginger Pains, but I know that the person leaving this complaint, Gretta Griffin of Life’s a Beach Cattery, is a very unethical breeder who is selling sick kittens to unaware families and having them sign all their rights away by signing a contract waiving their rights under the Florida Lemon Law. Several kitten buyers have had to euthanize their 4 month old kittens because they were so crippled and sick and suffered severe Osteochondrodysplasia which should never occur in a kitten that young. She’s now attacking anyone who calls her out on her despicable breeding practices because she fears losing all the money she makes on these poor cats. Please beware and stay away from Life’s a Beach Cattery!

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Jan 24, 2020 11:17 pm EST
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Gretta from “Life’s a beach Cattery” is not only a animal abuser, a thief, and lier but a fraud. I Have seen 3 different women in the last few days come forward about the abuse and neglect at Gretta’s House. She is very angry and bitter her secrets are unmasked. If you have any doubts message the women who were affected by her. What she is doing is wrong and needs to be stopped. Thank God for wonderful breeders like Ginger who advocate for these innocent babies.

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Jan 24, 2020 11:47 pm EST
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THIS IS A FAKE REVIEW. Gretta Griffin from Life’s a Beach Cattery is upset because she is finally being exploited for her cat mill from kittens DYING and constantly sick with problems because of her negligence and greed for money. LOOK AT THESE REVIEWS from actual clients. Ginger Pains has no association with any of these complaints and this fake review whatsoever.

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CatLover73
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Jan 26, 2020 9:11 pm EST

This is rich coming from a so-called "breeder" who has perpetrated ALL of these complaints that she listed on her unsuspecting buyers.

I have not known Ginger or her cattery to send sick cats home with buyers, instead erring on the side of caution to ensure kittens are healthy to the letter of the law.

As far as I'm aware, Ginger has never sent a kitten home with mites, ringworm, or OCD. She's never handed a sick kitten to a buyer from a nebulizer. And she's certainly never left a piece of a feeding tube in a kitten.

She most certainly hasn't sent a sick kitten home with a signed health certificate even though veterinary records show the same kitten being treated with antibiotics. And, above all, Ginger doesn't make you sign your rights away when you sign her contract.

The complaint here then is clearly false and fraudulent.

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Cats101
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Jan 26, 2020 9:32 pm EST
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More proof that Gretta Griffin posted this fraudulent complaint: see her little "greeder" comment within the complaint? Now look at her website...same comment...not a smart one are ya?

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Jan 26, 2020 11:42 pm EST
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Gretta is unhinged bc the innocent people they have been affected by her abuse and negligence are coming forward. Another kitten sent home clearly neglected and sick. Gretta left a feeding tube in the kitten later the kitten needed surgery and died.

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Jan 27, 2020 10:03 am EST
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Gretta has also edited her contract to state she doesn't cover ringworm and that is totally normal for a kitten to have that. Ringworm IS NOT TOTALLY NORMAL and I've heard it is extremely difficult to clear and can easily spread to humans as well as other cats. I heard this from my rescue friends, as I have never had a kitten with it and would not consider it a normal thing to have. Funny how she wants to call me a greeder when in the one instance I had an issue, I immediately refunded thousands of dollars without a second thought. Needless to say, I didn't block the customer and ignore requests for refunds. THAT is what a greeder does. I mean, how do you even lose a feeding tube in a kitten and then think it's ok to sell it without telling the customer? THAT'S what a GREEDER does.

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Jan 27, 2020 5:09 pm EST
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This is a fake review. Gretta Griffin from Life’s a Beach Cattery is upset because she is finally being exploited for her cat mill from kittens DYING and constantly sick with problems because of her negligence and greed for money. Look at these reviews from actual clients of Gretta Griffins. Ginger Pains has no association with any of these complaints and this fake review whatsoever.

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Deeblondiee
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May 25, 2020 4:34 pm EDT
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I, too, have received not 1 but 2 sick kittens from Wunderfolds. This Breeder (Ginger) has already resold the first kitten I returned to her after I told her the cat had issues. She has resorted to bullying and harassing me as I am now dealing with the second kitten's illness. Everything from me being a liar, having unrealistic expectations, to having an overpriced and unqualified veterinarian! The facts are: she is not only selling sick kittens, she is reselling them and keeping $650 deposits. When she resold the first returned kitten, she asked me to ship directly to the new owners without having him examined because, I can only assume, she didn't want proof? She then gave the new owners my personal information and now they, too, are now having issues and are called me to discuss! This is the most unethical Breeder I've come across in a life-long history of cat ownership. Today she said she was "done with me" and "so was the new owner's with the now sick kitten"! Note: I asked her specifically not to share my personal information with anyone. She is obviously trying to make me responsible as a mere purchaser. History is as follows:
Placed 2 deposits almost a year ago for 2 male folds. Received text that they were born on 12/24/19. Was so happy! Ginger sent me photos of another kitten - not mine! Upon receiving paperwork all birthdates were conflicting, and she had different names for the Sire and Dam. Little bit of a red flag. Pets arrived via pet nanny appearing sedated with red eyes. One kitten had a syrupy stain on his chest, and one had a much larger right eye. I thought, ok. She knows what she's doing, hopefully. I was able to observe both cats while under quarantine alone without visitors or any other household members (2 months total, 1 for the first returned kitten) My "unrealistic expectations" were to receive 2 healthy kittens. I received 1 who had behavioral issues, visited litter box every few minutes, then wouldn't leave the litter box at all, aggressive to the point of biting and drawing blood (me and the other kitten), tongue hanging out and drooling, scratched the cornea of the other kitten, and territorial to the point of not allowing letterbox use/food to the other kitten (I have 2 litter boxes). When I brought this to Ginger's attention, she was quick toter defensive and to blame me and asked why my overpriced vet didn't prescribe meds! She quickly came to the conclusion that the cat only had anxiety and wanted me to put a kitten on Prozac! I said I wasn't committed to caring for a sick kitten, whatever the sickness is, and I returned for a partial refund ($1500). Again, new owners having same issues and Breeder is blaming "poisonous shoestrings", and me for his health when she didn't appear to properly check the kitten before shipping him out for another fee! Heck, I have no idea if the pet nanny didn't deliver directly from me to the new owner? Now I still have the brother. He's always been timid and very slow. I thought it was the aggressive brother, it was not. His larger right eye is now cloudy and protruding from internal pressure and may be blind; left cornea is scratched (2 different eye drops x 2 daily); has a temperature of 103, has gastro issues (diarrhea), weighs the same as he did upon arrival (he's not growing); lethargic to the point of my having to put his head near his food bowl so he can eat; constantly shakes his head and scratches both ears (checked for mites), and is fragile to the point of preferring to be carried vs walking. I'm told all signs point to FIP, but won't know for certain until we do invasive and expensive tests to rule out other issues tomorrow. I'm told Herpes, Toxoplasmosis, FIP, etc., etc. Vet agrees that Breeder is selling sick kittens and I should return him, too (I'm scared she will resell again and another person will be taken advantage of). He's a Vet, a very well established one, and I shouldn't be asked to get a second opinion when I can see for myself that 2/2 kittens came to me sick. This Breeder has been reported to TICA and I will follow-up on the process of making certain that all facts are provided to ensure they are aware of my situation. My attorney has started research on her and her business to determine if he needs to get involved in making sure others, like myself, are not taken advantage of, bullied, name called, forced to feel responsible, etc., when we are innocent pet loving clients who are allegedly supporting a business that is in the business to sell and resell sick kittens. My sympathy goes out to all those who have come into contact with this Breeder and others who profit off poor breeding and business practices. Latest contact with Breeder says she doesn't want anything to do with me because I have called her out on her unethical practices. I will update as soon as I receive further documentation tomorrow. I am a confirmed purchaser of 2 male folds from Ginger Troutman-Pains in SC

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Deeblondiee
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May 26, 2020 3:30 pm EDT
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Buyer beware wunderfolds scottish fold cattery - sc breeder ginger troutman-pains

Update as promised (see last post) from 2nd opinion regarding 2nd sick kitten purchased from wunderfolds, sc. now at 5 months, received with enlarged eye and lethargy. kitten has profound granulomatous anterior uveitis - both eyes; secondary glaucoma - right eye (can't see and will likely require eye removal). suspicious for feline infectious peritonitis (fip). temperature is down today, eating normally, bloody loose stool has returned, and seems to feel safer in litter box. given drops (oral and eye) for both eyes to receive pressure caused from viral infection. cat is lethargic, won't play, and is still constantly scratching ears and shaking head. has yet to gain weight although eats 1 can wet food daily/dry food overnight. drinks well now, didn't drink much to begin with.

To recap, ginger told me "you have unrealistic expectations; you're a liar, your vet is overpriced, you are embellishing the truth, you don't understand kittens, and the classic... you are the only one i've ever had an issue with." this is the result of my sharing the comments and evaluations of 2 professionals, as well as my opinions based on a lifetime of cat ownership.

I requested the return of my 2nd sick kitten today after providing ginger with the latest results and 2nd opinion as requested. i've yet to hear back.in the meantime I reached out to her pet nanny diane, and she informed me that she would not be assisting me with my second return because I shorted her $50 on the last kitten return (I planned on returning both kittens but just couldn't part with the little guy so I told the nanny at the airport it was only $300 given only 1 cat and she didn't have an issue). I asked why I was just now hearing about this and she had nothing to say other than "we took it on the chin"! obviously, ginger has refused to accept the 2nd cat back but has offered (via diane) that I drive to nc and meet ginger (same lady who has harassed, bullied, lied, and accused me of basically fabricating sick kittens). contract states that they will accept returns but do not have to refund money until they sell and/or die. again, if you read the above complaint, she's already resold my first sick kitten (read above comment... she gave out my personal information to a male stranger who is now calling me with same sick kitten issues!) and I can't bear to allow her to resell another sick kitten for profit. i've spent thousands already, have been subjected to her lack of responsibility and all the name calling and bullying I can handle. I am now required, after ruling out other diseases, to do invasive testing on a new kitten who is in pain to prove ginger is allegedly breeding and selling/reselling kittens with known defects.

Please do your homework! I realize buying kittens online is not the safest way to go, but since scottish folds are not bred everywhere, you may feel you have to settle. all fold breeders aren't bad, but when you read the checklist for a bad breeder and this one ticks most all boxes, stay away! the complaints you see here, including mine, are not fake. that's the breeder protecting her cash cow of a business that is not in the business to deal with anything other than breeding (if she is even the actual breeder), shipping (and obviously they are in this together... allegedly), but nothing after-the-fact that might prove something may be wrong with her cats. why would anyone want to return a kitten? why would anyone lie about receiving a sick kitten? why would a breeder dispute the word of not one but 2 reputable dr's? why is a breeder defensive to the point of ruining your eever waking moment while you are dealing with a sick cat? because they are not in this for the good, only the money!

Heartbroken, under duress, and lost for words to describe feelings. please excuse typos! I am certain to hear back from this breeder as she sends me harassing emails daily to the point of having to turn off my phone due to stress.

I just wanted 2 cats : (

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Cats101
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May 26, 2020 4:14 pm EDT
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I can't speak to your complaint here but the original one is 100% fake. Gretta Griffin from Life's A Beach/Claws in the Sand Cattery posted it trying to get back at Ginger.

I'm sorry you've had issues with your kittens.

I'm a victim of Gretta Griffin (who actually changed her name to Maggie on Facebook and her cattery name to Claws in the Sand to disassociate from the many complaints she was receiving). Those words in the original complaint are totally hers.

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May 26, 2020 4:48 pm EDT
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Looks like Gretta Griffen is back with a new fake name and stories. She’s still selling sick kittens and changing her cattery name. Poor Ginger only tried to defend these innocent lambs and had been harassed and made up lies by Gretta. Lady your unhinged and all your animals should be taken away.

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May 26, 2020 4:58 pm EDT
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Below, we have screenshot proof of everything she has falsified. We have her saying boys checked out well and I had no word from her until early May requesting to return Nico due to behavior and lack of socialization. Never a word about poor health. She verified vet said healthy at delivery and at last check up, , on both kittens. She anticipated a full refund of him, which is nothing any breeder would ever cover. I felt her claims to be false when she said you need to follow them around for one month to notate the issue. Regardless, I took him back and found a new home, and sent her a refund minus her $650 deposit. Proof below. His new owners are thrilled with him and constantly message me to tell me how awesome he is.. no sign of aggressive behavior toward his sister that will bat him in the head with no retaliation on his part. He arrived in fine health and as said, no report of ill health on either cat. I did let her know her claims were crazy once the new owners verified there is no problem.
Nico got sick on day 2 in their care, which can be normal for the stress of all the rehoming. The new owners reached out to her to question if any issues, because clearly me saying he had balehavior issues had to be a lie, and she said no health priblems and went on about his bad behavior. Nico was vet check, lab work and xrays with new owners and nothing was found wrong and vet said it could be him chewing their leather shoestring or ingesting something he shouldnt. Proof from new owner statement below.
I believe them contacting her when admittedly she asked her info blacked out set her off. I tried to download the vet records and would not allow me to, and wanted no more contact with her to get her to resend, so I forwarded her email. She has since emailed me, , demanding nothing short of $5k refund with no proof of any testing done to verify other potential causes. We have already settled up on the rehoming of Nico and I do not cover vet bills or transport. She was given and told to activate health insurance and if she did not our contract is void anyway, but I'm willing to work with her regardless, but nothing above a refund if the kitten dies of a genetic issue or fip and MUST be proven by necrospy.
She has stated she does not want to care for sick kittens and I'm gravely concerned for this kitten and have offered to arrange and pay a courier to pick him up myself, since my flight nannies also refuse to work with her. She shorted them $50 last time. It is very apparent she will not check into any further possibilities for his supposed illness (I have a hard time believing her due to the behavior issue case) and he has only been treated for eye issues. If he were so ill, I'd have blood work and labs to show, but I believe she hopes he dies to get a refund and am even concerned she may be causing this whether by abuse or neglect to get testing to determine what is wrong.
Again, we have offered to pick him up via courier (my expense) and I would like to get him into my vet for proper testing. No refunds will be given until this is resolved and proof of the supposed issue seen. Apparently, nothing less than 5k will make her happy, and I cannot do that because all proof from her mouth shows I sent her happy healthy kittens, she lied about behavior issues, and therefore I cannot trust her with zero lab work done in this case with all the falsehoods.
Not sure what Darlene's problem is, but she is clearly crazy and is not wanting these kittens to eat into her Luis Vitton addiction. Screenshot below.

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May 26, 2020 4:59 pm EDT
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Upon delivery healthy ss

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May 26, 2020 5:00 pm EDT
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Her saying you must follow the kittens for a month to see the behavior issue.

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May 26, 2020 5:01 pm EDT
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New owners saying he could have ingested something:

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May 26, 2020 5:02 pm EDT
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Her verifying good health right before taking the 2nd kitten back:

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May 26, 2020 5:03 pm EDT
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Proof of my flight nannies saying she stiffed them:

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May 26, 2020 5:04 pm EDT
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Proof that she never told the new owners Nico (ernie) had a health issue as well as them saying they spoke to HER vet and he was NEVER seen for any issues.

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May 26, 2020 5:05 pm EDT
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More proof that the issue she had with first kitten was purely behavior, which is insane. The kitten is super docile, sweet and socialized. Per the new owners as well. They are thrilled with him.

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May 26, 2020 5:06 pm EDT
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Proof of refund minus non refundable deposit on Nico, which is totally not a refundable issue.

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May 26, 2020 5:07 pm EDT
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Proof of my offer.

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May 26, 2020 5:08 pm EDT
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Proof new owners see no issues with Nico/Ernie.

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May 26, 2020 5:16 pm EDT
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I did not keep your $650 deposit. The new owners paid me $1150, which was refunded to you for a non refundable issue. He was not sold for full price 2 months after you took him home and he has zero issues, verified by your own emails and vet.

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May 26, 2020 5:20 pm EDT
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regarding the sire and Dam names...We call Rumfold Mort Thunder and mom is Andikorus Teffi, but we call her Dolly or Dahlia. Those were names registered by the original breeder before we got them, and everything is laid out on the website with registered names vs call names. I told her she can cross reference the website when she questioned that and she seemed satisfied
It looks as though TICA (or I) transposed the DOB by a few days, and is nothing of detriment to their health. DEC 21 VS Dec 24.

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May 26, 2020 5:39 pm EDT
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More proof of me pleading to take the kitten back by paying a courier out of my pocket to get him (since she does not want to see me) to get the testing he needs to determine what issue there is since she refuses to do the testing needed.

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May 26, 2020 5:58 pm EDT
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Multiple times asking her to please send him back at my expense so I can get to the bottom of the issue.

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May 26, 2020 5:59 pm EDT
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More telling her I'll take him back since she refuses to look into the supposed issue. I say supposed since the other kitten is perfectly healthy and social.

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May 26, 2020 6:07 pm EDT
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I actually had to block her email as she has harrassed me and threatened me for half a week causing severe stress and inability to do nothing but debunk all her lies via her own emails. I am offering to go above and beyond what the contract she signed states, and have already done so with the nonsense return of Nico. Nothing will satisfy her other than a full refund of over 5k, on things contractually not covered at that, because she had to take her kitten to the vet. She had stated after having my kittens that she was not suited to have to pay vet bills, and had i known prior, she would never have been in possession of our kittens because NO breeder can assure absolute perfect health, even given our genetic testing and very long client list of happy clients. I truly believe she wants out, will not test for any other possible issues, wants the kitten to die in hopes of a refund, but won't get a necropsy if he did and still demand reimbursement of all costs. We have a contract which is to protect both buyer and seller, but she does not believe it applies to this Louis Vitton VIP drama queen.

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Katie Katniss
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May 26, 2020 7:19 pm EDT
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This seems very obscure to me.. Ginger is amazing I have purchased 3 beautiful kittens that are now fully grown adults from her and are the sweetest and most healthy cats I’ve ever seen “I’m a Veterinary Assistant “ . I love them so much I have already purchased another kitten as a gift for my Mother-in-law 🥰.. I hope you see the error in your words of malicious intent towards a wonderful and caring breeder that always puts her cats and kittens needs above her own. Do the right thing and let Pasha go back to Ginger .. In my experience as a veterinary assistant people that hold themselves in such high regard such as yourself care little about their animals and treat them as possessions and it sickens me.If your malicious false claims tell me anything it’s that you are the greedy one and not Ginger.

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May 26, 2020 9:55 pm EDT
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Photo of the kitten within a week of leaving me.

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May 26, 2020 9:56 pm EDT
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Email once they arrived home. No mention of any concerns.

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Meredith Hughes
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May 28, 2020 5:53 pm EDT

Ginger is an amazing breeder and upholds the highest ethical standards. I picked up my kittens from her in person and was amazed by how clean she keeps her cattery. She was very professional from start to finish and has an excellent health guarantee with her contract.

I also have friends and family members who have adopted a cat from her and they have all had a great experience. I was referred to her and have referred others as well. She is always there for us and we stay in contact through social media.

It is clear that this customer is objectively vindictive and trying to fabricate her story to maliciously harm Ginger's reputation. Based on the documentation Ginger has provided, it would be well warranted and justified for her to sue this person for slander.

Knowing Ginger and several others who have had a great experience with her, I see this customer as abusive, entitled and completely unreasonable. Especially seeing how Ginger has gone above and beyond to accommodate her. It looks as if Ginger is going way above and beyond her contract or what any other breeder would be willing to do to help this "Karen" out (No offense or pun to any nice or decent person named Karen, ftr).

Too bad this"Karen's" story is completely debunked in her own writing and in her own emails, exposing her many malicious lies beyond any shadow of doubt. It takes a truly sick person to try and destroy someone who is clearly willing to help them, when it is clear that this is based entirely on lies.

Upon reading through the screenshots of the emails and seeing what really happened, this looks more like a case of extortion, as well as slander, to which I will strongly advise Ginger to take legal action.

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Susan Saify
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May 28, 2020 10:22 pm EDT

If I had not walked into the Wunderfolds Cattery and seen the conditions myself, I may be swayed by these allegations, DeeBlondie. However, we went in to pick up two kittens from Wunderfolds last year and were floored by how well cared for these animals were. Ginger's whole world is these cats. She has transformed her home into a thriving environment for these cats. The whole place is full of cat trees, play towers, toys, and most importantly, LOVE! Her entire family takes care of these cats, including her children. This is why these cats are so friendly and social when they go to their forever homes.

We have 2 girls and they tote these cats around like dolls. These cats have never hissed, or scratched or harmed my kids. They have been delightful through a home renovation, where they were displaced 3 times. They acclimated quickly and never once had an accident.

Ginger sends these cats home with vet records AND health insurance, which you have to activate. If she was such a horrible breeder, there is no way she would do any of this. Our cats went to the vet and they were super healthy. They also have the sweetest and friendliest demeanors; we joke that they are like puddles of water that you can pick up. We literally cannot imagine our lives without these cats and consider ourselves so fortunate to have found this breeder.

If you read the testimonials on the website, they all tell the same story: friendly and socialized cats. I, and many like me have had the same experience with Wunderfolds.

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Shannon Harper
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May 29, 2020 6:21 pm EDT
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I'm going to offer my feedback in the most fair manner possible.

Having purchased a cat from Wunderfolds, I can also agree that my kitten has been exceptional. He is very curious and will lay down on his back beside my feet, demanding attention. He follows me around like a shadow and is always seeking interaction.

What concerns me is that this customer obviously neglected to activate the insurance on the pet, so any vet bills should not be Ginger's responsibility at all. With live animals, no one can ever guarantee a kitten won't get sick at some point, but that's why a responsible pet owner insures their pets, just to be safe. Failure to activate the insurance within 2 days also voids the contract, yet Ginger is still bending over backwards to help this person anyway. Ginger actually sent me my link to activate the insurance through a separate email. There is no excuse for not activating the insurance.

These are live animals, which we take responsibility for upon adoption, unless it is a genetic issue. Many factors in our home and environment can affect a cat's health. FIP btw, is NOT A GENETIC ISSUE, however, Ginger still seems to be willing to refund for this kitten should that even be the case. What's the problem here?

Also, the reimbursement for transportation fees is ludicrous. You chose to pay for whatever method of transportation. She could've driven to pick up the kitten herself. Transportation costs are the responsibility of the pet owner. This was also disclosed in the contract I signed.

IMO, Ginger's responsibility would be a refund for the kitten itself or a replacement, should it be proven via appropriate testing to have passed from FIP, which Ginger clearly was willing to do. Anything beyond that is an outrageous demand, as these terms and conditions were made very clear in the contract. The fact that someone would willingly go out of their way to destroy a very reputable family operation, over their own failure to understand the contract they agreed to & activate the health insurance, is beyond disturbing.

I have to also admit that based on her comment vs what she said in her emails, Darlene is caught RED HANDED in many lies, which I find embarrassing and completely discrediting. The nature of her complaint says more about her than about Ginger. It seems as if Darlene is unreasonable, uncompromising and to attack someone publicly like this based on easily debunked lies is revealing of an extremely narcissistic and cruel nature. Especially given that almost none of the counterevidence supports her claim or justifies her ridiculous demands.

Darlene conformed via email several times that the kittens she received were in good health. She also confirmed them to be in good health when she parted ways with the first one, which was based entirely on another debunked behavior issue claim which Ginger was not even contractually accountable for, but tried to help the customer with anyway.

Verified: Wunderfolds does not sell sick kittens and Darlene Smith is clearly lying.

If you don't like the terms that are disclosed in the contract, don't buy the cat. That's your responsibility. Take accountability, because nobody forced you to agree to those terms, but you did anyway. The contract is far more fair than any other breeder out there. Sorry Darlene, but you are wrong.

Maybe Darlene should find a better way to pass her time than trying to ruin people's lives when her unrealistic, unfair demand are not met, instead of coming to a fair resolution. This speaks volumes about what kind of person Darlene Smith truly is.

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Deeblondiee
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May 30, 2020 9:40 am EDT
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Update as of this morning, 5/30/2020 little Pasha was dead upon my waking at 7am. I am devastated. This week I received testing from a Board Certified Dr. stating that Pasha had the highest titers she's ever seen for FIP. That, along with his glaucoma, blind in one eye, gastro issues, lethargy, no weight gain since pet nanny Diane/Rebecca delivered (I never visited the cattery in Fort Mill, my bad). Ginger wanted me to remove my post as it was a breach of contract, but I never signed the contract. Instead, she has posted my private information online and provided it to strangers/men, who received a flipped kitten (Nikko) claiming that I knew he was healthy (embellished my comment regarding his vaccination receipt where as I stated he had a clean bill of health - I'm no vet, nor was he checked, he wasn't given anything but a vaccination) My bad again - I should have been more clear even though the receipt (the one with my personal information I asked her not to share because I am a survivor of domestic abuse!), was provided despite my asking her to remove before flipping cat. Now, did Nikko have behavioral issues, yes! My comment was, "I am not committed to caring for a kitten w/in 30 days of presenting issues that I cannot explain". Ginger said I should try Prozac on my kitten. I was told by Ginger that Nikko would be checked by her vet prior to flipping homes. She said she "observed him overnight, he was docile (after prior claims that her husband said he was into everything prior to shipment), and that I had "unrealistic expectations". Now I was left with a kitten who arrived cute as a button but had one larger eye, draining more than the other (drainage is normal as I have owned Persians/flat faced cats), so I gave it a month. It got worse and Pasha never gained a pound, all the while getting beaten up (not kitten play) by Nikko, didn't have proper access to litter, of food due Nikko's territorial issues. I had no choice to remove Nikko for various reasons, mainly so I could save Pasha because I suspected something was wrong. I tried to communicate with Ginger but i have almost 100 emails where she has called me every name in the book, harassed me to the point of my having to block her on email and phone just to get a peaceful night rest after caring for the now FIP (98%) testing, gastro issues, and all of the above mentioned concerns. I was also told my life-long vet was "too expensive", was quick to jump to FIP (science, symptoms and all titers point directly to FIP), and questioned the Board Certified Dr! I'm not one who likes to report comments, nor would I ever want to hurt someone's income, however, I feel it is my duty to tell the truth from what I've seen since Pet Nanny Diane dropped off kittens on Marcy 17, 2020. I paid cash and under much duress when returning Nikko miscounted or was confused and made an honest mistake of $50. I offered to pay when I was notified weeks later only when I asked to return Pasha, but then she also turned nasty. I'm sorry for that, but Pasha would have died there anyway, so I'm glad he was with me, and I may have never known for certain if this "common as a cold disease" as stated in the unsigned contract, is 100% conclusive, not that I do not trust a 30 year vet, science, and a Board Certified Dr, plus all their experience with animal diesease, especially ones that are infectious. The last letter received from the Board Certified Dr. states "this virus can be spread via feces in a cattery". I will know today, after autopsy and will also notify the cattery via my attorney, so none of this is ever questioned again, and that my personal information is removed due to my history with domestic violence and always going above and beyond to protect my privacy. I'm not on social media, Facebook, etc., due to this, and Ginger posted my name on her Insta account without my consent. I told her that was not ok and to please remove, she has not. Instead she's plastered my name everywhere, provided my phone number to male strangers (who are calling and texting me, by the way). I also followed all instructions and registered the cat with insurance, micro chip, and tried to register breeder ticket changing to household pet with TICA but their website and my operating system do not cooperate well and I have been working on that with TICA directly. I did want to apologize for anything that may seem misconstrued, but I was and obviously am under duress due to the loss of not only one kitten that was rehomed/flipped, but 2 as of today. I am heartbroken as these guys were meant for my emotional support considering my past domestic violence resulting in a suicide. So, if anyone out there want's to add to my misery, please feel free to do so and know that I take my privacy seriously but have decided today that I am no longer hiding. My attorney will handle from here and shame on you all for supporting something you had no idea of the facts, test results, etc. I've been bullied by this breeder, while dealing with the pandemic, and caring for kittens. I'm not one to share screen shots as a am conscious of privacy issues, nor do I wish to provide my Dr's personal information, but I'm making certain this is on file with Infectious Disease; the Board Certified Dr, hospital, and the vet who treated Pasha. I also sent Ginger copies of everything I received. Since this is Pasha's day, I will continue as I was asked and go through with the painful autopsy so I can at least give him the best send off and provide 100% proof of this rare and infectious disease. Thanks to all those who may benefit from my situation. I am sorry if I offended anyone throughout this process, but it is all painfully the truth. Inclosing, the last article I read on FIP states, "a 1994 study reported that cats with signs suggested of FIP, who also had a high coronavirus antibody level, reduced numbers of lymphocytes and high levels of globulin in the bloodstream, had a 88.9% probability of having FIP." As my Board Certified Dr. stated, Pasha's numbers were the highest she's ever seen. It also stated, "Fatal in more than 95% of cases. Pasha's case was not the dry form, but I won't have conclusive evidence on that until after necropsy. Thanks again for listening. Please do your homework and do not resolve to being bullied by adults in this very crazy community.

RIP Pasha 12/24/19 - 5/30/2020 (although birthdates are conflicting from Ginger's correspondence, breeder registration, etc.

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May 30, 2020 10:08 am EDT
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I've posted my facts and will not continue to respond to her harassment. Anyone is welcome to email me if you have doubts and I can set the record straight. I've not bullied her, yet have been demeaned and talked down to (she said surely a hairdresser can count and said I live in Fort Hick among other condescending remarks) when we only want to try to rectify the situation, but her demands are far more than what anyone will be able to do, and she still will not be satisfied. I have the email receipts to prove how awful she talked to to me and about her kitten, so much that she finally sent an email and made up a story that it was her assistant that had been emailing me to cover up her harsh and uncaring nature. It obviously was not a good look. We finally had to call the police to establish harassment. Again, I'm willing to and have ALWAYS worked out any issues (less than a handful in 5yrs of breeding/30 litters, ) but given the blatant lies and manipulation of a story to fit her narrative(proof given above, ) it is obvious that we are unable to work with Darlene Smith. Which, btw...anyone is welcome to check, I've not posted her name on our IG. Another blatant lie. Screenshot of her crazy story about her assistant to cover up the horrible nature of the previous emails (anyone who read it can clearly see it is the same person emailing.)

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