Central Veterinary Associates [CVA]’s earns a 3.4-star rating from 10 reviews, showing that the majority of pet owners are somewhat satisfied with veterinary care.
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unethical behavior - client no. 74666
My boyfriend brought my cat Lily in to the Forest Hills location 10/3/2018. She was lethargic and hiding out under the bed much of the day before. The vet told us that a number of tests would be run at a cost of about $2000. We agreed to that, and paid most of it before leaving the office.
Next day, we received a call stating that my Lily needed surgery to remove her uterus, and requested authorization for another $2, 500 - with a caveat that 'additional charges may be accrued'. The hospital suggested that I apply for "CareCredit" in the amount of $5, 000, "just in case". I did as requested, authorizing the surgery and requesting $5, 000 limit from CareCredit, but asked that they let me know what the additional charges will be, as is reasonable (please see attached e-mail correspondence).
This was the last conversation about money I had with the clinic, until I got a call last Tuesday stating that the office had my cat back, but that I owed them a total of $8, 394! According to the receptionist, "it's OK - don't worry about it, we got a limit increase on CareCredit" - except I never authorized them to request it!
The receptionist at the Vet's office stated that I "should have asked the hospital how much they were charging me extra" and the only "help" they were willing to offer is a suggestion to talk to CareCredit... although I am not sure what exactly would be the purpose of that exercise. I had no idea why or how CareCredit - when I finally got the card and registered it - has a balance of over $7, 000 - which means that they swindled another $100 from me (if total bill was $8, 394 - $1, 500 they charged before = $6, 894, not $7, 008, which is my current balance on CareCredit)!
I want a credit of at least $2, 000 on my bill, and I want the CVA to return it directly to CareCredit. I will notify CareCredit that that charge is not authorized (as the increased limit was not requested by me), but I'm afraid it's too late since it appears to have been paid already.
This is bordering on fraud, and should be punished.
Thank you
Olga Burke
Veterinary services
I brought my Siberian husky to central vet in 2013 when we had an emergency. He had a seizure and due to it being the first time I had ever experienced it before, I rushed him there in the middle of the night. They insisted on keeping him overnight and running every single test. $2, 000 and a brand new credit card later, I was finally able to take him home. Two months later, same thing, except this time, they had me convinced that he absolutely needed to be on medication. Another $2, 500 later and they started him on phenobarbital. After a couple of weeks of this and doing my own research, I decided to go to another vet. They looked at all his records and asked me why in the world he was on medication? 2 seizures separated by 2 months is not excessive and they were mild. There could also be other factors causing it. But central vet gave me a diagnosis of epilepsy after 2 seizures. How irresponsible is that? We weaned him off all medication at that point and he was completely fine. The bottom line is that central vet will do anything to get your money. I feel like they care, but only to a certain extent. The money is more important than anything else. I learned the hard way.
By the way, what tests did vet number two do to tell you all was well?
Pretty much the way I read this is that money decided whether you believed the first vet or not. When the second gave you an opinion that opposed the first, you automatically believed the second over the first. Why? Because there was $4500 on the line? Or because he told you what you wanted to hear?
What you should do, since you have two conflicting diagnosis (well one since you never said what the second diagnosed) is go to a third vet and get a third opinion.
My sister and my mother's dog both have epilepsy. The cases started out basically the same way. Mild, scattered seizures over weeks and months that progressed into grand mal seizures occurring more frequently. Both, my mother's dog and my sister are both medicated and will be for the rest of their lives. Epilepsy does not just 'go away' and he will not be 'just fine' if he is epileptic.
And while there may be something else going on to cause the seizure, you know more about your dog than any vet who had never seen him before, like vet number one and two. It sounds like you wanted a magic answer. Answers come from tests, and tests cost money.
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STAY AWAY FROM ALL VETS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM!
They pressure you into leaving your pet for care and medication that you can do yourself at home. Be sure to ask if HOSPITALIZATION is really necessary and how it will benefit your pet verses you caring for him at home. Question the need for the TESTS they will surely say you need. Their bottom line is BILLING! One visit to them and you'll see for yourself. The receptionist kept trying to get me to fill out a Credit Card app at 22% Apr - Does that seem like someone who cares about my pet? NEVER, EVER TAKE THESE PEOPLE WORD FOR ANYTHING. THEY SEEM TO BE TAKING OVER ALL VET OFFICES IN THE 5 TOWNS. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY CAN AFFORD TO AQUIRE THESE NEW LOCATIONS? Because of my experiences with these people, when my pet dies, NO MORE PETS FOR ME and I've had pets all my life!
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rude over priced!
HORRIBLE!
THEY ARE RUDE ! OVER PRICE RIP OFF
THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS
I DONT GET HOW THEY ARE IN BUSSINESS
NO HEARTS THE STAFF SUCK!
FRONT DESK LOOK LIKE ALL THEY DO IS SLEEP ALL DAY
THE DOCTORS ARE YOUNG AND STUPID
THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING
THEY CHARGE YOU WHEN THEY CANT LOOK AT THE ANIMAL
THIS PLACE SUCKS
DONT BRING YOUR ANIMALS THERE!
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MANY, READ BELOW AND DONT GO
On June 5th, 2011 i took my vey sick and lathargic 3 yr old to this money hungrey sorry excuse for a 24 HR EMERGENCY VET CLINIC. What we were told on the phone was the OPPOSITE OF THE TREATMENT WE GOT! My mother and girlfriend RACED to this place. On the phone we were told we needed to show proof she had an up to date rabies shot. So the thing on the collar that showed she had her rabies vaccine 6 months ago was not good enough for them so they tried to charge $99 for a rabies shot, they were VERY ROUGH AMD PHYSICAL WITH MY Luthargic, weak, helpless, and PROJECTILING VOMITING BLOOD DOG THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN B4. We feared that out dog had some sort of BLOCKAGE in her and DEMANDED AN X-RAY, to which we were replied with "IT IS ILLEAGAL TO TAKE X-RAY'S IN NY AFTER HOURS, SO YOU SHOULD LEAVE UR DOG HERE OVERNIGHT FOR 24 Hr's for obsevation and we will x-ray 1st thing in the AM." They wanted over 200 dollars for weighing her, and a rabies shot we had evidence she didnt need. the tag on the collar shows exp dates but they said, we could have borrowed another tag to aboid that payment. When i heard that, I immediatly went outside to call the other 24 HR VET in the area and told them the situation, they said to pull the dog out of there IMMEDIATELY, Which we did. BTW, NONE OF THE STAFF HAD ID TAGS ON AND WHEN I ASKED TO GIRL WHO PRESENTED HERSELF TO BE THE DOCTOR, I ASKKED HER TO SEE HER ID AND LICENSE and SHE DID NOT PROVIDE IT. AS a former user of illegal drugs, I def inately noticed atleast 2 of the 4 people working there that were clearly under the infulence. The 2nd place we went to was FANTASTIC! It is actually the emergency center for out regular vet. They saved my dog's life NO DOUBT AT ALL AND THEY SAID MY DOG WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT WITHOUT TREATMENT WHICH "CENTRAL VET ###" WERE NOT GONNA PROVIDE TIL 7AM. NOW MY BEAGLE/LAB MIX IS HOME WITH US RESTING AND MUCH BETTER THAN YESTERDAY. THANK YOU DR. VERRA SERRA AT BRIGHTWATER VETERINARY IN WESTBURY. CLEAN, CARING AND THE BEST VET OFFICE THAT I HAVE SEEN TO CARE FOR YOUR VET AT 12 MIDNIGHT!
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They butchered and murdered my cat, Johnny Cash 2 years ago. I tried to fight. No one listened.
Review: I brought my cat in stable condition, with a urinary catheter, and IV in place, to have surgery to alleviate future urinary blockages (known as a "P.U").A pet mom, with 7 animals of my own, and 7 fosters, my paltry income has been getting wiped out by vet bills. When J.C. fell ill, I originally took him to LIVS.The care is top-drawer, the staff is too.They unblocked him, and he was in good shape, but I couldn't afford the surgery he required, I ran out of credit accepted there, I had to take him elsewhere.Central Veterinary Assoc. advertised they would work with you.They were fine when I brought him in, and opened an additional credit line, The bill was twice what they stated, so I had to increase ANOTHER credit line(both borrowed from a friend.)After waiting the equivalent of an epic movie on phone lines over the following days, I was finally able to visit him. It was HORRIFYING AND HEARTBREAKING!.He was barely breathing, completely dehydrated, drooling, covered head to toe in his own dried urine, and so severly anemic that I knew he needed a transfusion. I ran to get the doctor to point this out. Neither the Dr. nor the techs had noticed this.Then they tried to jam a large ventilator tube down his throat as he struggled, After, when I confronted them on their 'treatment', I was assaulted by a trailer-trash, woman (tech?) with so much makeup, she looked like an Avon truck casualty.Saying I was "In her space" 3 feet away, trying to talk to her, she shouted me down, put both hands on my shoulders and shoved me backward to the cages. I was told JC was on an IV, there was none. That he was being force-fed, there were a few dry kibble in a paper dish in his cage, which he couldn't eat. There was no litter box. His gums, eyelids, normally dark pink, were snow white.He was wheezing, struggling for every breath, No one noticed or cared. He had no E-collar to keep him off his stitches."Go home, " they said, "He's fine.This is normal after surgery.(Surgery was 5 days ago.)"Call tomorrow".Suddenly the older (uncle) Dr. Vine decided he must have fatal Hemolytic Amemia. I demanded his blood counts. Dr. Vine said they had done blood work and his values were "low end normal". They never did blood work.Dr. Vine admitted he had no idea of my cat's status, though he was responsible.They refused to give me his records, threatened to call the police. Then they wanted more money for copies. I called the police. I couldn't leave for an hour. JC couldn't be off oxygen.Basically, after a brutal surgery, they left him to die miserably. Dr. Vine told my friend, "He was dead when he got here".Quite the contrary. He was stable and doing well. They almost killed him.They charged me $6000, at a 33% interest rate. I ran with him back to LIVS. X-rays showed he was so dehydrated and starved, that his intestines had stopped moving ("persistalsis"), filled with gas and shut down.He could not get a needed, immediate blood transfusion (which Central refused, then saying they'd maybe get to).As I write this, I am awaiting his blood counts, and news whether or not he will die, and now going another $2200, into debt to try to undo THEIR damage.I'm being laid off in a couple of days.They also tried to sell me the kitchen sink for my other pets.(Even the phone recording does it.)THESE PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING AND A DISGRACE TO THE VETERINARY FIELD.They should be shut down and jailed, subjected to their own care. As a medical professional, and part of EMS, I know what I see. God help those who don't in a place like this! STAY AWAY! TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW WITH AN ANIMAL THEY LOVE! If they've done this to you, hold them legally accountable! Contact the proper authorities and agencies that govern unscrupulous organizations Central Veterinary Associates. ADDENDUM: JC struggles for his life now at LIVS. He was, in addition to all this, mutilated in surgery. If he survives, he may require another surgery to fix what they destroyed. I am now $20.000 in debt, and may lose my 'teddy bear' because of CVA. They will get what they deserve...
(JC had to be euthanized 3 months of suffering later. They tore him to pieces internally. He suffered miserably. They do this all the time. No one will band together to stop them... pathetic.)
Incompetence, Apathy, Greed
I brought my cat in stable condition, with a urinary catheter, and IV in place, to have surgery to alleviate future urinary blockages (known as a "P.U").A pet mom, with 7 animals of my own, and 7 fosters, my paltry income has been getting wiped out by vet bills. When J.C. fell ill, I originally took him to LIVS.The care is top-drawer, the staff is too.They unblocked him, and he was in good shape, but I couldn't afford the surgery he required, I ran out of credit accepted there, I had to take him elsewhere.Central Veterinary Assoc. advertised they would work with you.They were fine when I brought him in, and opened an additional credit line, The bill was twice what they stated, so I had to increase ANOTHER credit line(both borrowed from a friend.)After waiting the equivalent of an epic movie on phone lines over the following days, I was finally able to visit him. It was HORRIFYING AND HEARTBREAKING!.He was barely breathing, completely dehydrated, drooling, covered head to toe in his own dried urine, and so severly anemic that I knew he needed a transfusion. I ran to get the doctor to point this out. Neither the Dr. nor the techs had noticed this.Then they tried to jam a large ventilator tube down his throat as he struggled, After, when I confronted them on their 'treatment', I was assaulted by a trailer-trash, woman (tech?) with so much makeup, she looked like an Avon truck casualty.Saying I was "In her space" 3 feet away, trying to talk to her, she shouted me down, put both hands on my shoulders and shoved me backward to the cages. I was told JC was on an IV, there was none. That he was being force-fed, there were a few dry kibble in a paper dish in his cage, which he couldn't eat. There was no litter box. His gums, eyelids, normally dark pink, were snow white.He was wheezing, struggling for every breath, No one noticed or cared. He had no E-collar to keep him off his stitches."Go home, " they said, "He's fine.This is normal after surgery.(Surgery was 5 days ago.)"Call tomorrow".Suddenly the older (uncle) Dr. Vine decided he must have fatal Hemolytic Amemia. I demanded his blood counts. Dr. Vine said they had done blood work and his values were "low end normal". They never did blood work.Dr. Vine admitted he had no idea of my cat's status, though he was responsible.They refused to give me his records, threatened to call the police. Then they wanted more money for copies. I called the police. I couldn't leave for an hour. JC couldn't be off oxygen.Basically, after a brutal surgery, they left him to die miserably. Dr. Vine told my friend, "He was dead when he got here".Quite the contrary. He was stable and doing well. They almost killed him.They charged me $6000, at a 33% interest rate. I ran with him back to LIVS. X-rays showed he was so dehydrated and starved, that his intestines had stopped moving ("persistalsis"), filled with gas and shut down.He could not get a needed, immediate blood transfusion (which Central refused, then saying they'd maybe get to).As I write this, I am awaiting his blood counts, and news whether or not he will die, and now going another $2200, into debt to try to undo THEIR damage.I'm being laid off in a couple of days.They also tried to sell me the kitchen sink for my other pets.(Even the phone recording does it.)THESE PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING AND A DISGRACE TO THE VETERINARY FIELD.They should be shut down and jailed, subjected to their own care. As a medical professional, and EMT, I know what I see. God help those who don't in a place like this! STAY AWAY! TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW WITH AN ANIMAL THEY LOVE! If they've done this to you, hold them legally accountable! Contact the proper authorities and agencies that govern unscrupulous organizations Central Veterinary Associates. ADDENDUM: JC struggles for his life now at LIVS. He was, in addition to all this, mutilated in surgery. If he survives, he may require another surgery to fix what they destroyed. I am now $20.000 in debt, and may lose my 'teddy bear' because of CVA.
8-14-10: We visit the vet weekly. Today, two months later, he is still sick, bleeding internally from their butchery. I now have to perform subcutaneous daily dialysis to keep him hydrated. At present, I cannot get him to eat or drink, and is on daily medication, as I struggle to pull him through. I have no doubt, the contraindicated dog vaccines they gave him against my wishes (and charged me for), as well as the ligaments they randomly tore out in surgery didn't help...
Obviously, this vet has his staff watching the reviews posted. I agree with the comment. Due to the treatment I received, this will be my last pet. Central Vet Associates are vultures and really don't care about your pet. Try them and see for yourself. Bet the police will have to be called for you too!
i bet the police had to be called on you...you sound crazy
LETS YOUR PETS DIE BAD VET DR. CHAROS
Central Veterinary Associates RIP OFF ARTISTS BAD VETS JUST WANT YOUR MONEY AND LET UR PET DIE.?
Central Veterinary Associates RIP OFF ARTISTS BAD VETS JUST WANT YOUR MONEY AND LET UR PET DIE. STAY CLEAR OF CENTRAL VETS
http://www.centralvets.com/
THEY ARE LOCATED AT Great Neck, Bayside, Forest Hills, Far Rockaway, Belle Harbor.and valley stream long island ny
has anyone else had a very bad experience with Central vets as I did ?
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VCA IN VALLEY STREAM IS THE WORST EVER!
AGREED!DR.CHAROS IS AN UNCARING RIP-OFF ARTIST. HE CAN CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR PET BUT LOVES YOUR MONEY.THE ENTIRE STAFF IS IN CAHOOTS WITH HIM..EVERYONE SHOULD REPORT HIM AND HOPEFULLY PUT HIS FAT ### OUT OF BUSINESS. ALL THE RECEPTIONISTS ARE FULLY TRAINED TO CONTINUE THE SCHEME DR.CHAROS HAS TOUGHT THEM AND BELIEVE ME HE HAS TAUGHT THEM WELL. THEY ARE ALL CARELESS ###. DON'T CALL A FEMALE DOG A ### JUST CALL ALL DR.CHAROS BRAIN WASHED RECEPTIONISTS THAT.
No I have had experience with Libery Animal Clinic. My dog went in for a routine operation and winded up in critical care in the elmhurst hospital. the vet became unavaible after the operation. the hosptial suggested that the operation that the vet did was not done correctly. The dog required additonal surgery and hospital. I had to put my dog to sleep.
Liberty Animal Clinic...Rip off, Uncaring, Not recommended
overpriced, poor care
I was a customer of this animal hospital for over 10 years. I had two cats (mother and daughter) that I would bring there regularly. When I would bring the two of them for an "annual" check up, the cost would be over $500! As both cats aged, they developed more health problems. One became asthmatic, and everytime I needed to bring her in, tests and medicine ran into the hundreds.
After she passed away, our other cat became diabetic. We had to put her on insulin shots and there were often emergency trips to Central Vets if her sugar dropped and she became hypoglycemic. We became enraged when the vet on duty refused to even look at her until we gave a deposit. The last visit we made there, they charged us a "deposit" of $600! They always kept her a day or two to monitor her sugar, and the bill always came to over a $1000!
After the last time, a friend told us about Westbury Emergency Hospital which is open all night on weekdays and all weekend. It is staffed by veterinarians that work at other hospitals. They would give our cat an injection to raise her sugar, and just hold her overnight to observe her. Needless to say, the cost was a fraction of what Central Vets would charge, and she didn't need to be hospitalized for days.
We now have a new vet who is knowledgable and not money hungry like Central Vets. After reading so many complaints about this facility, I know we made the right decision.
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I love my pet so much, and this place totally plays on that.
Currently looking for another vet. Tired of the manipulation and high-robbery experienced at their offices. STAY AWAY IF POSSIBLE.
Poor Vet Care
I brought my sisters 2 month old pug puppy here in the summer of 2007, The puppy was running around and got very "disorientated" she couldnt sit straigt or stand up. In a panic i brought her to this Slum Hopital. After the exam i was told by the Vet that she would have to stay overnite.. when we arrived the next day absoultly nothing was done.. but i did walk out of there with a bill in excess of $1100.00 They could not find out what was wrong with the puppy but did give me a detail bill of all of the "procedures" they preformed all of which i was not told of in advance. Called to let them know the puppy was still disorientated. After no help from this place I to ok the puppy to Merrick Animal Hospital and found out that the puppy had was hypoglycemic (from all the running around- her sugar level had dropped) the Vet at Merrick Animal Hospital gave her some type of syrup used for hunting dogs and she has been back to normal ever since. It is now 2009 and no prolblems... Central Vet Hospital you are a bunch of crooks!
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poor veterinarian services
took my 9 week old min. pin. puppy to this hospital and was shocked by the Outrageous behavior of veterinarian Karen O. Liss who's acts reminded me of a heartless butcher. I agree that some procedures can be painful for the puppies but first of all, a professional doctor MUST advise of the alternative ways of getting a test done, advise whether or not this procedure is necessary at THIS PARTICULAR time and ask if the owner of the dog is consenting! Second issue with the aforesaid veterinarian is that she seems to be "just doing her job" .
Even a painful procedure can be done gently and with care and that is exactly what I DID NOT see in veterinarian Karen O. Liss!
Needless to say that I changed my dog's vet place same day!
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These negative comments don't sound like the CVA I experienced. I recently brought my cat in because she had been vomiting. They offered me a choice of three treatment plans, 2 in-patient and one out-patient. I chose the out-patient plan because money is tight and I also figured that she might only need an antibiotic, which was exactly the case. The staff were very nice, patient and gentle. No one tried to sell me expensive grooming products or cat foods or products of any kind. Debbie of Far Rockaway
This place is pure evil. They pulled the same thing with my cat, I had to make up a whole story about having to leave town to manage to get him back. They will hold your animal, charge you for service after service, and if you're lucky you'll get your pet back alive. If they treated humans like they do animals everyone involved would be serving long prison sentences by now.
MURDERERS!
This September I brought here my absolutely healthy young cat to give birth at this place. They charged me $5 000! They kept her for the night and in the morning they called me and said that my cat and her kittens are dead. I never got any explanation on how it happened or why. I just received my cat in a carton box and now she's buried on my back yard. I paid them $5 000 to kill my cat. I wish that money brings all the disasters and pain in the world to every single one of the staff responsible for my cat's death! I wish you all the worst! BURN IN HELL CVA!
Hello...I am Shocked by the above reviews...I took my lethargic 2 pound Morkie Lucy in on a Friday night at 11:30...The staff was pleasant and even at that late hour gave us a tour of the facility!...While being in the back all of the pets in their care were well taken care of and happy...Being a clean freak I was also VERY impressed on how CLEAN the facility was...I also like the fact that they finds homes for animals...Like I said I was there on Friday and picked Lucy up on Tuesday and a cat that I loved was adopted...PLEASE I am asking that you form your own opinion and do not listen to the negative feedback!
Debbie D
Glen Cove
I have been using CVA fo the last 35 years. I have brought my many pets over the years and found that they were both attentive and caring. The office is very busy and sometimes gets very hectic, but the level of care is worth waiting for. The front desk people seems to always to know who I am and always are solisitus towards my pets.
charleyatkins55@yahoo.com
They say only the disgruntled give reviews. I'd like to add my two cents that I've been a client of CVA for over 17 years. People I have referred to them have thanked me... the emergency service has been invaluable for several of my family member's pets... But of course, we never sat down to write an online review of our experience... we just went home to enjoy our healthy pets... But now I see the low ratings and it concerns me that a few sour apples can skew the ratio and I wanted to give some 'props' to my favorite team of doctors. They have almost a cult following - just go in there and see for yourself if you're looking for a new vet, or want to compare facilites to your current vet - really - go for a tour, they'd be happy to take you around - I always brag about my vet's office -it's pretty impressive. But I'd go see them if they were in a tent - the staff and docs are, in my opinion, exceptional.
They have always treated me with respect, been open to discussions on the care of my pets and guided me in providing wellness over their lifetime rather than rescues in the latter stages. My mom was always one of those people that didn't think cats needed to go to the vet - thus why when i was a kid we never had a cat for more than a few years... Happy to report my 17 year old handsome man is napping beside my desk - perhaps it's the balance of care he recieves at Central Vets? - the excellent food we buy from them that makes his coat so beautiful? The lack of fleas and all the other 'normal' ailments cats get - we care for him as we do for ourselves and CVA helps us to enjoy long relationships with our pets with low drama.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... sound familiar?
I guess most folks don't realize that there are big differences in the level of care at different vet hospitals. I'm a pretty demanding client and they never let me down... I won't settle for the limited hours and poor santation at most clinics nor will I tolerate the egos or snotty staff I've encountered at other vets in the Valley Stream area... I will not leave my name and number on a voicemail and hope for a call back later or tomorrow- I expect to be spoken to whenever I call - and they do - there is always a doctor in the building and a real person always answers the phone - at 7 am or 11pm or when we had a siezure happening at 4:30am -
I've come to expect a high level of service and professionalism from my veterinarian - my experience with CVA is so much different from the vets I've been to before and that I hear about from co-workers. I'd highly recommend you check them out so you will see for yourself.
I like how the main and opening point from this "CVA employee" states that, and I quote "posting anonymously on a site like this gives absolutely no credibilty to the poster."
(Notice how credibility is misspelled) Then They go on and post Anonymously. Never once do they state their name or who they are, I don't see the harm in posting anonymously but by them calling it out and then going forth and doing it themselves is laughable school yard childishness.
With that being said, To figured out who the "CVA Employee" poster is, one would have to simply take notice of the sheer lack of grammatical abilities coupled with their 5th graded penmanship. This "CVA employee" Must be higher up on the company's ladder.
Reason being is that I have encountered many kind people at C.V.A (granted most of them are in the waiting area) and some of the employees, albeit there isn't many of them, are very kind, caring and sweet people. Its just 99.9% of them are underpaid, overworked and the facility is completely understaffed. The fact is these select few caring employees work for some of the most tyrannical, money hungry, evil people you will ever meet. Some of these "Doctors" (and I'm using that term extremely loosely) pray on the fact that you love your animal and if you are one who considers your pet to be a member of your family, well, if you bring your pet to them your not just your wallet will be broken but, your heart as well. Some of these money hungry dolts and cretins of C.V.A happen to be the owners and or "Partners", Like Doctor Fox who is a complete and utter fool, who has no veterinary abilities whatsoever. The mans lack of human compassion is epic. He cant even interact with his staff let alone with a pet owner. He's one of the most useless human beings Ive even met. The other fool is a Doctor Charros, probably the most inhuman, manipulative, greedy, egotistical, Self-absorbed, no-it-all/no-nothing you will ever encounter. He might be one of the ugliest people to work for C.V.A, if not for his right hand "man" Eleanor, who might be one of the nastiest, uncharismatic, individuals to answer a phone. She has absolutely zero tack or understanding and its to my understanding she claims to be "IN CHARGE". That goes to show the level of insanity C.V.A has going on by putting someone who is a Bi-polar, cackling, lunatic in charge of their business. Just the experience of Having to lower your intellect by explain every little thing to her in a conversation can be extremely unnerving. Having to work for C.V.A must be a difficult task, my heart goes out to its employees who have to deal with these wannabe doctors and utter simpletons. Some of the associate doctors are young and you can tell they still have the "good fight" in them. And even though most of them are exhausted from being abused and working triple shifts, you can still see some of them haven't been changed by the maniacal, greedy ways of the higher ups. Point of my post is to set the "CVA employee" straight and put them in their place and to tell you all NOT TO TAKE YOUR PET TO CENTRAL VETERINARY ASSOCIATES. If you look online you will see tons of reviews and horror story's from pet owners who have made the mistake of entrusting these monsters with their animals.
I was going to respond to your absurd allegations and attacks, but after seeing how you criticized my lone typo with 'credibility' and then went on to write like an ignorant ### with one grammatical error after another, the old saying of the pot calling the kettle black came to mind. Therefore, I will leave your comments alone and allow others to view them and make their own determinations as to who you are, i.e., an obvious disgruntled employee who was terminated most likely for incompetence or some human resource issue. The discontinuity in your missive only demonstrates your level of education and why you do not work for CVA any longer. I don't have time to write much anyway because despite the attempts by idiots like yourself to harm our business and reputation, we are so busy at work that...well even a simpleton can get the point. In reality, the number of complaints like yours, are so insignificant that responding to them is not worth it. Ta Ta cretin.
Zorro's Story
On November 4, 2005, my wife Manuela and I took our beautiful, 10 and a half your old black cat Zorro to a Vet for a 4-in-1 vaccine.
What transpired between those dates is on of the saddest things I've ever had to endure.
I had made an appointment at Central Veterinary Associates for Zorro to have a routine exam and a 4-in-1 shot. He'd been getting these shots (and occasionally others) each and every year. At the time we didn't know better. We were brought into an examination room and were greeted by a doctor's aide - a kid who looked about 20 - who without even examining Zorro was already recommending a new, mite and tic powder that their office was selling. Although we had only booked the 4-in-1 shot, the doctor himself walked in with three things in his hand - the 4-in-1, a rabies vaccine, and Bordatella drops to put up Zorro's nose.
When we questioned him, he said that we "had" to give Zorro the rabies - it was the law.
This may be true, I'm not sure, but the year before Zorro had a 4-in-1 shot at another Vet, without getting a rabies shot. We explained that Zorro was an indoor, only housecat, but the Vet didn't care. He said we had to do it.
Would he had called the police on us if we didn't let him do it? He proceeded to give Zorro the 4-in-1 and the rabies shot; Zorro didn't seem to mind the 4-in-1, but cried when the rabies shot went in.
The doctor started to give him the Bordatella drops but we stopped him, asking what it was and why Zorro had to have it. He said it was to help Zorro to fight off upper respiratory problems and that all cats - especially older cats - should have it. We said that we hadn't booked that, the office staff hadn't said anything on the phone about it (they hadn't mentioned the rabies, either) and that we would wait and think about it. The Vet then said that it would be completely irresponsible not to give it to him, that all cats (even housecats) should have it and that he could see no reason for him not to get it. He shamed us into reluctantly agreeing.
We had never heard of Bordatella before and trusted this man who is supposed to have our pet's best interests, not the all mighty dollar, as his basis for actions.
Did I neglect to mention that he did examine Zorro before administering the vaccines? This examination took all of about 25 seconds - he looked in Zorro's eyes, ears and at his teeth. He quickly took his temperature with a rectal thermometer. There was no stethoscope involved at any time. After the nose drops went in, he started telling us that we "needed" to have bloodwork done for Zorro - the Vet's eyes probably saw dollar signs as he told us that the price was "only" $138. Not trusting him, we decided to wait.
Needless to say, we left not happy with this veterinary office and vowed never to return.
The next day, Zorro was asking a little strange, but we attributed this to him having a small reaction to the vaccines - he was usually a little down a day of two after getting a 4-in-1 shot, so we didn't make out of it.
Over the next ten days, we noticed some very gradual changes. He wasn't eating as well as normal and he didn't have as much energy as normal, either.
Normally Zorro was an extremely playful cat - even at 10 years old - and had a very hearty appetite.
He seemed to be spending a lot of time under chairs, which was unusual for him. He also wanted to be on our 2nd floor balcony a lot; this was as far "out" as he ever got. This was not so unusual, except that now he wanted to spend more time there than usual, strange because it was getting colder outside.
We started thinking he might have a low fever. Then came the strangest thing - he started eating his litter. Not a lot of it, but we assumed that eating any litter at all isn't good and we got nervous.
On November 14, we called Central Veterinary Associates back and told them that we were nervous that the Bordatella, which we never asked for or wanted (not to mention the rabies vaccination) was making Zorro do strange things. I was speaking with office staff who said "absolutely not, there's no way anything we gave your cat could cause anything like that". I asked to speak to a doctor and I was told "NO". They said I could bring Zorro back in and a doctor would have a look at him. I felt like they were just after our money and said that I felt they should be responsible, if something they did caused our cat problems.
They said "cats can always have reactions to things, we're in no way responsible if that happens". I asked again to speak to a doctor and was again told "NO - it's not possible, you have to bring him in".
I complained more and they offered to waive the exam fee but said that we'd still be completely responsible for anything else they did. They didn't even seem sorry about the fact that our cat wasn't feeling well.
I spoke with my wife about it and we decided that not only were they going to try to fleece us financially, but more importantly, based on our initial visit and then the subsequent reaction of the office staff on the phone, we just didn't trust them to give Zorro the care he needed. We asked some friends and called the place in our town called All Creatures Veterinary Hospital. The reaction at All Creatures was completely different. They seemed very caring and had no problem having a Vet call us back - even though we'd never even been there yet.
The Vet called me and after I explained to him what had happened, he said something that shocked me: "I don't know why a Vet would give your cat Bordatella. We don't even carry that for cats - only for dogs. Indoor cats never need it; it's only for cats in catteries or boarding situations and even then it's rare that it's necessary".
I was floored! The Vet at Central told us that "every cat should have it" and now I hear that our Zorro, being a housecat, absolutely didn't need it. I told the Vet at All Creatures everything that had happened, including the litter eating. He said that we could (not that we needed to) bring Zorro in for bloodwork, but that it was his cat, he would monitor him for a few days to see if he got better.
He said that the important thing was that Zorro was eating, drinking and going to the bathroom. I think it is important to say that all through the ordeal - right up to the end - Zorro was as sweet as ever, purring every time we were close to him. We watched Zorro - he ate (though not as much as usual), he drank and he went to the bathroom. On about the 4th day after speaking to All Creatures, he ate a bit more than he had been (still not quite as much as usual) and had much more energy. We truly thought he was getting better. The next day he didn't eat much; we weren't letting him out on the balcony because it was getting colder, we still thought he might have a cold and that the chilly air might be bad for him. He started spending a lot of time at the buttom of the staircase near the door - this was the coldest spot in our apartment. Very, very unusual for him.
We made an appointment at All Creatures. They examined him, thought his breathing might be a little laboured and did bloodwork. The Vet said he thought it might be bronchitis. They called the next day and said that he had an elevated white blood cell count and also high protein levels in his blood. They suggested to bring him in for a chest x-ray and worried that it might be pneumonia.
I wanted to know more about this Bordatella; All Creatures said that they didn't know too much about it because they never gave it to cats. They don't even keep the feline version there - they have to order it when they need it.
I called Central Veterinary Associates back. The office manager - Mary - told me there was no way that the Bordatella or anything that they gave Zorro could have caused any problems. I asked to speak to a doctor, she said "NO".
I voiced my displeasure; she said "if you have a complaint, put it in writing". I said "I need to speak to a doctor - now". She said "I guess you're not too bright, you're not speaking with any doctor - any complaints, put them in writing". I answered "What good does it do to mail in a complaint to you if something bad is happening to my cat - that is ###ed. I feel like going to the media about this". She hung up on me.
I called back and was transferred to Eleanor; she started out very aggressive, telling me that I "spoke with the nice one already" (Mary?) "and now I had to deal with her".
I told her that I wanted to speak with a doctor because the doctor had pushed us into giving our cat Bordatella drops when we didn't want to and now I learned that these drops aren't necessary with housecats. She replied "you sound like an adult and you're having no trouble speaking with me - I'm sure that if you didn't want something you could have told the doctor."
I asked her again to speak to a doctor (isn't that my right?), she said "NO - you have a complaint, put it in writing. Your calls are no longer welcome here" and hung up the phone on me.
I called back repeatedly and was either insulted, hung up on, or both. I spoke with Cathy, Diane, and Aaron, among others. Cathy was as rude as unfeeling as Mary and Eleanor, Aaron seemed indifferent and Diane listened and said the doctor would call back. One never did.
I called later and was again hung up on. I tried again, they said they were calling the police, I said "I hope what happened to my cat happens to you so you know what it feels like" and hung up. This might not have been the nicest thing to say, but at this point I was so frustrated with their attitude and lack of caring that I said it anyway.
A police officer called me later - he seemed understanding. I said I was only trying to speak with a doctor. He replied I was better off not calling anymore and that I should write instead.
In the middle of this phonecall, my wife got home and found Zorro in his cold spot at the buttom of the stairs having trouble breathing. I told the officer that I had to go to bring our cat to the hospital.
We brought Zorro to All Creatures - they took him away from us, told us that he was stable and that they were doing the chest x-ray. They sent us home - they called a little later and said they found fluid in his chest and wanted to draw it out. They also mentioned that he "might pass away" during the procedure. Horrified, we hung up the phone. They called again and said that the procedure went find and that they draw 60 ml out of the chest area around his lungs.
After the call, we went back to see him. He was in an oxygen unit, half his torso was shaved. He also was on IV. He recognized us and began talking to us right away, but we weren't allowed to take him out of the oxygen tank to touch him. The doctor told us that they needed to test the fluid to see what it was and where it came from - another big question was: would more fluid come back?
We said goodbye to Zorro, having no idea that this would be the last time that we would see him alive.
This was the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving; we'd had plans to visit my family in Massachusetts for months. The doctor assured us that Zorro would get the proper care in the hospital, that they'd get the test results back to see if he had pneumonia or bronchitis or whatever it was and that Zorro would get antibiotics if he needed them.
We were scheduled to drive to Massachusetts on Thursday morning. That morning, before we left, we got a phone call from the doctor on duty that the fluid had not come back on Zorro's chest and that he seemed to be breathing comfortably - outside the oxygen tank. He thought it fine for us to go - he had our numbers to give us updates and we planned to pick up Zorro (presumably healthy) either Saturday night or Sunday morning.
Unfortunately, we couldn't visit Zorro on Thursday because the Hospital didn't allow visitors on the Holiday.
We went to visit my family. Friday morning we got a call that he wasn't doing so good and that it could be FIP (this was the first time we heard about this), although it still could be a bacterial infection. If it was FIP, it was probably fatal. They didn't say anything about how fast it could act. We cried and were depressed, but still had hope that it was only a bacterial infection. He was on a broad array of antibiotics, just in case. That night another doctor called - they didn't have any more test results back (because of the Thanksgiving Holiday), but Zorro was still not doing so good.
They'd given him an appetite stimulant; he'd eaten but thrown most of it back up. My wife was devastated. I asked about seeing him when we got home - we'd been hoping to pick him up Saturday night - and the doctor said we could see him but that he should stay there until Sunday.
Looking back (hindsight is always 20-20) we should have left from home right then and there. It was about 9pm Friday night. We didn't.
The next morning the doctor called and said that Zorro was worse - the prognosis was now "guarded". We moved our plans up and got out of there as quick as we could. About half way through the five-hour car ride home, they called and said that he was now very bad and that we should consider putting him to sleep. We wanted to say goodbye to him.
It seemed like fate wasn't on our side; we hit traffic and what seemed like every single red light possible.
We finally got to All Creatures; they told us that Zorro had died 10 minutes before. They brought in his body so that we could say goodbye - he was still warm.
We cried our eyes out. My wife held, hugged and kissed him. I scratched his face in the place that he always loved it. We were (and still are) in shock, devastated, traumatized.
We feel guilty for being away. We miss him so much and feel like we were robbed of one of our best friends.
We have since learned that the vaccinations and Bordatella drops that the Vet at Central Veterinary Associates gave Zorro may have precipitated, worsened or even caused a dormant virus which 80% if all cats have, to mutate into the deadly FIP.
We are heartbroken and stricken with grief. We went away Thanksgiving morning feeling good that we'd brought Zorro to a Hospital, sure that he'd be fine soon.
When we got back, he was gone.
One of the office staff told us that it was better that we didn't see him at the end, that he wouldn't have recognized us because he was so out of it.
I don't know what to think. Did we cause this by choosing the Vet who over-vaccinated him? Is it all our fault?
We would never, ever do anything to hurt our precious Zorro. If he could, would he forgive us? We were only trying to do what was right for him.
Ten days ago, we had no idea that vaccinations can harm a cat. We trusted someone who's job it is to care for our pet. And now we feel terrible.
We will miss you Zorro - forever - and we are sorry. We didn't do it on purpose.
We love you.
Erik and Manuela
Here's a story of Central Vets Cruelty. Its called "Zorro's Story" and its so sad.
Please read it.
http://www.blakkatz.com/zorro.html
First of all, posting anonymously on a site like this gives absolutely no credibilty to the poster. If the poster was an ex-employee of the fore-mentioned practice and can back up all her statements, then posting her name would not expose her to libel since the truth would be her defense. Secondly, most of these types of cowards who post malicious things about businesses online under assumed names or anonymously are just liars who have had bad experiences with the business they attempt to malign mostly through their own fault and actions like neglecting their own pets and expecting miracles for pennies when they finally bring their pets in. I happen to be a present employee of CVA, not one of the doctors, and I see what goes on for years on a regular basis. There are those clients who come in and act with class when they have to spend lots of money even when their pets passes away. Then there are those like the original poster who is obviously a miserable human being who, for whatever reason, obviously has an axe to grind with CVA. I see CVA in totally diffeent light - yes they are a business and have to support the 100 families of the employees who work for them. But I also see how much charity they give out to people and organizations who cannot afford to take care of their own pets. Their hospital is filled with strays and recued wildlife for which the owners don't see one red cent. As for Dr. Charos, he works 7 days a week and is the most involved with all the charitable organizations and he also suffers from lung problems from his volunteering from day 1 at Ground Zero on September 11. But does that stop him from helping pets ever? NO
In conclusion, does CVA charge lots of money for their services - YES. Do they charge more then other practices who are not open 24/7 - NO. Their facility is state of the art and their doctors are all compassionate, caring, and most of all competent.
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