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$250 credit owed for maintnance
The manager, Mr. Bill England, guaranteed credit of $250 to go towards maintenance since I complained that it was too high in March of 2009. It is noted on their records in Las Vegas, Nevada that a credit was owed to me; yet, every month interest rates are accrued. I have repeatedly attempted to get it resolved, to no avail. I have Mr. England's voice on tape promising the credit as well. Truly, the Federal Government needs to regulate the Maintenance fees--they are astronomical. We, the consumers are robbed blindly by these avaricious, unscrupulous and unlawful men and women. The fees are not allocated to maintain property because each time I visited my Timeshare something was in dire need of repair. I detect fraudulent acts and mismanagement. Are these individuals using funds to acquire land and build new Timeshare? I was promised last November that if I converted my Deeded Properties to Points the fees would be less because I would be part of a large pool; moreover, there would be no Special Assessment fees--they lied. I received my first maintenance bill since the conversion with an extra cost of $230.00 dollars. HELP us Washington DC and free us from these bullies. By the way, did I mention that my mortgage Interest Rate given by these monsters is 15.99%?
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
scams and fruads
To: Diamond Resort International
10600 W. Charleston Blvd.
Las Vega, NV89135
Scams and Frauds
From: John E. Shepard
3201 Key West Dr
Garland, TX 75044
Stop Harassing Us Stop calling our home
A complaint will be file in Court against your company therefore, do not contact me anymore. The lawyer will be filing the lawsuit. Therefore, we will see you’re in court. If you have any information, please forward the information to Ross and Matthew Law firm.
We have request verbally, (by phone) e-mail, and certified mail for your company to stop calling our home. Therefore, a legal team will deal with your company at this point.
Do No Call
John E. Shepard
U.S. Department of Justice Media (NV) Katie Courier Congress persons
Tape recorded conversation today: Will be used in Court
No Equity has been build up after 5 years of payments (lawyer stated differently)
Management fees doubled since we signed up, then tied into a contract until I am 115 years old. I'm tempted to see a solicitor to stop the harrasing letters, phone calls and emails, apparently many others are suffering the same way. The victims need a focal point so they can afford to argue down this international rip-off company.
fees have gone crazy
If any one reads this Diamond Resorts has more than doubled in 5 years. They have gone crazy. I would not buy there again. It is supposed to be a help in keeping vacation costs under control. W e could book a regular vacation with airfare for less than just the maint. fees.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
In doing a bit of Research on Diamond Resorts CEO Stephan Cloobeck I found an interesting quote;
The setting;
During an interview after a very heated board meeting with regents for the Navada University system regarding instate tuition fee. The article is interesting and gives more background on THE MAN himself, but the quote tells the story of the man...
Direct quote from an online article from the Las Vegas Sun.
Heather Rawlyk
Friday, Jan. 30, 2004 | 11:14 a.m.
...
In the hallway Cloobeck told a small group that if his business had overcharged people and refused to pay them back, there would be a criminal complaint from the attorney general's office.
Where's the criminal complaint against them? Cloobeck asked. This is so wrong and incorrigible that we would have elected officials acting like an (expletive) circus. Its simple, give all of the people their money back...
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2004/jan/30/regents-reduce-in-state-tuition-standard/
see the article yourself, just want to share with everyone what a great man they have running Diamond Resorts hypocrisy and self importance.
CVO
Then why don't you explain to all of us WHY maintenance fees are through the roof - you can't ever book anything - nothing is available during the time people want to vacation - Why did our sales person tell us we could book anything on 2500 points - HOWEVER - that is not true - We CAN'T BOOK anything on 2500 points. So this whole thing is WORTHLESS - I say everyone who has a complaint against this Scam of a company needs to pull together and get a Class Action Lawsuit against. Please comment
unfair business practices
I purchased a timeshare with points I could use every year. I was told the fees would total less than $800 a year when I purchased the week. I have received bills in excess of $1300 and when I requested an accounting of taxes and fees to try to understand why the charges were so much than I was quoted at time of purchase, no one responded to my written communication even though I have documentation that shows my correspondence was received. There is no control over how much you will be charged once you purchase one of these units. The sales people will tell you anything to get you to purchase and you have no recourse. If you refuse to pay the huge fees, your credit will be ruined. It took me two months to get the phone number I have included so I could talk to someone who was no help what so ever. Stay away from this company as their business practices are horrible and you will be SORRY. Once you purchase you are stuck. The properties are never filled and some of them are old and in less than great condition and you can stay at them for a fraction of what you will pay in fees if you purchase.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I am an owner of Diamond Resort just received my confirmation while going through the paper work came across a sentence stating that we now have to pay $25.00 for parking, internet access and fitness center. Most of us just paid a water intrussin fee which we only had 3 months to get the money how much more can we take they are bleeding us more fees .As we go forward with our class action suite hope this will stop this scam so other people will not have to put up with their lies. Cannot wait until the trial starts sure would like to be their.
Unsatisfied Diamond Resort International Owner
CREST
Many are upset and more are finally waking up to the SCAM that is the "Diamond Difference" I think is how "they" phrase it...
KBCowners.com for more info
United as one we can...
CVO
IS ANY ONE ELSE UPSET OVER THE FIASCO AT THE POINT AT POIPU
WE COULD BUILD A NEW RESORT FOR THE PRICE OF 'REPAIRS'
HOW DO YOU GET OUT ?
AND THEY CONTINUE TO SELL WHILE CURRENT OWNERS CAN'T GET A RESERVATION
LIKE TO HEAR IF ANYONE ELSE IS UPSET
Hi everyone,
My husband and I bought into the timrshare at the Daytona Beach Regency in Daytona Beach Fla. in 1997.I really haven't had any big issues until last year(except the maintenance going up every year and the conditions of the condo going down.)
Last year and the same thing is happening now, I have tried to book our vacation.(Bear in mind Ive always been able to get at this condo anytime without any problem.)I can not get a week anytime after march 1 until after Sept 1. BUT, you can book whatever week you want directly thru the resort and pay a ridiculous amount per night. I have made several callls about this to the Las Vegas office and what it boils down to is they need to generate income to cover the maintenance fees on the huge amount of foreclosed units.This is the excuse they use as to why the maintenance fees keep going up.Then you
can go to Expedia and get a week and its a little bit cheaper, meanwhile you have all these points to go on your own.
They need to stop this it is just not fair, I told them they are jusst ruining the company themselves.
Mr. dufster is no longer benefiting from our intercourse and has withdrawn, much like a shy turtle head...
CVO
Hi all
Some good news from the UK. eg - TCA http://www.timeshare.org.uk/news.html
" Kings Ransome Holidays (Peachy Leisure) yesterday took a large number of its Members to Court in Manchester. Kings were attempting to claim back management fees and other monies from said Members.The Judge STRUCK out every claim, and told Kings they were liable for ALL defence costs, and ALL Legal costs."
It seems the LAW does not like scamming timeshare! It also just so happens that this company had the same contract type as the company for this thread. Shame on them!
Wheres duffy?
I think they are beginning to see this is a battle they are going to Loooooose! I have word two resorts in Hawaii have now beaten them off the board and taken back their resorts from DRI. There is another resort on Maui that is also beginning to get vocal too. I smell smoke DRI is that you going down in flames? What a site that will be, a historical moment I would think.
Patty ol boy have not heard from you in a while, remember the rip cord is on the left and remember to tuck and roll when you hit the ground, oh and running might be good too... HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011 I think just might be your year...
CVO
Chief Value Officer
P.S. to the Rest of you DRI HATERS Happy New Years and may God bless effort you put forth to exposing the TRUTH about DRI
I'll keep telling those looking in to a life with any time share or exchange company, RUN do not drink the cool-aid, it is 2nd grade math and it does not take 90 minutes to explain
$15, 000/week owned (or more) for your points
$ 1, 200/year/week owned (and more guaranteed as time goes on)
20 years @ $1200.00 is another $24, 000.00 ( most people will only be able to vacation for about 20 to 25 years and not necessarily consecutively)
so now you take your total investment in your vacation ownership
15, 000
24, 000
39, 000 or about $2000.00/week (Just for your accomodations)
or $285.00 a night
Now go to Expedia, Travelocity or whatever your favorite travel site and see what you can book and some of those properties you can book online are the same ones that DRI manages along with RCI and other exchange companies and you wont be beholden to just one company for you vacation needs. Example we just recently stayed in Sedona, Az at a nice place for 150.00/night. I have always been able to get a room from one of the online travel sites previously mentioned.
The Timeshare Industry has begun to self implode, people are giving away their timeshares because they do not work the way the 90 minute presentation sells it. Save yourself and your family the money and misery of being stuck with one company and their limited (and often not available) choices.
My two cents
CVO
Hi all
I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW!
billing discrepancies
Diamond Resorts does not invoice properly and preys on delinquent charges and foreclosures. I was never billed in November and when I received a letter February 12, I was advised I owed $1121 dollars by Feb. 1, I paid on Feb 19 over the phone with a Credit Card, asked if there was any other charges and was assured this was all I owed. On April 3 they sent me a letter that advised me I was delinquent and owed $261 and would be foreclosed on if not addressed immediately. I spent 2+ hours on the phone, was "accidently" hung up on when I asked to speak to a Supervisor and ultimately never got to speak to a supervisor, only an "escalation specialist". I explained my frustration and was advised the $261 was posted the day after I paid, so I owed it anyway, not their fault they didn't post it on time. Ended up paying and washing my hands of it. When economy turns I am seriously considering getting out. Sad part is I purchased this to force myself to go on vacation more, this has been an ongoing problem since purchasing this property, always one excuse of why I wasn't billed on time and how it is my responsibility to remember to send money every November, no matter if I know how much to send or not or where to send money to and which acct. number to use. I really like the Resort, but the management company has really destroyed the experience for me. My bottom line is this, I pay bills on the 5th and 20th of every month, if I owe you money and you bill me prompty, you will be paid as soon as the bill arrives and is due, If you fail to bill me it is likely you won't be paid promptly. I can't remember every bill I have, particularly if it is once a year. And as most corporations work today, who knows where to send it to because the billing centers constantly move from location to location. I hope somebody from Kaanapali sees and understands this, I am not satisfied simply filling out a complaint on an internet board. I will write letters to the right people and hopefully get billed properly in the future or Diamond Resorts will be released from managing the affairs of this facility.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Good luck on trying to get rid of your time share. When I tried to give mine back to Diamond I was told that, if I did that, I would still be liable for their ridiculous "maintenance" fees. Ultimately I lost about $20, 000 to this outfit.
Duffy is just out to squeeze his customers for as much as he can get. As long as it is strictly legal, he has not compunction over forcing people into misery. I have met many in this situation.
He should be ashamed, but I fear that actually he thinks himself rather clever. He probably feels pleased at how he has squeezed all this cash out of what I am sure he thinks of as "small people".
Nine months ago, my position was deleted. Our family income went from $80K a year to less than $30K a year. I subsequently applied for, and was approved, for unemployment. Unfortunately, with the recent mess Congress had made, I no longer get unemployment. I am down to zero dollars per months. I have applied for everything I am qualified for...from education to human resources to retail jobs. I have had interviews, but have never received a job offer. We have cut "unnecessary" expenses like the extra TV with cable, no home phone, extracurricular activities for our children were stopped, I quit school. I had called our credit card companies and our car loan companies. Each one was very helpful and either cut out the late fees or tacked two months worth of payments onto the back of the loan. I called Diamond and what do I get...NOTHING! When I explained the situation and what other companies have done for us, they said that was illegal. When I corrected the individual over the phone, she rephrased her statement to "Diamond doesn't do that." Really? Is this how you keep customers? It's not like the CEO needs anymore money...he can help the "little" people by offering some type of relief or break to help through the tough times. It seems like this is a trend with Diamond and they don't care about their customers...only the bottom line and what they can scam out of their customers. I am so utterly disappointed in this company that we are considering selling our timeshare. With a lack of income, we can't afford to go on vacation anyways.
I would never recomend you to anyone.
Second month..I sent this payment well ahead of time. What did you do? Held it until the 29th, today, to cash it. Sorry, but I called my bank, and frankly I am tired of everything being everyone elses fault. They didn't recieve your part until the 26th. Again holding our check for 14 days. I am not paying the late fee. I am sending my complaints to Missouri and Iowa's Attorney General.
Dear Mr & Mrs Smythe,
Thank you for your post above. I do believe you have come to a better understanding of how your bill pay functions at your bank. This of course with my colleagues assistance. As you are aware, it is not a bank wire but a paper check that is tendered. Thus necessitating a window for delivery different from your actual due date. They also suggested to you the use of Sure Pay as a convenient manner. When your bank send the check they automatically deduct from your ledger the amount. However, your check is in the post on its way to the payee.
If we may be of any further assistance, we would be happy to help.
Yours cordially,
Patrick Duffy
Chief Experience Officer
I would like to agree with all the complaints I have read. DRI's payment processing is set to incur late charges. I sent them proof that my bank paid on time, the 12th of the month to get there by the 15. It was DRI's finance department that held my check until the 24th and not taking the money until the 27th, only to give us a $13.50 late charge. When I called I was told they have a 10 day payment process and the it was our banks fault. And then the CSR proceeded to lecture me on proper bill paying, he told me I HAD to get my payment to them on the 1st of the month to have it processed and posted by the due date of the 15th. I have never had to pay a month in advance through internet bill pay. This is bank to bank. I wish I would have used my 5 day right to cancel.
Dear Mr Duffy
I have read the various comments on this blog and would like to ask a simple question.
There has been much discussion about the rises in management fees. Concrete facts seemed to be in short supply. I therefore did some research.
I found that Expedia were offering appartments for rental at the Santa Barbara Golf and Ocen Club in Tenerife. One two bedroom appartment cost £510 for one week at Easter next year (2011). This is far enough in advance that it should reflect standard prices and not any form of special offer.
Looking in the DRI points calendar, one week in a two bed appartment at the Santa Barbara Golf and Ocean Club "costs" members 6500 points. Looking at the invoice that you sent to me for maintenance fees, this would equate to more than £800 in maintenance charges.
It seems from this that you charge around 60% more for maintenence that casual holidaymakers would pay to rent... without the costs of buying points and the annual commitments to DRI.
Looking through the various blogs containing complaints about DRI, it would seem that this is not an isolated situation.
Can you explain why your maintenance charges are so high? I would have expected members to be paying substantially less than casual travellers given that they have paid so much to buy points in the first place and that they are committed to holidaying with you.
I think that we would all appreciate a breakdown of the expenses incurred in maintaining one of your appartments for a week.
Regards
Robin
Mr/Mrs Not Happy...
Why don't you reach out to me...You seem to be so full of mis-information. You never get an invoice every year? Hmmmm...Really? But you seem to know about it?
Email me like I write...so I can help you get your invoice...If you have not gotten it already.
Yours respectfully,
Patrick Duffy
It's the samething every year. They send the bill no one gets it for some odd reason. And they add all these fees. Patrick Duffy seems to have the same response on everyones complaint. Email me and i will get to the bottom of this. You know you won't do anything. You changed the call center to miami and those reps are horrible. So rude and unprofessional, eating on the phone and chatting with other co-workers, while they were suppose to help me. I know that the pune reps were bad but they weren't that bad. I remember being able to speak to the same reps, all so very nice and helpful. Now they are just useless. About the fees, yes granted we are told they are going to go up annually. But come on, 500 dollars! The money is suppose to be for the resorts to maintain them. They don't look maintained. I've seen better. When i call i verifiy my address, phone number and email... Now why is it that i NEVER get my invoice? Everything is correct. But i never get it. I can relate to the complaint above. You need to start worrying more about the customer service and the properties.
Dear Eden Barr,
Please email me at;
patrick.duffy@diamondresorts.com
Let me investigate the specifics of your post...As it seems you are getting some bill, somewhere, sometime because you are still an owner?
Thank you,
Patrick Duffy
Chief Experience Officer
scam or fraud?
I just recieved a registered letter in the mail yesturday. DRI is telling me I owe over $900 for fees and either to pay or sign over my timeshare to them. I purchase this timeshare around 4 years ago. Since then, I have never been able to use it because they have told me that I have to make my reservations 13 months in advance. My maintenence fees have gone up from $200 the first year to $400 the next, then now $900. If someone is doing something about this, please advise; otherwise, I will be forced just to do as they ask and just sign the thing over to them and walk away. I, too, used to be a happy owner even though I have not been able to use it when I wanted. I was even considering purchasing more points due to how few I have (hoping this would open more time up for usage). But, like I said before, if things do not change, I will be forced to do something I do not really want to do.
Whatever you do don't purchase more points. That just increases your maintenace fees. You should be able to locate units online in the Diamond Resort web site. You don't have to do it 13 months in advance. I've owned for over 20 years now and have seen a drastic increase in maint. fees. I'm ready to give mine back too.
fruedulent practices
I would also like to file a complaint for freudulent practices. My husband and I purchased in June of 2008 in Lake Tahoe. We have been able to book into our home base, but not able to ever book on the coast which was the reason we purchased the timeshare. We also were promised after 10% of purchase was made or 6 months of payments were received that we would get 2 free American Airline vouchers...talk about getting the run around...3 months later and STILL no voucher. You never speak to the same person twice and when you finally get a hold of a supervisor, they don't get anything done, either. We have seen an increase of maintenance fees, as well. My husband and I are headed up to lake Tahoe to stay in our home base at the end of the month and plan on making a stink at the sales office and don't really care what customers overhear as we will be voicing our disappointment!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I visited them in April I have been with them since Monarch, never had problem with Monarch. Well they invited me to a meeting. They say they were going to talk about the new things that Diamond has to offer after few minutes they started pitching to buy new points. She said do not tell anyone but I am willing to give you a $1, 000 travel voucher. She told me if I cancel I will loose $500.00 of the voucher.
For the deposit I sign to get a credit card I got $1, 200. The problem started when I got home and really starting reading the papers I realized I did not need additional points. I sign the cancellation form mailed it right away. When I called them to check if they received the forms they said yes but they were going to keep $1, 000 from the credit card. I asked them why they said that I sign saying that they could keep $1, 000.00. He sent me a copy when I look at they paper I sign is the one that offer the voucher. When I told him that he said the voucher worth nothing. Now I am stuck with a $1, 000.00 bill. They are thief.
This for me is one of the mildest of co mplaints. WhenI was High pressured in singning up for Sunterra It cost me $22, 500. I told the mgr that at that time I was 83 years of age but they contnued their pressure. I have spent another $300 hiring a firm that assured me that they will sell it for me very quickly. I never recieved ONE offer.
Since I purchased My wfe became a Cancer victim. I called many times up to the main office pleading for them to buy back. But to no avail. Now with th economy as it ts for us all. As a veteran of WW2. I find this firm despicable and uncaring.Does any one have any suggestions of what I can do.
sicerely, Mel
association dues
To whom it may concern;
My wife and I purchased an 8 day 7 night stay at the Kaanapali Beach Club Resort for $1, 100 back in April of 2007. We pre purchased the stay for March 28th 2008 through April 4th 2008. We had sat through Sunterra’s timeshare presentation and did not buy so they offered us to stay at that rate if we purchased the stay at that time. One of the conditions to stay there was that you had to sit through the timeshare presentation again.
When we went there this year we had found out that Diamond Resorts had bought out Sunterra sometime in 2007. Our salesman was Johnathan Wise. When we were going through the presentation we asked him specifically, ” If we purchased the timeshare today, when would our first association fees be due?” He told us we would not owe any dues till November and those dues would be for 2009. Mind you the total cost of our timeshare was over $14, 000 dollars.
Sometime in early June I received a bill from Diamond Resorts Hawaii Collection Members Association. The bill is for $674.05. I called the number for the association and talked to a representative who told me I signed a contract and no matter what the salesman said I owe this money and that was that. I asked to talk with a manager and he refused my request. Along with the bill they sent a copy of the 2008 budget. On the back of the budget it shows that the 2008 dues were due on January 1st 2008 and would be considered delinquent if not paid in full by January 31st. We purchased our timeshare on April 1st 2008. Diamond Resorts had their 2008 budget for association dues and at the time of our presentation and they never disclosed that budget to us. They only had a 2007 budget that was in our disclosure package and it was the Club Sunterra Association Budget.
After looking at the two budgets, which are night and day in difference, and now knowing that we would be paying an additional $1, 348.00 in association dues before we would ever be able to use our timeshare, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE PURCHASED the timeshare based on the financial aspects of the deal.
I have taken some time to read through the disclosures and bylaws they had given me and have found where Diamond Resorts is in violation of Hawaii’s Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs Chapter 106 Time Sharing 514E-11.3. Enclosed is a copy of Hawaii’s chapter 106 laws and remedies 514E-11.3. Diamond resorts and RME are in violation of section 16-106-2.5 Conduct (a) To fully protect the general public in its timeshare transactions, every registrant shall conduct business in accordance with this section. (c) The registrant shall ascertain and disclose all material facts concerning every time share interest so that the registrant may fulfill its obligation to avoid error, misrepresentation, or concealment of material facts. (f) The registrant, for the protection of all parties with whom the registrant deals, shall see that financial obligations and commitments regarding timeshare transactions are in writing, expressing the exact agreements of the parties, and that copies of those agreements, at the time they are executed, are placed in the hands of all parties involved.
We were never given, or shown, a copy of the 2008 association budget, which they had already made, to compare with the 2007 budget which my wife and I consider to be crucial financial information. Diamond Resorts also failed to express exactly how they would bill association dues when a party buys their timeshare in mid year. The salesman gave false information and mislead us to believe we would only be billed for our association in November for our 2009 dues.
Diamond Resorts also has some problems with their disclosure statement they gave us. All of the disclosures and documents we signed were for Sunterra, not Diamond Resorts. In their disclosures they have Michael Peters as the Plan Manager and he is with Resort Management International. When you call his number [protected] you get Diamond Resorts. In the disclosure book page 32 number 20 it states” If the developer or its affiliate is terminated as Plan Manager, then the Association must change its name so that the word ” Sunterra” is deleted from the name and usage by the association and the board, and no member may use the name “ Sunterra” with respect to the association, their membership, the club accommodations or Vacation Club. [Declaration13.4]. I called the [protected] and confirmed with the person that answered that Diamond Resorts had bought out Sunterra sometime in 2007 and the Plan Manager, Michael Peters, was no longer the Plan Manager. Diamond Resorts Name is not in the disclosure documents, there is not a rider attached to the document, and Exhibit “E” is the 2007 Cub Sunterra Vacations Hawaii Members Association budget. The plan manager had changed and under their own guidelines they were not supposed to use Sunterra’s name in their documents. On page 16 letter (C) it states that the association fees are comprised of 2 assessments. Diamond Resorts is in conflict in the number of assessments they disclose in writing, the bill we received for the 2008 association dues also states that the assessment fess are comprised of 2 assessments. When you look at the bill you have 3 different components that make up the bill plus a $5.00 Voluntary contribution. When you look at the back of the bill it also confirms that association dues are billed in the subsequent year in November and due by January 1st. Again we purchased our timeshare on April 1st 2008 for over $14, 000.00 and were never shown this association assessment nor did we receive anything in writing showing that we would owe this amount buying the timeshare already three months into the year after the 2008 assessments were due. The terms used in their documents and billing refer to annual assessments. Annual is a 12 month assessment, and not only are they not clear on how they would bill for a partial year, they are trying to collect for a full years worth of assessments that include property taxes and costs that anyone purchasing a partial year should not have to pay for something they did not receive a benefit from. When you look through section C you will also see that the Board of directors are responsible to use reasonable judgment when determining increases in the association assessments. When you compare the differences in the2007 budget and the 2008 budget you will see that the budget went from $2, 510.618.00 to$5, 793, 744.00. This is and increase of over 115 . I would not consider this to be reasonable. The board of directors of the association have a fiduciary responsibility to protect the timeshare holders as well as the developer. The more people who buy into the timeshare should spread out the costs to make it go down not up.
Enclosed is the documentation that proves we were not fully disclosed on the financial obligations we were being committed to. Based on Hawaii’s Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs Chapter 106 and page 24 number 18 of the Club Sunterra Vacations Hawaii disclosure statement Sales in violation of Hawaii timeshare law. Section 514E-11.3 of Hawaii law provides that every sale or transfer made in violation of the Hawaii Time Share Law is voidable at the election of the buyer. I am choosing to exercise my rights afforded me through my Visa card and void this transaction # 2889 trans. Date 04/14/2008 posting date 04/16/2008 in the amount of $12, 906.00. I am requesting that Diamond resorts cancel my timeshare purchase and refund me 12, 906.00 on my credit card as well as the $230.00 initial deposit and an additional $349.00 paid in closing costs. You have 15 days to comply.
Larry and Tracy Beck
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Diamond Resorts has the worst customer service I have ever encountered. If you are thinking of buying with them don't. On two separate occassions they have lost my checks. Then they turn around and try to charge me late fees. In trying to take care of the situation i have just been bounced around from person to person with no resolution. I had to do a stop check and ended up being charged for that as well as the late fees.
The latest complaint is the lack of response to requests to honor the $150 maintenance fee credit for 2009, and for two American Airlines certificates.
Phone calls and letters are to no avail. I will contact the Federtal Trade Commision.
I just received a notice to pay $1472.87 for association dues, act #2337794.
we have never been able to get a date at any resort that we can use. We are in for more $14, 000. How can we begin to get out of this current dues and sell our membership. My husband is on dialysis and is now being declared legally blind. I have to do all the driving to go anywhere.He is 87 and I AM 84. we have had the time share for approx. 6-7 years and never used. it.
This organization does not care about the customer. They made consistent mistakes on my contract and have absolutely no regard for the services they provide. My list of complaints is long...stay away from this organization if you value your time and money.
Lesson #1 Never buy a new timeshare ownership from a company. #2 Don't believe ANYTHING a salesman shows you unless it is in writing.
Please let me know if any kind of class action suit comes up. My husband and I bought into this scam a year ago. Not only did fees go up, we can’t find a resort any where in the world with availability. Even in off season!
I am disgusted with this and would like to find some resolution. Has anyone consulted a lawyer about the legality of this fraud, bait and switch….
we have had problems with booking weeks also.
We also had the loss of our maintance fee check last yr I believe and even though we had proof of the check being sent and cashed by Diamond on this end from our bank we had to rewrite and pay the extra fees involved. And I have never had an easy time of reserving a time period at Poipu since Diamond took over, years past it was easy and the owning company worked with you, not against you(us) as Diamond does...I capitalize their name only because of correct grammar, not out of respect.
Welcome to the Diamond Difference...
CVO
You just have to love the classic delusional responses coming from the duffster... That must be from his quick responses to sharp criticism book of lies, does he really believe what he is saying or is it all just part of the ACT? Only his hair dresser knows for sure... Then his futile attempts to squash the complaint by taking it off line. How utterly predictable, I sure miss the duffster on this board. It was always a good laugh to read his dribble and canned excuses for fleecing the members. He has moved on to bigger and better rip offs scams and fleecings I guess, or perhaps him a clueless are planning to take over the world... (which one is binky and which one is the brain?)
CVO
Ms. fourtimesamomma,
Let me explain something to you;
If DRI did not decide to acquire and run these resorts correctly...You, and all the other uninformed owners and members whould be crying about losing your timeshare. Everyone, including DRI pays to own. Your maintenace fees pay salary, utilities, upkeep, etc.
Do you think since your purchase in 2000 prices have declined in Hawaii?
If you have a cogent question/inquiry my contact information is as such;
Patrick Duffy
patrick.duffy@diamondresorts.com
[protected]
fraud and cheating
My wife and I have ownership interests in the Flamingo Beach Resort and the Flamingo Beach Villas in Sint Maarten. These properties were acquired last year by Diamond Resorts International.
When we purchased the time share weeks the initial Maintenance Fees were set in the contract but the contracts were mute with regard to inflation but we were assured that the rates would follow the local inflation rates in St Marten. We have just received our invoice for this year and find that our fees have increased 34% and 42% respectively. When I expressed concern over the increase to Diamond Resorts International I was told to 'get a lawyer'.
If we do not pay the fees we forfeit the properties and our initial investments. We feel that the increase is unconscionable and intended to force owners to abandon their investment so that the properties can be resold.
We understand that a class action suit is being mobilized by a local law firm in Sint Maarten on behalf of owners to address the Maintenance fee increases and the purported use of capital reserves to pay debts. We have also contacted the Attorney General for our state. It is hard to imagine that firms like Diamond Resorts International can operate in such a heavy handed way.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
We have been Diamond owners for many years and attended many "owner updates". I believe we were lied to every time. Usually more than one lie each visit. We were able to cancel once due to their lying we caught within the cancellation period. They were fined $800000 by the Arizona Attorney General's Office in December 2016. They have continued the same shoddy and illegal practices since then. I will be contacting the Attorney General's Office soon to file another complaint. Fraud of this type in Arizona is a class 2 felony.
I have been researching the timeshare issue ever since I became an owner at Greensprings in Virginia since 1998 and have been amazed at the vitriol and hatred toward our somewhat less than desirable and esteemed management. I for one believe we should vote as a block at the next Bd meeting in November in James City Virginia (Colonial Williamsburg) and vote them out and at that point we can make some real changes to the direction and management of this resort, as well as organizing the same for the other resorts, which they can use our strategy as a basis to effect change. I have thoroughly read the By-Laws and it appears the "timeshare owners" have a great deal of more authority than what management wants you to know. With a few changes we can force the sale of the Greensprings development by changing the By-Laws with 95% of the voting membership (which is made up of current owners - not "point owners" and once we control the Board we can propose a different tact to make this easier). It appears only timeshare owners who kept their deed and not traded in for points can take control of the Greensprings Resort. Once we have control of the Board (which can happen by simple majority vote) we can systematically make the necessary changes and sell this financial train wreck to the highest bidder as a condo or apartment complex and split the proceeds with all the owners. Now I know why they wanted to rid the development of owners and put in the Point system (makes it harder to change the Board). Nonetheless, we should do this while the Greensprings Vacation Resorts is still a viable entity and can attract a well-heeled investor(s). I am completely paid up, have no loan with DRI and currently a licensed attorney from Texas and have reciprocity to be able to practice in VA. I have sued countless institutions/lenders and Banks and currently work for the Federal Gov't, but feel the need to right this horrible situation everyone is complaining about, but we need to band together either in person or by proxy at the Resort and vote these particular members off the Board. That is what will scare them and is the only way to get their attention. I am willing to do this and IF I were to get any payment for the sale from the fact that I am an owner, it would be when we SOLD the dam thing along with the other owners. I don't really care if I get any money out of this strategy, only that we all get out of this financial mess, that apparently will last not just a lifetime (like our brochures said), but for eternity - which they never CLEARLY told us (probably not a good selling point when they pitched the idea to us). Also, I wonder if any salesman ever said that in 20 years your timeshare that you paid off will be nearly worthless, in the timeshare resale market, since no one will want to take over your obligation to pay the maintenance fees (the response would be that "we can't predict the future"), fair enough but what is good for the goose and is good for the gander. Let's use the bylaws to our advantage and see what tune they sing then. Many know this Timeshare would be a good deal if the maintenance fees were many times cheaper, in fact, it would make it more marketable, like when the fees were $387 when I bought mine, it would be an easy sell. We all know that is not the case. What they have is a fish on the preverbal hook (we being the fish), and they can raise our fees us each year with impunity. In any event, I am fortunate because I can get out of my timeshare obligations any-time I want, and could legally transfer/sell my timeshare to ANY purchaser who will use it as a residence. This is so easy to accomplish and it's such a fantastic loophole that it makes me ecstatic that I did not fall for their sales technique to give up my deed back in 2008 when Sunterra got sold or was bankrupt. What they should have done then was sell darn Resort, pay everyone their money back and called it even, but no that as an opportunity to sell out except to DRI. To that end, please contact me to get organized so we can vote these current members off the Board. I will more than happy run the for the Board, but I can't do it alone and have to have some of you who are owners from Greensprings (deed owners) to join me so we can not only drastically change the direction of this Timeshare situation, but may well-prove as a model for other Timeshare Resorts to possibly rid ourselves of timeshares altogether, before it's too late. As I said my contract was signed in 1998 and I have an out, therefore for those owners in Greensprings you may have one as well. Send me an email to get started at aprlaw@live.com and hopefully I will get some volunteers to run for the Board, along with me, to help me dislodge this incredible journey we all have experienced and hopefully end it profitably. Hang in there. Anthony Romano
DRI, Royal Holiday Club etc.. why it has to be about scamming people? Why this business is based on misleading and lying to people?
Please guys, be welcome to read also my story about RHC (Royal Holiday Club).
Did anyone ever find out how to join a law suit or get action against the rise of maintenance fees and that "Special Assessment" fee for another property? Our maintenance fees have more than doubled, and it's not right that DRI should get away with this? We stupidly or was convinced through sales pitch to trade our deeded one week into a points system the DR club? The maintenance fees went up by $500 a year, but now doubled to $3900+ and we've only been part of this points system for a little over one year. We can't afford this and now in collections and not sure what to do? After 10 years of owning one week and being fine with that, do we have any recourse or do we really walk away after all that? We were sold into something it's not, and especially the fact, they knew that Special Assessment fee was coming up the pipe and we had no clue. They should not be allowed to sell into DRI points or club knowing something wrong like this. We'd like to join a complaint or law-suit or something stating that DRI should not be able to do this to people?
10 to 1 this guy is associated with and bought DRI from Dennis Hof, another Las Vegas area timeshare con artist who parlayed his fortune into the prostitution business. They're practically brothers on the surface, although I doubt Hof has anything close to the degree of paranoia shown by Cloobeck on the show-for those who missed it he has a bodyguard who drives him everywhere and he ditched the traditional budget hotel after his bodyguard inspected it and found it lacking. Needless to say, he certainly didn't stick to the diet of canned foods and inedible crap other CEO's on the show have traditionally had to endure. Instead, he checked into a luxury hotel-and not just a hotel, a suite. Naturally, Undercover Boss did NOT show him taking on the job of time share salesman, for which he knew he would be torn apart. Quite a sham of an episode, really.
Well said Rodney
He truly is an ego-maniac I do not know if he is personable as I have never met the man, however his actions are that of a man full of himself and total lack of conscience when it comes to screwing over anyone else. He is all about how Rich he is and has no clue what the rest of the 99% must do just to make it, and frankly he does not care about the 99% as long as they keep paying him is extortion fees to run his resort acquisition machine.
My two cents
CVO
BTW did not watch the S.O.B. on the See B.S. U C Boss...
Quite interesting. Never have I seen an athletic head of a corporation display such paranoid behavior, especially on national television (CBS Undercover Boss). I doubt that the airing of the episode will win them a substantial number of new customers, when likely paired with the investigative reporting on websites such as this, that will also find new life in a number of highly publicized new stories throughout the internet and all types of media, from print to broadcast and everything else. It seems as if Mr. Cloobeck is extremely worried someone will come after him-which is hardly a surprise, given the number of complaints here and elsewhere. But to show such paranoia on national television? Wow...just wow...also, something I can say after taking a look at the detailed complaints at [redacted].com then there's the added mystery that somehow this guy knew when to buy a Lambourghini from a Southern California dealership the very same month 54 such cars were bought and never paid for. News reports indicate Mr. Cloobeck owes well over $300, 000 for his. Mr. Cloobeck strikes me as a quite personable guy who may want to do the right thing, especially when it makes him look good publicly, but possibly in way too far over his head in a business model that relies on a never ending parade of suckers. Timeshares are notoriously poor investments, and a building far more prestigious in Las Vegas than DRI's Polo Towers, Planet Hollywood's Westgate Towers, also has numerous complaints for fraud and other timeshare related issues. Mr. Cloobeck is driven by ego and a desire to be admired (same as Arnold Schwarzenegger) that is almost a DSM-IV level condition. A very decent person when he wants to be, but also one who can't help but use charm and intellect to get his way, no matter how trivial or important the matter may be. I think he just is in way over his head, which is a shame, because he's clearly talented and personable, and the paranoia is off the charts. Still, the guy is very likeable, just don't buy a timeshare from him (or anyone else) or trust him in any manner. That's my observation, anyway.
I bought in to Sunterra in 1999, My so called maintenance fees were around $500 Dollars now they have reached $1655. When is this going to stop, This is crazy! I did not sign up for this. I think we need to open this up to the media and let them take care of them! This is a big scam ! All I can say is stay away from timeshares. I cannot believe something like this goes on in the USA, What a disgrace! I think we need a lawsuit against Diamond Resorts International! Who's in ?
bhenning86@hotmail.com
Has anyone seen Mr Duffy lately? He seems to have stopped talking to us. Has he gone into hiding with his chum Steve Cloobeck.
Where are you boys? Are you huddled together admiring Pat's collection of coloured squares? Oh Pat, it looks like you got great value for all that heartache and suffering you caused. Are you consoling yourself by thinking that art and beauty are all that matters?
Try being kind to others. Be generour and thoughful. Put the needs of others before your own. That's the way to true happiness.
If my money had gone to people that really needed it to get by, I would not be worried. In fact when we sold some old jewelry the other day, we gave the proceeds to the Somali famine appeal. But I do feel seriously annoyed that so much of my money has been taken by Duffy and Cloobeck using unethical means and all that Duffers can do with his share is buy coloured squares.
Come out, come out, wherever you are. We want our money back.
How do I join this class actionsuit against Diamond. Our wonderful property in Sedona was taken over by the evil empire. I hate DIAMOND
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Fraudulent Forclosure - Failure to Provide Notice - Unauthorized Charges - Failure to Resolve Good Faith Dispute I have been an owner since 1996. Prior to Jan. 2008 I was current on all payments due the Resort. In Janu a new maintenance fee (Approx. $376) became due. However, as a result of my move, the mail providing notice of the fee did not reach me. I...
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Warning to potential buyers: you will need to file a complaint with the federal trade commission
In the words of their own customer service supervisor, "sales will tell you anything you want to hear".
This includes outright lies. Once you have a problem or try to get what you paid for:
They do not return phone calls
They do not reply to emails
Customer service will laugh at you
The email to the chairman is a diversion. It goes to a low level damage control person.
This is not a legitimate company. It is purely a sales scam.
They also put a fence through the middle of their former "partners" best resort and gratuitously destroyed the facilities there. This is emblematic of their business practices.
Expect to be stonewalled
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Went to one of their "presentations" based on the promise of a 5 or 7 night vacation in Cape Cod. Received the "Getaway Certificate" and had to pay $29 to "activate" it. What did this activation get me? Access to a list of resorts ALL of which have NO AVAILABILITY for the next TWO YEARS! NOTHING was available! Well, to be honest, some golf club in Indiana had a room available for a single night here and there, but there were NO 5 or 7 day stays available on ANY of their listed resorts. By the way Nothing in Cape Cod was on the list. I would highly suggest, if you see one of their hawkers at a festival or outdoor event, flip them the bird and keep walking!
I also have a terrible experience with diamond resorts, I also was scammed into signing papers and i have only been there since august 2017 they have already collected almost $3000 from my account and when i decided to finally try to use the points i was informed we owed over eleven hundred dollars membership fee's . I or my wife don't remember anybody telling us there would be a extra fee on top of the money they receive out of my account every month, we just thought the amount coming out of our account was the total price.
I never received any e-mail or anything to let me know of the amount due.
I called customer service and was advised to cancel i would have to pay the membership due (which like i said they never mentioned anything about a membership price) and i have to pay off the loan which is like 15k before they could release my contract. I am not a rich person and my only option now is to cancel my bank account so they can't take any more money from me and loose my good credit.
I am filing a report with the BBB and my see if a attorney has any suggestions.
You people that are writing in and saying they are completely satisfied are employee's of diamond or something, why else would you be reading and commenting on these area's?
Never, ever buy a timeshare! 16 years ago my husband and I bought with a company that went bankrupt and Diamond Resorts now owns. They took over our ownership and changed the entire structure of it forcing us to spend nearly $5000 if we would like to trade it for any resort outside of those that Diamond owns. We refuse, so we are now limited only to Diamond's properties which are very limited in number. Our deed has no value and so we are stuck paying $800/year in maintenance fees (hundreds more than when we bought). We can't GIVE it away! Buyer beware!
Diamond resorts is a joke. Do not waste a single moment in their sales dungeon. Lies are common and they seem to believe their own forked tongues. Fortunately I only purchased the sampler.
There are so many other sites with quality vacations...yet Diamond puts themselves on a pedestal and really plays to your emotions and they hype you into the moment.
Do your research and don't succumb to their sales tactics...not just them, all of them.
Save your dignity and your money, they will take them both if you allow it.
I have only been a DRI member for about 2 years, and they have great properties and their staff is excellent as well.
The obligatory sales pitches that many of the special gift vacations have are professional, but persistent and they feel almost desperate, like they will get fired if they dont meet a quota or something every month. I dont know that that is true, but I have that feeling from the several I have gone through. Other than that and their antiquated computer system not processing my payments very efficiently, everything has been great.
Other than the sales pitch, they have great facilities, better than I would get by paying out of pocket, and they have a deed back program now, though I dont know much about it. Many complaints seem to be from people not paying attention to the terms. Like some expect completely free time? Seriously? And never take a salesmans word for anything if it is not in print. And it helps to try and develop a report with good salesmen, it seems.
Some say that you cant resell your DRI points, but I have had several calls by people who want to get me to sell my points. I am not interested, but they offered between $3 and $3.50 per point. I am not interested in selling, but if they caught me coming out of a sales meeting...I dunno.
My wife and I thoroughly enjoy our membership, minus the sales pitches, and their computer system seems to be like ten years out of date, lol, but I'm cool with that. I think we get plenty of value for our membership and look forward to years of vacations ahead.
What a bunch of leeches... WORST company EVER! Best thing to do is run the first time they ever mention Diamond Resorts.. What a scam...
Found your blog. Its really nice on timeshares for sales. I appreciate your article. Its important to get good timeshare sellers, buyers etc. So thanks for sharing all that important information.
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Mystic Dunes Resort, Orlando, FL
High Home Owner Association Fee?
I am writing this to federal government to take an action;
Hello Manager Review Board,
We bought this 2 bed, 2 bathroom one week per year time share in 2008 for $ 17, 000/= in Orlando, FL called Diamond Resort, Mystic Dunes resort, Orlando, FL.
They didn't mention to us that the HOA (home owner maintenance or association fee) per year will be how much?, and also they didn't mention to us that what would be the per year incremental.
Now the fee is 1234/= dollars per year?, which is way high to pay for this type of resort, will get cheaper for a week from other sources.
Could you please investigate from 2008-09 till today why and how they are increasing fee without asking with the owner of the resort?, if they say not to increase they wouldn't lesson, I made few calls and express my opinion to reduce the fee but they didn't pay any attention.
The board members and other officials are almost same guys who are saying “YES“ to everything and getting kick back from them.
I am not sure how many people are going through this type of cheating and losing their time shares, because of the HOA fee?.
Finally I have decided to surrender this resort voluntarily and stay away from this type of cheating.
Thanks and hoping to resolve and punish to those who are doing this type of cheating with Americans.
Please read this article http://nyti.ms/1K1GAVG. Their stock dropped after
I can't pay the mant fee My husband pass away and their is no money. They are telling me I owe over 6, ooo.oo in fees. I don't have any money I work part time 22 hr a week. Just want to sell this and move on.
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I attended a timeshare presentation on 8th October 2008 at the Cypress Pointe resort (owned by Diamond Resort International). I had been invited to this presentation, as I was on my final vacation from an "explorer package deal" that I had previously purchased through Sunterra. (This was a 3 year programme, where I had 4, 000 points per year to purchase...
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This is my third attempt to correct this grave error that has occurred - resulting in our apparent loss of ownership. We discovered this on our own, when considering booking a Sunterra resort in Scottsdale, AZ next week. We learned that over that past year our deed had a lien placed on it and then was foreclosed on in August (according to Douglas County...
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Ms. fourtimesamomma,
I may have asssisted her...Now what is your question? I assist many people, do you need assistaance?
Patrick Duffy
patrick.duffy@diamondresorts.com
[protected]
JENNHAN/Terry- Why do I think that you must work for Diamond Resorts. The only comments you've made on this site have been to say how wonderful their customer service is and how helpful Mr. Duffy can be...
We too have been having nothing but problems. 15 years ago my parents bought a timeshare in Daytona. They loved the place and the upkeep was great. The added bonus, the property was deed time and NOT points. The maintenance fees were reasonable and remained so for about 10 years. Now, since the properpty has been "assumed" by multiple companies, the latest, Diamond resorts.
Every year, we have the extreme miss fortune of having to sit through the sales speech and lies about how the maintenance fees are so high because of special assessments and that we really are still only members because they are a compassionate company and we need to really make the conversion to points. They have repeatedly told us the company we bought went bankrupt and the deed we have in our possession is effectively useless.
I have done my research and looked at the equivalent points. We not only would have to PAY for additional points to ge tthe equivalent of what he had to the tune of another $12, 000 and the maintenance fees we flatten out. I refused to go for their last sales pitch. The result was immidiate. We were essentially threatened and told we would eventually, no longer be able to use the resort to which we have a deed. My father is over 80 years old and felt scared and believed we needed to do what they said. When I refused, he was afraid. My experience for the rest of the stay seemed to change. We were basically ignored and subjected to rude comments and when trying to inquire why there were no more programs for families, we were told it was because customers like us made it impossible to provide quailty services and programs.
I complained about the exorbatant fees which have effectively gone up by about 30% a year for the last 5 years. I reminded them they could look at their records and see that we have been there every year for 15 years and can tell you on less than 2 fingers the amount of times all of the ammenities and facilities in the complex worked. I have had the same furniture, carpet, bedding, wall paper for the last 10 years. The only things I have seen change is a lobby make over and new pool chairs. No more family programs. No more fitness center. No more putting green. No more playground. No more working water slide. No more "owner night" (free food, games and music). No more pool bar. No more game room. No more breakfast nook.
Do NOT waste your time and money buying into this company. Once you are in, you are stuck. You will NOT see your vacation being cheaper and better than if you rented as an individual. Right now, with the travel sites, we can rent for about $830 a week. Our maintenance fees, $962. You do the math, where is the savings?
Hello Ms. Smith:
My colleague Kyle just forwarded me your email. As indicated in some of my past correspondence you would serve yourself better if you call Patrick Duffy at Diamond's corporate office. This is a company that is quite customer-centric from my personal experiences.
Yours faithfully,
Terry
Read the contract! You have a period of recission, why didn't you utilize that period? I did the first time, then I bought and received my maintenance fee credit on the second presentation 3 years later when it became Diamond Resorts. Now call their office and get your credit.
Kyle