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I'm OVERLY concerned because I don't want to get "Suckered" in again.
Out of the blue I was contacted by "Edward Peters" via Sierra Club.
Mind you this was part of our Velas Vallata (Mexico time-share) purchase, resale/rental program. My question is this: Why, if I'm the "seller" am I required to pay $995.00 for transfer papers-title search-ect.
TRUST ME, I want to sell my time-share but I don't want to get sucked-in again. I keep hearing I should never pay an "UP-FRONT" fee to sell it.
Any comments or feed-back is encouraged.
Thank-You

Update by MrDonald
Feb 18, 2010 7:26 pm EST

Thank You for your input. I KNEW if it "sounded" to good to be true, it was more than likely a scam. Thanks for responding, it really helps. I guess one of the only ways to try and fix these issues is on our next visit to the "time-share". One wonders why people end up "SNAPPING".
There has to be a way out with-out costing MORE Money? Is there a successful way to rents these time-shares?

Update by MrDonald
Apr 15, 2010 10:11 am EDT

I am so glad that I had enough sense to post about the latest Sierra Club Rental and Resale SCAM.
Even if I haved help one person from being scammed again I feel better. Just to reiterate DO NOT
EVER GIVE UP FRONT MONEY TO LIST OR SELL YOUR TIME SHARE. You will regret your decision after not hearing back from these companies for months and unfortunately will not be able to get your money back. It looks like (We As Consumers) must just learn from our mistakes and hope not to make them again. After questioning Sierra about "up-front-fees" they never contacted or followed up with me again. That just reinforced day one suspision.
If I had more time on my hands I would really try to expose these frauds and put them out of business. They are preying on us because they know we are VERY DESPERATE to get rid of the time shares' that we can no longer afford or have use for. Just do all your homework before making any decisions. Beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing. If its sounds to good to be true then it probably is just another scam.
Mr. Donald

Update by MrDonald
Nov 06, 2010 5:18 pm EDT

I am so pleased that I started this post. Thank God that so many people have avoided the Scam from Sierra Club Rental and Resales. It's sad to know that some folks still got scammed. Please keep posting so Any Resale Company that tries to charge UP-FRONT Fee's are SCAMMERS. It looks like we are unfortunately stuck with the "time-share" unless we pay up-front fee's to get rid of them... Not Even Guaranteed.

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millermmk1
Victor, US
Apr 01, 2011 3:25 am EDT

I was contacted by Priority Escrow - naturally a different person. I got the option to either get my money back or go through with the sale - of couse with another payment. How funny is this - i'm thinking of stringing them along for a bit and tell them I'll come visit since I'm in the area. I have learned that if you need to pay up front, it's shady. My turn to have fun... STAY AWAY and learn from this!

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Gloria Stoner
Kelowna, CA
Apr 01, 2011 10:30 pm EDT
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There are several of us from various areas who have been involved in the Sierra Resort situation and now are being contacted by this Priority Escrow Tranfers Company. All of them want you to send money to "resolve" the sales etc. If any of them were legitimate, they should be able to deduct these monies from the proceeds we are supposed to receive, even if it had to be done through an attorney. Maybe it is the same company operating under a different name in a different state because they have all of our past details with Sierra. Do not send money. Glomick@telus.net

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StuartG
Sunderland, GB
Apr 01, 2011 11:03 pm EDT
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Remember - when they want money up front they are in a position to walk away with it. Same as Sierra Rentals& Sales did before. Ask for their address and solicitors address - check them (if they ever send them to you!) against a list of solicitors to prove they are valid. We are all on this website because this lot have scammed us before. Who's to say it's not the same lot once again with different aliases. BE VERY CAREFUL - but have fun with them if you want!
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c.berry
Austin, US
Apr 08, 2011 8:06 pm EDT

I have also been scammed by Sierra. I was told I needed to pay a fee to the Mexican government and after I paid over 1500 they dissapeared. Then about two weeks ago I was contacted by Priority Escrow and was told that Sierra never paid these fees on my behalf and if I wish to continue I needed to pay 1470 for this fee. I was reluctant but did pay. I received my check yesterday in the mail. I just wanted to share my experience. please feel free to email me at corry.berry58@yahoo.com

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 8:12 pm EDT
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Hi Everyone...I was also part of the scam regarding Sierra Rentals. I also received a call today from Robert Daniels of Nevada with the Company Stuart mentioned Priority Escrow Transfers Company. They say that the money will be paid out in 5 days if I submit $1470.00 to the Mexican Gov't for the money to be released. No they don't want a credit card..they want a cheque. I said since Sierra got my money in the first place why not use that or take out of the money that I am suppose to get...well that is not possible. I said I would be in Mexico the first week of May and asked where I would have to go to give the money..he gave me an address; however I am waiting for an email from them and will relay what it says. I am not giving anyone money..how difficult would that be to stop payment LMAO

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 8:18 pm EDT
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corry berry can you email me..brendahines@eastlink.ca. I would like to talk about your experience with Priority Escrow.

Thank you

Brenda

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StuartG
Sunderland, GB
Apr 08, 2011 8:22 pm EDT
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Anyone heard of this corrie.berry58@yahoo.com before now? Convenient turn-up for some group who may benefit from somebody suddenly claiming they have been paid out. (Just the sort of spur some wavering souls might fall for!) Cynical - yup I am - let's face it they scammed money out of all of us before! StuartG

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 8:25 pm EDT
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I am starting to think the same thing!

Wishful thinking that we could be looked after

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 8:27 pm EDT
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By the way if this group from Nevada can't get in touch with Sierra, how the hell did they get my information?

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c.berry
Austin, US
Apr 08, 2011 8:40 pm EDT

I'm sorry I added my 2cents just sharing my experience. Do what you feel is right for you.

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 8:49 pm EDT
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Hey Cory...as we have all had a bad experience and as I explained to Robert Daniels from Priority...how can we trust anyone regarding our timeshares in Mexico. I had never been scammed before and when you get a call like this it makes you wonder. Two months ago got a call from West Palm Brokers who wanted to pay me out..that was a scam too, which I did not fall for...guess what... his number is disconnected.. How the hell do they find us?

Brenda

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 9:19 pm EDT
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Hey all I found this company...went to hotfrog.com They are on this site...

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 08, 2011 9:45 pm EDT
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I contacted the BBB in Boulder ..made a mistake earlier Priority is from Boulder, COL. not Nevada..can't see to get Sierra out of my head. They have been in business for 6 years and have had no complaints. I am still waiting for an email from Priority and will share ..

Brenda
Canada

anyone have anything to add..I can be reached at brendahines@eastlink.ca

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MissMarie
South Pasadena, US
Apr 09, 2011 3:19 am EDT

Cory, you may want to make sure your check clears first before offering testimonials on behalf of Priority Escrow Transfers... Keep us posted please.

Brenda, the file on Priority Escrow Transfers was just opened with the BBB end of Jan this year - according to the info on BBB's site. If they've been in business for 6years then there should be more info regarding their company but, there is not much listed. I'm still not convinced the company is legit and would recommend everyone to be very cautious when approached by these so called "Escrow" companies. These types of escrow scrams are happening more and more often and are befalling the most innocent, unsuspecting, hardworking individuals. Will post again if anything of worth happens. marie8682w@aol.com

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c.berry
Austin, US
Apr 11, 2011 5:33 pm EDT

Sorry for the delay in posting and I will reply to the emails later today. The check has cleared and in my opinion Priority Escrow was just caught in the middle.

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 11, 2011 5:49 pm EDT
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Look forward to hearing from Cory...do have a copy of the statement that came with the cheque?

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 14, 2011 1:18 pm EDT

good morning all ... we too have been contacted by priority escrow transfers out of Boulder CO. before we give them any money --- we have 2 time shares --- i will be checking with Boulder Police's Fraud Department, and american express and visa credit card fraud departments as well. i will be calling the phone company's fraud department to determine how long the phone lines have been in place and if possible, check with the state of Colorado to see if priority escrow transfer company is in good standing. Certificate of Good Standings are required annually for every business entity in every state - this became a requirement after 9/11. I work for a bank so I am very familiar with all of these avenues. I will post again as I make headway. my email address is barbaraflemingnj@yahoo.com.

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markap6
US
Apr 14, 2011 3:52 pm EDT

I checked the ownership of the site www.priorityescrowtransfers.com - it was created Sept 11, 2010, not 6 years ago by any means. I'm pretty convinced this is a fraud

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jaimeelaw
West Reading, US
Apr 14, 2011 4:14 pm EDT
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I spoke with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office and the Nevada Attorney General's office. They are of the opinion that Priority Escrow is being run by the same group as Sierra. These types of businesses routinely set up shop in one state, using a suite as a billing address. They get your money and move on to the next city and state. They warned that you should never have to put money up front to get money back when selling a timeshare. They also said the whole timeshare industry is full of corruption and thieves. I am not willing to lose any more money! Go on ebay and search "timeshare" and you will see a bunch listed for as little as a penny! Do not waste any more money on these scams that claim you can make money off your timeshare. Jaimeelaw@gmail.com

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 14, 2011 4:26 pm EDT
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Hello again...I checked with a Timeshare Company here in Canada who is ligit in selling/2nd ownership/rentals and they have confirmed with me that this Company is a FRAUD...do not send money!

Brenda

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 14, 2011 6:16 pm EDT

I just called my credit card company to dispute the original sierra fee. The charge was processed by Resort Advantage Vacation. Normally a consumer has 60 days from the statement date to dispute a charge HOWEVER because this transaction is a "contract" and we were getting updates periodically regarding progress under the contract, we can make a case for "breach of contract". I have to send in copies of the contract, all correspondences, emails, and bounced back emails. Credit card company will investigate and hopefully I will be reimbursed. fyi ... Credit card company has no other complaints on record for either company - Sierra Resorts or Resort Advantage Vacation.

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StuartG
Sunderland, GB
Apr 14, 2011 6:19 pm EDT
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Thanks everyone for your inputs! We must remember - if it looks too good to be true then it probably isn't! Keep your hard earned in your pockets!
StuartG

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Larry R R
Torbay, CA
Apr 14, 2011 7:52 pm EDT

Good Day Could anyone let me know is Priorty Escrow Transfers a fraud or not? They phone and ask for $1470.00 Fideicomiso tax due to the Mexican gov't then they called and ask for $3360.00 due to the Mexican gov't for an IVA tax TK's Larry

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mike0045
Merrimack, US
Apr 14, 2011 8:23 pm EDT

all:
I am also one of the unfortunates that fell for the Sierra deal to sell my 1Br at Sandos Caracol, went through all the checklists, paperwork, and sent the $1505 for 'closing costs', and $995 for 'taxes' in Mexico. Was left holding the empty bag where my money was at the time I was expecting payout.

I was just contacted by Priorty escrow Transfers, the contacts I spoke to are Ryan Nissen and Robert Daniels, looking to cancel or close my timeshare sale through Sierra, but are asking for fee of $1470 for a 'title search. They pushed for a wire transfer, but was willing to take a 'Paypal' payment; though my expected payout was 30 days instead of 5-10 days if I did the bank wire.

Priority claimed that Sandos was trying to 'prevent' the transfer of the properties to a corporation, and that the buyer paid the $1470 for a title transfer fee

Did anyone actually get proceeds of their sale from Priority Escrow Transfers?

Mike
tiptoeace@hotmail.com

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StuartG
Sunderland, GB
Apr 15, 2011 7:37 am EDT
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Title Search, Transfer Fee, Mexican Government Tax etc.etc.etc. - a rose by any other name smells the same! In this instance please read some of the above which advocate the following - DO NOT PAY ANYTHING UPFRONT!
IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR MONEY UPFRONT IT IS NORMALLY A SCAM!
If I can stop just one or two from making the mistakes I made - and prevent them from getting any more money from their scams - then it's worthwhile.
I cannot forget what they did to us and all the others who were similarly promised payout etc.
Read through many of the above comments for similar comments.

StuartG

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 15, 2011 3:51 pm EDT

please post here what address Priority Escrow Transfer is using in Boulder. We were given 1800 Broadway. I have a left a message for the property manager of this building. Wanted to check if there are multiple addresses going around. Thanks

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 15, 2011 7:33 pm EDT

ok folks ... THIS IS 100% FRAUD! eVIDENCE: 1) there is NO business license in the entire state of Colorado (strike 1); Property Manager of the Building has no tenant by that name (strike 2); requested buyers name and information on bank holding the escrow monies --- Sophia York said she couldn't give me buyer name and did not have the bank informaiton handy (strick 3); asked Ms York who Robert Daniels and Ryan Nissen was -- she got real nervous (strike 4); told her that I am in contact with other sellers that they have called she got more nervous (strike 5); then asked her who the property management co was that they paid rent to and CLICK she hung up (strike 6) .. YOU'RE OUT! Please do not give these folks any money. If have filed an FBI complaint as of today. If you paid Sierra by credit card and have the contract agreement and the subsequent updates via email (we got several) - then you can make a case for breach of contract with your credit card company since you were expecting services to be completed once all the units had been secured. please feel free to email if you want to chat directly ... barbaraflemingnj@yahoo.com

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mike0045
Merrimack, US
Apr 15, 2011 7:43 pm EDT

Priority Escrow Transfers address:
1800 Broadway St, Suite 300
Boulder, CO 80302
P/N [protected], FAX [protected]
Contacts: Robert Daniels, Ryan Nissen

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 15, 2011 10:41 pm EDT
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Hello again...don't we wish all of this would go away...I was so upset over last year and thought it was done and I was over it. Well I contacted Priority again to scare and manipulate them like they are doing to us and sent along a very vocal email...so far I have spoke to Steve who is clueless! Spoke to Ryan and Robert what a joke. In no way am I paying any money, however I spoke to Visa today about this fraud and they have my record from last year..but because we had to dispute this within 30 days of our statement there is nothing they can do. I reported Sierra last year in April, however because they strung us along..have no recourse! Barbara is there a difference between a dispute and breach of contract with Visa? I am on a mission now and will report this to our RCMP equiv to the FBI. I am also in Mexico the 7th of May and going to take all documents to Sando's where our private information was compromised by them. They are taking no responsibility for these actions. Still interesting that Cory B has cowered and cannot back himself up with documents or proof he received money LOL

This is a great site to make sure that no one else gets taken...do not become a victim again!

brendahines@eastlink.ca
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

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mb12
Hewitt, US
Apr 15, 2011 11:05 pm EDT
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Amen sister...but we got scammed before we found this site, it is not really any comfort we were not the only ones though... they should be prosecuted to the fullest extend a repay every single penny they stole from us!

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 16, 2011 2:11 am EDT

Brenda and Every1 ...Merrill Lynch / BofA is my credit card company. Because we have a contract to perform a service to close on a sale and that sale did not take place - there is a breach of contract. We have at least one email from Sierra that stated that it could take up to 1 year to secure all of the necessary units to close the sale thus we could not have reported fraud because none had taken place since the transaction was still pending. We received periodic updates throughout the year from Sierra thus again we thought everything was still on track. The updates included a checklist and the number of units secured so far. When did not realize this was a scam until in February 2011 when we reached out for our periodic update and the emails bounced back. That's when we also realized that the phone numbers were disconnected. we save every document and email (thank goodness). I have to fill out some paperwork for the bank and forward all of my documentation. this has to be reviewed by the bank - but the rep stated that under breach of contract I probably have a good case. I will keep everyone up to date. Barbara

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barbaraf
Durham, US
Apr 16, 2011 12:00 pm EDT

this is 100% fraud. please email at barbaraflemingnj@yahoo.com. these criminals are monitoring this complaint board. I will give you lots more information... do not give them anything

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mike0045
Merrimack, US
Apr 20, 2011 9:04 pm EDT

Here's another p/n for Priority Escrow Transfers:
[protected]

I tried to get wire transfer information from them, but they 'bailed' on me. If they contact any of you on 'closing your transfer', request the wire forms.

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witliv
Greenbelt, US
Apr 27, 2011 10:58 pm EDT

Ive been ripped off too smh

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BRH
Fall River, CA
Apr 27, 2011 11:23 pm EDT
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I received mine weeks ago just to have for proof and sent them off to Barbara to use. They have not contacted me since..LOL

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Belinda44
Kamloops, CA
Mar 12, 2012 8:08 pm EDT
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DO NOT DO THIS! This is a scam! I have been scammed by this company a lot of money - I sooooo hope you did not give these ###s any of your money! Some people need to go out and get a realjob instead of stealing money from innocent people!

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NJ Resident
Bloomingdale, US
Mar 29, 2012 3:01 pm EDT
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Torrenza and Sierra are a bunch of shysters. Karma will come and bite them in the butt.

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Belinda44
Kamloops, CA
Mar 31, 2012 7:23 am EDT
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I really hope so as I'm out a lot of money because of them! Still would be open to class action suit if we could locate these guys. I can't believe they are so stupid to start the same scam and using the same names! DUH!

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Gloria Stoner
Kelowna, CA
Mar 31, 2012 10:33 am EDT
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After Priority comes another company called Meritage Management out of Salt Lake City. Same old same old. Another scam. They go on and on but with different companies who must be receiving information from original lists.Gloria Stoner Canada

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Feb 16, 2013 5:25 pm EST
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Yes you did. Lloydshare is a complete scam.

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