Mormon church review: Harassment 175

Mormon missionaries are usually young men. That's why women never came to you. In addition, they were kind enough to relocate you and your family. You should be grateful.

The Mormans are nothing but a CULT!, not unlike Jim Jones & all the rest of the false religions we see these days. They are by no means Christians by any definition! Rather, they will spend all of Eternity in Hell & the Lake of Fire with satan, his demons & all the rest of the unrepentant & liers. If I were you, I'd get a Court Order against them to prevent them from contacting you.

Am I? I'll tell you (& everyone else) what's insane.
The Mormans aka: LDS teach that Jesus & satan are "spirit brothers! That's outright BLASPHEMY! They (you?) have "Holy Underwear" which they must stay in contact with at all times! They teach that God Almighty is on some outerspace planet with His wives having "spiritual children" ! They believe the "book of morman" rather than the Holy [Christian] Bible! Joseph Smith, )founder of the morman "church") & his family were involved in the occult, for which he was arrested in 1826!
These are just some of the little known facts of the Morman/LDS Cult. Now who's insane?!

FYI; I have done a lot of research on morman/LDS, JWs, & others, but NONE of my research was done on line. Therefore YOU have no clue what you are talking about. And just because you are one of them, you can not justify your false teachings/beliefs! Your use of profanity is yet more proof of your non-Christian un-repentance! Lastly, if you're so bored, why do you continue to read & reply?

Please don't misunderstand me, I don't hate or even dislike them. I feel sorry for them because "very nice people" won't carry any weight on the Day of Judgement!

DB2010: You're making it pretty clear that you're just trying to push some sort of Christian agenda. Respect the faiths of others just as you wish for others to respect your faith.

I can not & do not respect false teachings. Peoples ETERNITY depend on TRUTH! Would you also have me respect the Muslim faith which teachings led them to attack us (America)?

You do not have to respect the actual teachings themselves. You should however respect that people are entitled to believe what they choose to believe without judgement by someone who believes different. In respect to your faith, shouldn't God/Jesus be the only ones judging others, and not you?

Jesus Christ (who IS God Almighty) said: "By their fruits you shall know them".

What kind of fruit am I? I'm not a fruit at all. I'm A child of God! He is my Saviour, Lord & Master! And no, I'm not Pentecostal. And I KNOW that I have an Eternal Home in Heaven! How about you?

He is God. John 10:30 "I and the Father are one".

DB2010: It must take a lot of practice to become as judgemental as you are.

I do have it right. Please look up John 10:30
As for the state of this present world, He also gave Humankind free will. He will act though. He's going to return in infinite Power & Glory. Then all those who reject Him & practice evil will pay...FOREVER!
And no, God is not absent. He's just allowing time for more to come to Him, He is a Loving & Patient God.

JerseyGut 46; I assume your last 2 questions were ask in jest? If not, then you need to know that the time for repentance (yours & everyone else) is NOW, before you die. Or BEFORE He returns if He comes in our lifetime. As for Hitler, Stalin & all like them, it's too late.

Many People dont realize the Mormons in Utah are different than the ones in other states, they wont let people really see them as who they really are in Utah... They do a lot of sick poop with foreign women, bringing them here to help and leave them stranded and then taking advantage of. they drink and smoke in their closets, and then gamble in border towns across the state lines in nevada towns, they are tied to polygamist fundamentalists, they will try to get you to talk about them only to find out if they can trust you or if you think bad of them...they will only help their own with jobs, and double tax liquor and tobacco, which they own, and fund with their church of LDS... they repositioned their leader facing his ### to the church and hand to the bank to get rid of the irony and media attention. The Bishops and Elder missionaries are involved in sex crimes and sex trafficking with foreign women. they bring for jobs etc; Pretty sick people. they have also done something to make more women babies in their families to be their servants and to repopulate and grow their religion and to seduce men to convert their babies... the LDS is a Business. many people dont realize they barely let blacks in their Church and let other religions or people of other religions in their Church by force of the US Supreme Court in 1981 . These people are hypocrits on purpose, with their hidden agendas. They are evil, and their prison in Utah, shows their sex crimes is their first priority in their state religion. They have their greedy filthy hands in every profiteering scheme or business, or you wont make it there.

the Bible says, the church that says 3 times holiness to the lord... is the false religion... and also says the book who takes the bible out of context or adds or takes from it will be done the same to... The LDS church has holiness to the lord on their main tabernacle in Salt Lake City on their golden window inscribed 3 times.

Jehovah's Witness? ANOTHER CULT!

OMG LMAO! Some of these comments are funny, some of them are food for thought. There is no point of arguing. People believe whomever they chose. This situation doesn't just happen w/ Mormons it happens with a lot of different religons.
@Tonya, maybe you should have looked at other alternatives such as women abuse shelters or a women against violence, something of that nature to get help. If they are really harrassing you and you don't want to be bothered, you should let them know or if it's really that bad, maybe you should get a restraining order. Regardless if she used them (not saying you did) to get out of your situation or not, they can't force themselves or their religion on you. However, you should have known what you were getting yourself into before and asked questions or done research hun. Not the first time I heard that about Mormons though. And it's not the religion that's " bad" or whatever (someone said about muslims attacking us), it's the people and the stupid choices they make and as the saying goes one bad apple spoils the bunch.

It is VERY obvious that your "story, ' which that is what it REALLY is, is nothing but lies. Lets be honest for once shall we? Not asking too much am I?

First off, they DO NOT put anything in their water, as it is tap water they use, and that can be city water and yes depending on what city you live in, it can taste funny. But the first clue to your lies is when you mentioned about their "communion, " which if you really knew anything about the LDS church (actual name of the church your speaking of, or more specfically, The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints) then you would know that they DO NOT have communion, Catholics do and maybe other faiths. The LDS church have "Sacrament." Same purpose, but different, as the LDS church does not use wine or wafers. But the water does represent the blood.

So I would get your facts right, before you go speaking of something you know nothing about. And the the LDS church do have Women missionaries. So it's not just the men who make visits to members places of residences.

Now something you have got to understand, is that there ARE people that call themselves, "Mormons" but they ARE NOT members of the LDS church and therefor ARE NOT reconized as members. And they themselves will even attest to that FACT. If you want to learn the TRUTH about the LDS church, then visit their official websites. www.lds.org & www.mormon.org

What's the best way to learn the truth about something/someone? By asking them. Not someone who is not a member or has something against them, enough to make up lies. Think about this: Would you go to a Ford dealership and ask about a Chevy vehicle? NO! So why would you go to a Baptist church and ask about the Islamic faith? Ummmmmmmmmmm

I thoroughly investigated the Mormon Church. While they don't put GHB in their water, they ARE pests. It is a white male supremacist cult and thoroughly sexist and misogynist. If women had any status at all (except as breeders) in this cult, they SHOULD HAVE HAD THE SENSATIVITY to know you don't come to the aid of a woman who has been abused by a spouse, WITH A CROWD OF MEN! Mormon women take a vow of obedience to their husbands. Women carry out no official business in this cult because of their sexist dogma. Hence, this already frightened woman was indeed bullied by the "boy's club". How do I know this? Because I was a member for an entire year before I could no longer stand the disrespect for women. And what was finally the breaking point? When one of the "elder" 18-yr-old "missionary's" (Mormon speak for door-to-door salesmen) told my husband he and his partner had no where to stay. So my naive husband invited them to stay at OUR house. Whereupon, they proceeded to ask me to play "strip poker" w/ them, (while he was at work!) and one of them TOOK MY HAND AND PUT IT ON HIS ERECT P****! What kind of behavior can one expect from men who are taught that women have but one purpose. Indeed, this is a cult that was founded by their "prophet and revelator", Joseph Smith, when he got a little "randy" and decided that one, or even two women weren't enough for him. How does one excuse immoral womanizing? Just say "God told me to do it". Yep, that makes it alright. Church of "Jesus Christ" of Latter Day Saints is a misnomer. I never heard the name of Jesus Christ being taught or preached. In fact, the ONLY time I ever heard the name of Jesus Christ was as a kind of punctuation at the end of prayer. It is the "Church" of Joseph Smith of "Latter Day Saints". Thus, their claim to be "Christians" is also erroneous. Perhaps "Smithians" might be more accurate? The bible doesn't NEED rewriting. So why does this cult send "door to door salesmen"? What are they selling? The Mormon "Church" is big business and regularly has ads on TV. If it looks like merchandising, acts like merchandising, then it probably IS merchandising.

I'm sorry that you were harassed in California. Which Mormon church harassed you? I spent the first 17 years of my life without the church. We don't have that kind of harassment here in my part of Maryland, or in Provo, Utah. I hope you find the kind loving people that I have. I am NOT saying that the only place that I have found kind and loving people are in my church; but I must say that out of the people I know from my church, a very high percentage of them are the kindest most loving people I know. I believe this is because the Church teaches correct principles, and a person learns THE WAY to act. Some members, when first entering the Church are so enthusiastic about the newfound gospel, that they may come across too strong. Maybe argumentative. But that's the exception rather than the rule.

Some of the comments made about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints having a lot of money (like it's a bad thing) is probably true. Money talks, and it's easier to help the needy if you are wealthy. This church probably is one of the biggest reasons why there aren't many, many, many more homeless people than there are. My husband and I have been prevented more than once from being put out on the street due to illness and it's subsequent lack of money. The money for this is collected from the members who fast once/month and give money that they would have spent on food to the needy. They often give 2 or more times the amount of money. I am thankful to the faithful members of the church who sacrificed so that the needy have a roof over their heads. I think that homelessness is one of society's biggest problems today. Without the Church, our society would be a worse place to live. I'm thankful they have the money they do. I know of more than just myself who had to be rescued from homelessness and hunger. I'm glad that I had taken part in helping to can food for the needy, so that I don't have to feel so sheepish accepting the bounty of food that they gave me. God helps us through others. Tithing and offerings which are the way that He helps the needy. "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse; for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, sayeth the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven. and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." (Malachi 3: 8, 9)

If the story about the strip poker is true (doubt it):
Every faith will have unsavory figures. Christianity has its fair share of creeps too. Just because you believe in a faith does not mean you represent a whole.

just a thought... Christianity is not really a religion. it's a way of living, and following the guy who actually died for your sins...
JESUS. the bible just tells us how to accept him and know him better. do following cults or groups aint the right thing,
but following that little voice in your head, called conscience is the right way.
@ sweet sag if you don't feel u gotta giv ur tithe to the bishop.. don't... just give you tithe to someone who is really in
need. easy picks could be like, orphans in Sudan.
and yup... tithes should come from the heart, no one should ask you for it. if you don't feel right in one church look
for another. if you can't just lock your door and pray that u might find one.
@DB nice arguments. but you gotta always remember Jesus loves everyone now and does not accuse anyone.
as a christian i believe we should do the same too.
...always open for comments :p :)

http://ftc.gov/opa/2010/12/iworks.shtm

Jeremy Johnson FTC lawsuit is valued over 500 Million dollars.
- Jeremy Johnson and Todd Vowel are actively involved in money laundering. Jeremy Johnson, Todd Vowel, Jason Vowels, Bryce Payne, Jason Peterson, Paul Ford, Duane Fielding, Ryan Riddle are all MAIN TARGETS in a criminal investigation from the FDIC for money laundering.
- Jeremy Johnson has over 10 million hidden in the mountains of St George
- Jeremy Johnson has illegally paid Mark Shurtleff thousands of dollars through various “ shell companies” along with Cory Pulsipher the active sheriff.
- Jeremy Johnson has lost over 15 million gambling at Wynn Las Vegas.

Contact: Jeremy Johnson directly: [protected]
FTC Contact: Collot Guerard: [protected]
AG Contact: Mark Shurtleff [protected], [protected]
Senate Contact Bob Bennett: [protected]

For Release: 12/22/2010
FTC Charges Massive Internet Enterprise with Scamming Consumers Out of Millions Billing Month-After-Month for Products and Services They Never Ordered
Defendants Allegedly Created 51 Shell Companies to Carry Out Deception
The Federal Trade Commission is taking legal action against a far-reaching Internet enterprise that allegedly has made millions of dollars by luring consumers into “trial” memberships for bogus government-grant and money-making schemes, and then repeatedly charging them monthly fees for these and other memberships that they never signed up for. The FTC seeks to stop the illegal practices and make the defendants pay redress to consumers and give up their ill-gotten gains.
“No consumer should be sucker-punched into making payments for products they don’t know about and don’t want, ” said FTC Chairman Jon Leibowitz.
The FTC’s complaint alleges that the defendants offer consumers bogus money-making and government-grant opportunities. They claim that the offers are “free” or “risk-free, ” and that they will charge customers only a small shipping and handling fee.
According to the FTC’s complaint, the operation, doing business under the name I Works and controlled by Jeremy Johnson and nine other individuals, uses websites that tout the availability of government grants to pay personal expenses or pitch various money-making programs. The websites offer “free” information at no risk and ask consumers to provide their credit or debit card numbers to pay for a small shipping and handling fee such as $1.99. When consumers provide their billing information, though, I Works proceeds to charge them hefty one-time fees of up to $129.95 and monthly recurring fees of up to $59.95 for the grant or money-making programs. I Works charges them additional monthly fees for one or more unrelated programs that consumers did not agree to.
The FTC’s complaint alleges that this scheme has caused hundreds of thousands of consumers to seek chargebacks – reversals of charges to their credit cards or debits to their banks accounts. The high number of chargebacks has landed the defendants in VISA’s and MasterCard’s chargeback monitoring programs, resulted in millions of dollars in fines for excessive chargebacks, and prevented the defendants from getting access to the credit card and debit card billing systems using their own names. To keep the scam going, the defendants tricked banks into giving them continued access to these billing systems by creating 51shell companies with figurehead officers, and by providing the banks with phony “clean” versions of their websites.
The FTC has charged the defendants with violating the FTC Act by misrepresenting that government grants are available for paying personal expenses, that consumers are likely to obtain grants by using the defendants’ program, that users of their money-making products will earn substantial income, and that their offers are free or risk-free. The complaint also alleges that defendants failed to disclose that consumers who pay a nominal shipping and handling fee will be enrolled in expensive plans that charge consumers fees until they cancel, and that the defendants charged consumers’ credit cards and debited their bank accounts without their consent.
In addition, the FTC alleges that defendants posted deceptive positive reviews and used deceptive testimonials that misrepresented the benefits of their grant services. Finally, the FTC has charged the defendants with violating the Electronic Fund Transfer Act and Regulation E by debiting consumers’ bank accounts without their signed written consent and without providing consumers with a copy of the written authorization.
As alleged in the complaint, the defendants gained access to the Visa and MasterCard systems through many entities. The banks included Wells Fargo, N.A., HSBC Bank USA, First Regional Bank, Harris National Association, and Columbus Bank and Trust Company. The payment processors the defendants used included First Data, ECHO, Global Payment Systems, Litle & Co., Moneris, Payment Tech, Trident, and Vital, as well as independent sales organizations, including CardFlex, RDK Inc., Merchant eSolutions, Pivotal Payments, PowerPay, and Swipe Merchant Solutions.

The FTC complaint names 10 individuals, 10 corporations, and 51 shell companies as defendants. As alleged in the complaint, the lynchpin of the enterprise is Jeremy Johnson, the sole owner and officer of I Works Inc., which has done business under numerous names. The FTC’s complaint names Johnson and nine other individual defendants: Duane Fielding; Andy Johnson; Loyd Johnston; Scott Leavitt; Scott Muir; Bryce Payne; Kevin Pilon; Ryan Riddle; and Terrason Spinks. In addition, the 10 corporate defendants are: I Works Inc.; Anthon Holdings Corp.; Cloud Nine Marketing Inc.; CPA Upsell Inc.; Elite Debit Inc.; Employee Plus Inc.; Internet Economy Inc.; Market Funding Solutions Inc.; Network Agenda LLC; and Success Marketing Inc.
The 51 shell companies named in the complaint are Big Bucks Pro Inc., Blue Net Progress Inc., Blue Streak Processing Inc., Bolt Marketing Inc., Bottom Dollar Inc., doing business as BadCustomer.com, Bumble Marketing Inc., Business First Inc., Business Loan Success Inc., Cold Bay Media Inc., Costnet Discounts Inc., CS Processing Inc., Cutting Edge Processing Inc., Diamond J. Media Inc., Ebusiness First Inc., Ebusiness Success Inc., Ecom Success Inc., Excess Net Success Inc., Fiscal Fidelity Inc., Fitness Processing Inc., Funding Search Success Inc., Funding Success Inc., GG Processing Inc., GGL Rewards Inc., Highlight Marketing Inc., Hooper Processing Inc., Internet Business Source Inc., Internet Fitness Inc., Jet Processing Inc., JRB Media Inc., Lifestyles For Fitness Inc., Mist Marketing Inc., Money Harvest Inc., Monroe Processing Inc., Net Business Success Inc., Net Commerce Inc., Net Discounts Inc., Net Fit Trends Inc., Optimum Assistance Inc., Power Processing Inc., Premier Performance Inc., Pro Internet Services Inc., Razor Processing Inc., Rebate Deals Inc., Revive Marketing Inc., Simcor Marketing Inc., Summit Processing Inc., The Net Success Inc., Tranfirst Inc., Tran Voyage Inc., Unlimited Processing Inc., and Xcel Processing Inc.
The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0. The complaint was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada.
NOTE: The Commission authorizes the filing of a complaint when it has “reason to believe”
that the law has been or is being violated, and it appears to the Commission that a proceeding is in the public interest. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendants have actually violated the law.
The Federal Trade Commission works for consumers to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices and to provide information to help spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish, visit the FTC’s online Complaint Assistant or call 1-877-FTC-HELP [protected]). The FTC enters complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to more than 1, 800 civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad. The FTC’s Web site provides free information on a variety of consumer topics.
MEDIA CONTACT:
Office of Public Affairs
[protected]
STAFF CONTACT:
Collot Guerard
Bureau of Consumer Protection
[protected]
(FTC File No. 1023015)
(I Works)

I am an internet troll,
I find this site to be hillarious,
my name is An Average Communist,
and I am not a Morman.

I have nevber read such ignorance as those this person has posted. You are so full of it I can smell you upwind. No one "harrassed" you, no one "drugged" your water. You can be written off as nothing but the complete crackpot you are. No doubt you actually attend some southern church where anyone who chooses to call himself a "preacher" can do do without requiring any education. Your rant is total crap and while I wager you don't know that yourself, any thinking person can see right through you.

I am a member or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. If you are not a member of the church, but yet received assistance in moving and other related expenses, then how can you possibly speak this way? Monies for assistance of any kind is paid out of Fast Offerings. We are commanded to pay a 10% tithe, but fast offerings (though a commandment) are up to our free will and generosity. Of course if the church helped you I could see it as very reasonable the members would feel a sense of duty to share their message with you. It would almost seem that your own gratitude would lead you to want to learn more about a church who would enable a complete stranger. Isn't that very little to ask in return for the countless hours spent to assist you and money provided?

The Mormons that tried that helped helped me litterly inserted their penises inside of me

Come on people, grow up. Everyone has a rite to worship who they want. Whatever makes you happy. You have gay people in the world, we need to leave them alone. If they are happy, not our worries. Same as religion. Im LDS but I am happy for what I belive in. I am not the best mormon in the world, but I do not judge others. Jesus did not judge, why do we?

Hahahahha is this chick for real? Hahahahah this is the best post ever.

You ### "The only prophet I see in this Church is the profit they get from Members hard earned money. It is just a scam" with that profit they relocated you!

The Mormon's drugged your sacrament water? Now I've heard everything. Eating the bread and drinking the water is remembrance of the body and blood of Jesus Christ! You have mistaken the warm embrace of Jesus for being drugged. HAHAHA

FYI I'm not Mormon.

@I Like Cookies 2
WTF are you smoking? The Catholics sweep the child molestations under the rug, not the Mormons. Forbid people to marry? Forbid people to have premartial sex yes, marry no. The Mormon church strongly believes in family and most of their beliefs revolve around being married for all eternity.

Put down the crack pipe!

@jdh55 and cookies

OK, If you're talking about Catholics then I agree... LOL

Cookies, what are you talking about? People get married all of the time in the LDS (Morman) church. Also, if there is any form of sexual abuse within the church, it is handled by both law enforcement and the church. You should get your facts straight.

What's the Catholic Chruch? Did you mean the Catholic Church? It appears you may be ###ed after all because you can't spell. There's the possibility that you can't read as well. Please review the statement about checking your spelling before submitting comments.

Mmm... "dickwad" I've heard, but I have to say I've never heard of the phrase "frog tampon" before. Is there a copyright on it because I find it to be both amusing and original? I'd love to use it in my own phraseology in the future.

You should have never asked them for any help.

Yes I am in Canada and all I did was fill out a request for more info info from these people and then closed the page on my browser. Now someone from this outfit phones me every other day. The first caller said i needed a credit card and it would only cost me $150 I told him I have no credit cards and I have bad credit. That seemed to put him off but 2 days later a different guy phones and says the first guy was BS'ing me and I could use PayPal Needless to say I brushed him off because obviously this smelled like a scam. The last call I got I got verbally abusive and told them to F Off Haven't heard from them since but who knows. These guys are BAD NEWS! AL

I find it sad that so many people around the world seem to think they need to belong to some kind of organized religion Jesus never said that we had to have churches and he definitely did not say that we need set other people on platforms(ministers, priests, etc.) and confer on them the power to somehow magically be the only channels of communication between us and God. Take a look at the Gnostics and their history and look at the Nag Hammadi texts and read the Apocrypha (Gospel of Mary). Jesus was viewed as a radical thinker and a dissident and religious leaders of his time hated him.because he told people we all are just like him and all of us can have a personal relationship with God without the need for any form of organized religious claptrap. Sorry to all you people I am sure to be offending but why don't you all try being spiritualists. Like Sri Chinmoy says "Religion is just the stepping to spirituality" and this from a defrocked Catholic priest who dared to speak this way publicly in the 70's " I don't need anyone between me and my Jesus" AL

@alibaba
I can see why being a "Spiritualist" is so appealing. You make your own rules, you follow your own standards. You get to define your own spirituality. Somehow i dont think that was Jesus's gospel. And by the way...a spiritualist is someone who communicates with the dead. Like a phychic medium. Not sure if thats what you meant.

Now lets reason together a bit. I think we can agree that people on this earth have one God or Creator - logically God has one truth - logically he wants us to know the truth - logically he wants us to follow his truth - logically he wont teach us in person but through someone - now logically who do you think he would trust to teach us such an important message? In the Bible its called a Prophet. Now im not saying organized religion is not currupt, because it can be. But if God organized a religion or a church with prophets he chose to teach us his truth so we can follow him correctly, would that be such a bad thing? Or would it be better to have a God who doesnt care what we believe as long as we dont hurt others and are good "spiritualists" (whatever that means). Now would you say that if there is a God that it would be blasphemy to think that he would organize a church on earth through which his prophets taught his true gospel?