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Writing it again because of one ugly word I used in the last one so not having got through. This company used to employ me for 2 months. Already so much have I written on them that I don't feel like repeating myself. To cut the story short, they use "vulnerable" people to make money for themselves (e.g. longterm unemployed or foreigners as me who apparently have lower rights) and not pay them the due wages and bully them.
They run an ongoing recruitment process which is a mockery at the word "recruitment". Then after a few days 90%resign not getting paid. The others cherish hope to earn good money and strive still on. They can use every excuse in order to avoid payment of the wages.
For example their T&C's state that after you had visited the property, you must prepare fully formatted blunder-free Excel version of the inventory in 24 hours, and also send it with the pictures. Which is in most case not physically possible when you are given a couple of estates to visit a day. So you travel round london 9am-9pm and then you are "obliged" to sit and work through the night on your reports (remember - any blunder as even small misspelling can exclude you from paying in 100% and so can also the lack of photos or photos being not ideal - at their discretion). Next day to work remember!
If you have submitted e.g. 79 reports for the month behind you and you still are behind with a single one, or you don't have a set of pics for any one of the 80 lets say jobs, you will not get paid for the whole month. You will never see a payslip whatsoever. They give you small advances (as they call them) for survival - 150 pounds a week or every two weeks.
By the way, "advances" are money that are not yet due to workers (if you were paid for the last month and before the end of another). After money's due (after 1st month) the cash pays cannot be called advances if the 1st month wages wasn't fully paid out, isn't it? They are installments of money that's already been due to you for some time. And I had to beg them for these "installments" because I said I had no money for tickets to get round to properties and for food and rent.
The issue is now investigated by the employment tribunal. They will probably issue a default payment order. This is not it. Andrew (boss) want to sue me and get back of all those "advances" which asa whole amount to 1290 pounds and he somehow figured out himself the sum of 2000!
This is not it. I was multiple times called on my mobile and intimidated including using swearwords.
Also, he has many times blackmailed me that my payslip will not be done unless I finish this report or the other (but eventually he did not keep his promise when i did those reports). Those behaviors when I reported them to Jobcentre lady were described by her simply as harassment and bullying at work. There are proper paragraphs for it in the law!
Of course the excuse that I shouldn't have been paid those advances he came up with now is that i did not submitted my jobs in 24 hours time (above) and several of the jobs lacked pictures (which delay and lack of pictures he didn't mind AT ALL ALTOGETHER WHATSOEVER before my struggle for my due money with him started thru the Empl.Trib.). I urge you not to try start working for him and if you are an estate agency, I leave it to your wisdom and consideration whether you want to place orders with them for inventory makes or not.
I would better not if I were you. I know the inventory clerk of theirs are very good (me for example) but remember - it's a sly-very based company!
Jean Baptiste, are you considering legal action?
wow I can see that the list of the wronged is gradually and continually increasing!
Darren Russell? Yes, it is definiately Andrew Carlton a few years ago on the picture.
Who would suspect they were employed by a crook and criminal.
And good news - Employment Tribunal issued me with a default judgemnt of late, let's see if he doesn't ignore even this one!
I only wanted to say that Mr. Carlton has finally paid Darnell (he wasn't procrastinating very much) but he is still avoiding to pay the ordered money from the Employment Tribunal to me.
As I said at the beginning I was born in Poland and as a non-English person I was and am treated by him in the same way the non-white British people are, ie. worse than all the white-English employees (I don't have anything against them, but I do hate Mr. Carlton as the only English person [if only he IS English as I heard rumours he is of foreign descent, Middle East, I suggest?])
I have called the ### several times. He obviously "went on holiday" to Seychelles. Well, yes, he eventually economised sme money by failure to pay me.
I am sending the enforcement to the Bow County Court tomorrow.
Remember - do not trade with this fraudster, do not start working for him, don't be involved with him in any way if you want to stay on the safe side, steer clear of Mr. Darren Russell (Mr. Andrew Carlton), Mr. Davidson, Property Concepts UK in 10-16 Tiller Road E14 8PX, and Apple Properties and Homes Direct.
I have also made an appeal that the discrimination and bullying case be proceeded with.
I have too strong and irrefutable proofs to let him go.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
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Reading your comments i feel so Angry, I worked for propert concepts back in 2007 and went through a very similar situation, I was studying to become a black cab driver so i though the job sounded perfect to fit around my studying, however working the long hours then not getting paid turned me into a frustrated and very angry person, I had a couple of months of sporadic pay checks, "errors" in my reports were causing delays, anything really to get out of paying me, I ended up speaking to Andrew over the phone and telling him in no uncertain terms "if my money isn't paid into my account on Monday, I'm gonna wait out side your office for you untill you come out, I then told him we'd either be walking to the nearest bank or hed be in an ambulance to the nearest hospital" the money owed was paid into my account at 9am the following Monday morning, they were bullies to vulnerable people who were desperate for work, as for Andrew he was a typical fly by business man trying to make a quick buck, in other words a ### who buckled the minute I bullied him, I won't give my name as I know he'll remember me well, he'd probably try taking mento court for the threat. If i ever see you Andrew you should walk the other way as reading this complaints from other innocent people it's stoked up the same anger i had for you back in 2007
Property Concepts UK has gone, and started trading as Addlefields Ltd. Andrew Carlton (Darren Russell of old) is still running the show. Addlefields will soon be no more as he is setting up 3 other companies to take over their business. Names to be wary of are Churchill Butler (for Inventories), Castle White Consultancy Ltd (for cleaning) and Oakleighs Maintenance UK. He is still up to his old tricks and not paying his staff. They go months without getting paid and he fights their claims every inch of the way to avoid paying. I have a number of horror stories if anyone needs them (Watchdog...Rogue Trader...). The man is calculating and completely unscrupulous. I worked for him - i know! Craig Davidson is still involved as the name on the Bank details and he still has his loyal close circle of staff who deflect everything for him. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS MAN, AND CERTAINLY DO NOT WORK FOR ANY OF HIS COMPANIES
He is currently running Churchill
Butler inventories, you can contact the slimy worm on [protected]
Call him and tell him what you think of him
URGENT ! URGENT ! URGENT ! URGENT !
This is the NEW very plush offices of Andrew and his staff
145--157 ST JOHNS STREET LONDON EC1V 4PW
[protected] PHONE
works@oakleighs.com
He now has over 10 staff, concierge, waiting rooms he now has added some 7 more estate agents to his business, and has even more Polish workers working for him now.
His business is going from strength to strength
All on our money.
This man has to be stopped. I am doing all I can but whenever I ring watchdog, OFT, Evening Standard I get the same message, "Are you the only compliant?" "are there more of people like you?"
I cant say Yes because they want names and addresses
So folks get of your backsides and start complaining either by phone or email, or old fashioned writing but whatever you do ...COMPLAIN
Witchypoo could you submit more information and maybe set up a email address we all can contact you on. I was scammed by Property Concepts a few years ago, took them to a small claims court and won, paid for bailiffs to get my money and they moved out of the offices in Docklands. Therefore i did not get a penny. I will be willing to take this further to watchdog and rogue traders as what they are doing is very very bad, hours of hard labour from hard working people and he rips them off without a care in the world.
Witchypoo why dont you submit this webpage to those places that you have contacted? I am sure they can blatently see for themselves how many people are unhappy with this cruel cruel man!
Anybody have Andrews Mobile number or email address for direct contact? If possible please forward to me or leave it here as I will be leaving him a nice message to remind him that theres a few bills he needs to pay off. Thanks
Churchill Butler & Addlefields are still at Docklands Business Centre, 10-14 Tiller Road, London, E14 8PX.
http://churchillbutler.com/
Andrew's email: clientservices@addlefields.com, reports@churchillbutler.com, headoffice@churchillbutler.com, customercare@churchillbutler.com
Here's the recruitment agency & advert Churchill Butler are using to deceive jobseekers:
Property Inventory Clerk
Recruiter Sarah Knight Trading As Work-Relief
E: sarah@work-relief.co.uk
W: www.work-relief.co.uk
Location London, South East England
Salary £30.00 - £100.00 per day
Sector Estate Agency - Other Estate Agency
Job Type Part time
Job ref no [protected]
Exciting and expanding property inventory company is expanding their headcount due to increasing work levels and seeks a property inventory clerk to help with the demands.
You will be conducting inventory checks in residential lettings properties across London at the start or end of the tenancy. This will include taking key photo's of the properties and their contents and descriptive dictation to a Dictaphone.
Full training will be provided (although any experience or exposure to property inventories would be a bonus!)
The ideal candidate must have:
Excellent communication skills
An eye for detail
Flexibility
Willingness to travel
Your own digital camera
Salary is dependent on how many inventory checks you complete. You can expect to earn between £25 - £35 per inventory depending on the property size.
To start this role won't be quite full time but this will increase in the future and as much work will be put your way in the meantime.
Work Relief
Rewarding Responsible Employers
The above comments tie in with what I & other employees have experienced, such as delayed wages or being underpaid, unreasonable hours, problems obtaining payslips, tax & national insurance not being paid, staff not trained properly, very high staff turnover e.g. the inventory clerks who "trained" me had only been doing the job for 2 months themselves, we have all since left the company. I also feel sorry for the estate agents who pay a large fee for Churchill Butlers inventory reports thinking they are hiring highly trained inventory professionals.
Anybody still missing payment from this guy, we should all meet up and go visit him...
Work-Relief is part of the scam. It's a bogus recruitment agency that's been set up to recruit a constant supply of unknowing victims to work for Churchill Butler/Addelfields/Oakleighs & Castle White. Ah, the irony of Work Relief's claim on their website that they "reward responsible employers!" If anybody needs proof of their involvement, here's their address listed:
http://www.wecando.biz/profile.php?bid=7359 - 145-157 St John Street, London EC1v 4PW, exactly the same as the new Addlefields address listed on their website recently & detailed a few posts above, tho' it's now been changed to a West End address as true to form, "Andrew" moves from address to address after not paying his bills...
how the hell isnt the government doing anything about this man? its absolutely ridiculous! he should be locked up for a very long time. I would love for a group of us to go get him and make him cough up the cash...
@countesschristo and @churchill_butler_are_conmen. Can I suggest you remove the comments regarding the recruitment company being part of the scam because that is wholly incorrect and defamatory. If you see my previous comments you will know I am not a fan of the man and cannot wait for his downfall but don't pull innocent people into it. The company address appears the same because that is one of the largest Registered Office addresses in the UK. Literally hundreds if not thousands of small businesses are registered there. It is not a trading address. Chances are they are probably owed more than you if his habit of not paying staff also covers him not paying suppliers! Focus on the main man and good luck in getting your money!
I didn't say the recruitment company were knowingly part of the scam, just that Churchill Butler are using them to deceive jobseekers. Out of curiosity, why is this agency still advertising jobs for Andrew's companies on their website?
They are also advertising vacancies on the Job Site website for this company. I agree stay clear away from any of these jobs/vacancies advertised. BTW I have checked on companies house, looks like he has somehow persuaded two of his employees to take directorship of Churchill Butler and Oakleighs - they must me mad !
I don't think the job advertisement above is for Property Concepts/ Addlefields/ Churchill Butler.
DATE POSTED 18/10/2011
Job No:PAP/18485SOC Code:4133WageApproximately £10 per hour, see DescriptionHours16 - 40 per week, Monday - Saturday, hours to suit applicantLocationLondon, E14 E14DurationPermanentDate posted18 October 2011Pension detailsNo details held
Description
No experience necessary as training will be provided. Must be presentable and have excellent communication skills. Must be willing to travel around London, own transport not essential as most properties are within reach of public transport. Duties will include conducting inventory reports within empty residential properties across London. Hours to be arranged to suit applicant, between the hours of 9am - 6pm. Work is paid at £30 per report on average, reports usually take 2-3 hours to create.
How to apply
You can apply for this job by sending a CV/written application to Recruitment at Churchill Butler Ltd, recruitment@churchillbutler.com.
Employer
Churchill Butler Ltd
Worked for him for about 6 months in 2008 and didn't get paid some months whilst others it was the incorrect amount and had to constantly chase and harass him. After I keft I took him to employment tribunal and found about 6 other claimants doing the same thing at that time anyway we all met up and then got our money owed but it took the threat of bailiffs and of a beating to force him!
hello,
worked for the as well, and they own us quite a lot as well...is there anybody interested in meeting and chassing these unscrupulous people?
They're not with AIIC so aren't subject to their code of practice, if they were they'd definitely be breaking this rule:
"The Inventory Clerk will not have any financial connection with a maintenance, cleaning or similar contracting company."
Oakleighs & Castlewhite eat your heart out!
I've heard on the grapevine Andrew has already begun another inventory company which is a chip off the old Churchill block, naturally his name isn't involved in this one.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darren-Russell-aka-Andrew-Carlton-crook-of-unknown-current-name-lol/188087187885793
http://www.tenancytransitions.co.uk/contact-us.php
Their office address coincidentally is also at:
145-157 St. John Street
London
EC1V 4PW
'Andrew' has just took on new staff to keep up with S&D from the estate agents. You guys who are owed money should grow some BALLS. He knows full well you will not seek solicitors help as most of you are wimps. You have to threaten this person with a beating of his life he will never forget and that you will visit him every single day at his new plush offices until you get paid. It is my honest opinion you have only yourselves to blame, you came across soft when he did not pay you first time around, therefore he will keep on doing it you.
Yes I am interested in meeting and throwing this ### a long overdue beating.
'Providence Agent'? how did you find out about the new company. Ironically my friend was going to apply for a position with this company ! I can't believe it !
Is there a new company name ? Whats it called now ?
Does anyone still work for Churchill butler, or used to within the past year, I have some useful information regarding monies owed including tax that was not paid over. BTW is this company still running and are they using the same cleaning company. Please let me know. Bobby G
Very few clerks are there longer than 2-3 months due to the payment issues and chaotic disorganisation. The amazing thing is that so many agents are actually prepared to use them, and i don't say this from any moralistic point of view but because the standard of their reports is extremely poor. They're nothing more than fraudulent jokers and pisstakers, claiming to provide a high quality service when in fact their reports aren't worth the paper they're written on. To the best of my knowledge they're still going and the whole operation - cleaning - maintenance - inventories - are all owned by them under different names, which is illegal under AIIC rules, tho' they're not members of the AIIC or any other professional inventory body so it doesn't affect them.
Is anyone with Work Relief or Sarah Knight? Have you actually met her in person? Sarah Knight doesn't sound like a real name, it sounds like a company name...she doesn't ask for references & nor do Churchill Butler, I doubt the estate agents know that. Did anyone hear about those mobsters & Andrew? What about this Tenancy Transitions now?
FAO: Witch, in relation to your post I am indeed a real person. WR used to recruit for Churchill Butler until we realised how they were treating their staff, as a result they have been blacklisted by us and we have not recruited for them in over 6 months. If you require any further clarification please private message me.
Witch - what is the story about Andrew & mobsters? I'd be interested to know !
Checked out the address : 145-157 St. John Street. Its a virtual office - 1000s of businesses have this address as their registered address if they used Made Simple Group to set up their comapny with Companies House. So not much use.
I still have a payment that I am owed. I am down for giving this man a vist if anybody else would like to join. Would be a damn nice site to get a small group terrorising his offices until he realises what has hit him.
If anybody wants to, send me a PM and we will go from there.
Is anybody here still owed a payment? If you are owed anything get in touch with me via PM. I would love to gather up a small group and go pay him a visit.
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Sorry I spammed the last 3 posts on purpose to start a new page to get my message noticed. This is a new chapter for me and I will be getting my money back. It has been 3 years, I have been on and off this case but now I am back for good. Anybody in the same boat read below!
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Unbelievably I worked for this guy for a year. Initially he tried to get me to leave without paying me at all, but I was so desperately persistent I eventually got my first pay packet. From then on, two weeks out of every month were spent chasing the next pay packet, being told one thing then another, treated with offhand non-concern. He seems to have developed a tactic of maintaining a core of competent people who keep things ticking over (I ended up as one of those people), so he can continue with hiring new people to just not pay them, and get 8 weeks free work out of them before they decide to cut their losses and leave.
I stayed so long because you're effectively trapped by working a month in hand. Often you would only get paid by going on strike. So if you quit, that bargaining chip is gone, so how would you get your last month's money? Eventually I came up with the lie that I was taking a sweet temp job two months, but when it finished could I pretty please have my job back? He bought it, and 5 weeks later when the last of what I was owed landed in my account, I sent him an email telling him to go and f*ck himself.
It seems that he is now looking to fold all the existing companies. He has applied to have Oakleighs and Addlefields shut down which means that if he owes you money then you will be "whistling for it". You can apply to companies house to have this stopped if he owes you money. It seems that he wants to ditch Addlefields, Castle White, Churchill Butler and Oakleighs.
Also, I have been contacted by a BBC TV Watchdog style prodcution company who would be interested in looking into this complete an utter crook in greater detail.
"Hi,
I was just following up on your post from earlier this year and I can't seem to find anything on Addlefields. I'd be very interested in speaking to any of thesse low paid workers that he has ripped off. Do you have any leads at all?
Regards
Des "
If you are willing to tell your side of the story then either let me know or get in touch with the legalizer on this site or at the BBC.
Time to close him down properly so everyone gets paid!
Seriously someone please find me how to get a hold of this guy. I got his phone number and that's about it. Need to pay him a visit in person...