Raintree Vacation Club [RVC]
Reviews and Complaints

HK Holdings or HR Holdings sound familiar to anyone? To make the sale of an "every other year UPGRADE" from our yearly contract, they wanted $8000 USD. We said NO. They came back with the idea that they would get our Melia Real property sold/transfered! When I asked how and why, they said it was part of their marketing and would be able to turn it over. They promised in writing that it would be done in 120 days for $499 USD. As instructed, we contacted HK Holdings (which is now HR Holdings!). We paid $499 USD and waited. At 90 days we got a call stating the final transfer is in the works, but to finalize it, we were to pay $529 USD for Title Search and Attorney filings! We argued, but we paid the $529 USD figuring that if we got rid of it for $1000USD we would still be happy since we haven't used it in 7 years! At 125 days I called Raintree in Cabo. Spoke to a lady that said that contract wasn't going to be completed- it wasn't going to happen. Now my horns were showing! After much emailing and calling, we have reached an agreement- I get all I paid to Raintree refunded. It was credited to my CC yesterday. I will loose some currency exchange fees, but that deal is over. Now I will go after Raintree for the fees paid to "THIER AGENT" as I view it, since we would never have had the occasion to deal with HK or HK!.

I had to admit my mistake for buying this timeshare deal, lick my wounds, and assume my loss (i.e approx $13000 in initial costs and maintenance fees) as a 100% write-off. If the attorney's are successful in just nullifying Raintrees Collection attempts and removing their ability to continue financing their Ponzi scheme (i.e. putting them out of business), I will be happy. I have just received and responded to their collection agencys first letter in September stating that I have no intention of paying either the Maintenance fee or Special Assessment fees (After not paying either since Jan 2009). Odd however, is the fact that they seem to be only attempting to collect on the unpaid Maintenance Fees - the Special Assessment fee seems to have been left out. I responded to the Collection Agency (i.e. Concord Collections) stating that I am not paying past Maintenance Fees since I am not being allowed use of the Property, due to not paying a Special Assessment fee, which is a breach of contract.

It must be remembered that any paid Maintenance Fees & Special Assessment Fees will be used to pay their attorneys to fight those who dont pay, not for actual maintenance costs of the property. The financial impacts of any settlements will also be recuperated by future Assessment / Maintenance fee increases in existing and new members, while they withhold right to use and threat of credit ruin over their heads.

I had to admit my mistake for buying this timeshare deal, lick my wounds, and assume my loss (i.e approx $13000 in initial costs and maintenance fees) as a 100% write-off. If the attorney's are successful in just nullifying Raintrees Collection attempts and removing their ability to continue financing their Ponzi scheme (i.e. putting them out of business), I will be happy. I have just received and responded to their collection agencys first letter in September stating that I have no intention of paying either the Maintenance fee or Special Assessment fees (After not paying either since Jan 2009). Odd however, is the fact that they seem to be only attempting to collect on the unpaid Maintenance Fees - the Special Assessment fee seems to have been left out. I responded to the Collection Agency (i.e. Concord Collections) stating that I am not paying past Maintenance Fees since I am not being allowed use of the Property, due to not paying a Special Assessment fee, which is a breach of contract.

It must be remembered that any paid Maintenance Fees & Special Assessment Fees will be used to pay their attorneys to fight those who dont pay, not for actual maintenance costs of the property. The financial impacts of any settlements will also be recuperated by future Assessment / Maintenance fee increases in existing and new members, while they withhold right to use and threat of credit ruin over their heads.

So the bottom line...do we have to pay this special assessment fee?
I thought they could only add a special assessment in a small percentage of your annual fee. NOT double it.

At the Cancun resort (Club Regina), Raintree always puts the RCI guests in the VERY best beach front rooms, so they can sell them timeshares. As for this 17 year member, they ALWAYS put me in the back of the hotel, near the highway.

I would be interested to join any class action suit against Regina. I bought Regina in 1996, when it was Hilton and since then, things have change a lot, as they've taken every single change in ownership as a way to reduce the value of old members. As a result, what I bought is not even close to what I am getting from them today, the cost has gone up, options reduced, time to use it reduced as well, etc. Almost every single item has been changed so they can sell more property to new owners without benefiting old ones. When I bought in 1996, the exchange value in RCI was supposed to be great. Now I can hardly can get availability where I want to go or get something of a much lower value. I would assume RCI is also part of this. In sum, I have so many issues and horror stories that I would gladly join any class action lawsuit against them.
email enieto777@gmail.com

Member since 2002!, on a Even/Gold plan so billed every even year...current assessment for 50k pts for 44 frigging years! So what can
a person do, if there financial condition is very bleak? What would be the legal recourse of RVC, contract has been paid off, just the maintenance
fees payable until 2046. File personal bankruptcy? Tried to give away, sell, course always have the scammers who claim to get rid of your
maintenance fee for only $5k. What guarantees this will work? Course, if your MF keeps going up, seems to me I would be better off to pay 5k and be rid of future MF assessments? Anyone else in my situation or has told them to no more payments and will deal with any repercussion RVC may impose?

Hello everyone, I am a victim of this time share as well, I highly recommend you to forward your complain to PROFECO, we need to be listened, here is the information http://www.profeco.gob.mx/Folletos/Queja_ing.pdf

I bought in to Raintree Vacation Club in 2004 with my husband. Like everyone else the "eyecandy" was just too much not to buy in to . For the first 4 months of belonging to Raintree, joining up in Park City, Utah we were able to have one of the largest rooms available and use the pool that they had with all of our children come and stay with us. It was absolutely wonderful. I booked another time with friends and had the same experience. Being able to book the larger facility that wasn't in our contract. THEN, BAM! We booked in Washington State and had to pay a entrance fee when we went to one of Raintree's vacation spots...WHAT! We already have payed maintenance fees, NOT to have to pay this. I complained at the front desk and afterwards to Raintree, and of coarse got the same answer...upgrades! We were assessed like everyone else the special maintenance fee and got behind because we were unaware at the time that we were assessed this amount and we had our credit ruined along with hours on the phone...I have detailed written conversations with SEVERAL of their people telling me that they were taking care of it, only to have it NOT done. It was a total nightmare.
Last year they offered for the members to pay an extra 1, 000.00 to sell back their time share to them and you were able to use the rest of your points over the next 15 years. GOD tell me why I didn't do this. My husband after much thought told me to go ahead and do it...2 days after the deadline of being able to do it. I told him several times that we need to pay the money and just get out. TO LATE. I have read all of your comments and have had the same experiences that almost everyone of you have had. Calling and not being able to get in ANYWHERE when we wanted to go.
I talked with a Raintree representative just yesterday and told her about my disgust with everyone of our compaints and of coarse she was very helpful with telling me to get on a waiting list etc. etc. ect.
I also called a company that gets people out of their times shares...he asked me which one I belong to and the minute I said Raintree, he said..."I'm really sorry but we don't deal with that company, they are to nasty and very hard to deal with. We have not been able to help anyone in getting out of their timeshares with that one so we have given up on trying to help people with them, good luck"
WHERE do I go from here!

I too have the same complaint. When I emailed memberservices as suggested above, I was arrogantly told that it is within their right to jack it up as much as 10% per year, what a Fricken jobe this timeshare scam is. So frustrating that there is nothing we can do...

It seems like this is a very common problem in Mexico. My wife & i bought into a Royal Elite Timeshare in Playa del Carmen. We stayed in sandos caracol resort & signed contract for royal elite. we've found out in the last few months that availiablity of resorts that we require are very limited (sales person shown us extensive range of hotels). flight deals are no better than booking myself. we enquired to stay lanzarote sandos dec 2012 the ai rate is in total $1900 for the week. i feel that this is going to be costly in the long run, not the ideal deal that was sold to us. This is a forum with more complaints about this company:

http://www.timesharescam.com/timeshare-complaints-resorts-black-list/6-royal-elite-sandos-timeshare-complaints/

I'm in the process of calling the BBB and PROFECO and seeing what they can do. Possibly the attorney General also!

I have considered this also. The quickest way would be to have picketing outside their office, after alerting media. I would also inform the media of the various lawsuits that have had to be settled. I own stock in Holly Frontier. Need to tell the Board of Directors that one of them, Bech, is involved in other activities that might prove embarrassing for them...

I would like to form a group of Raintree/RCI (or any other name they use) victims to go to the corporate office with news media and demand justice. If we can't all go, let's make a video a sort of play for justice, #1 refund of special assessment fee, there were no upgrades. #2 for those who bought into the Westin facilities should get at least half their money back since now you can't use any part of the Westin. A fence? Please. We can try to sue, it won't work. It's time to take it nation wide and viral. If any of you are interested, please email me at srb934@yahoo.com. Taking this matter to the Internet WILL go viral and maybe just maybe we can have justice by shutting them down.

Same complaints as above. We bought in 1996 and have upgraded several times ...to emerald now I think. We did so so that we could have unrestricted time and better rooms...Bahaahahah...The maintenance fees have tripled and that doesn't include the mysterious "appraisal fees." As everyone else has stated we are not getting out money's worth as a-matter-of-face I'd say we are getting bambuzelled! Now when we refused to pay these ridiculous prices they threaten to report to credit bureau and ruin our credit. I am very interested in joining a class action law suite. Anyone in progress please email me at pwaldrip@cox.net

As a timeshare owner we can all end the misery of the RCI membership by going to http://www.timesharesocial.com . This site is free to join and you can upload videos of the resort and talk to other timeshare owners as well.

Agree. Let's demand that they convert sales office to gym. Parting with the Westin not well thought out. These were also part of the amenities that we were promised when we bought in Cabo in 1998

Hello All,

My husband and I foolishly bought into the Club Regina Puerto Vallarta in 2006. Cost us $10, 000 for a "gold" level in the every other year rights. Maintenance fees are $900 every other year and then there is some sort of annual fee of about $150. We have only been there a total of 2 weeks since then, costing us about $12, 000. We have not been able to afford to return.

This special assessment fee is unacceptable and I would agree it may be fraudulent. I will only be happy if they will by back "this wonderful vacation package for a lifetime" for the original purchase price.

I cannot believe that they had the nerve to send another request for special assessement. I really hope that people do not respond. I contacted a lawyer and they said there is no where in the contract that says they can require us to pay a special assessement. We have been lied to so much. From the minute we sat down to the table to listen to their spill. We have been a member since 2006, we have only been able to use 3 days, and that is because we ended up going to Park City in Sept, no one goes to Park City in Sept there is nothing to do then. We have tried so many times to book vacations, but to no avail. And now they want more money, its is such a scam.

Raintree has been using maintenance fees for over 10 years to buy other properties, evidently, and have done nothing as far as upkeep on their current timeshare properties. They (along with Starwood) are about to lose a lawsuit for defrauding buyers of Raintree's Grand Regina properties In Cabo San Lucas, MX., and are facing another major one concerning lack of institutional control and fraud of several hundred other members.
I would advise anyone to stay away from this Houston based company. Google Raintree and you'll find hundreds of complaints concerning them and their management team.

As a member of Raintree Vacation Club since 2001 I am also surprised and appalled by this "special assessment" and also the new "Blue" membership. These are both ploys to separate us from our money. How foolish does the sales & marketing department think we members really are? We are love to come to Cancun's Club Regina and other resorts. But at Regina the dishwashers are actually falling out of their mountings and the stoves don't work, but we do have a nice new $18 coffee maker and all this for over $900 in annual maintenance fees.

I will say that the hotel staff are wonderful and the sand/beach is great but that is why I joined in the first place. Why a ruin such a wonderful place and vacation concept with these ploys to get more of our hard earned money?

I am helping Raintree connect with members. The members of the committee have chosen not to release their names or contact information because some members have made threats. They volunteered to make sure the voice of the Members was heard as the organization considered its options related to a special assessment. They are not a representative body and are advisory only.

This is from the Raintree Listens website (as a B-share member, you should have access to the Raintree Listens website if you've provided your e-mail information):

Raintree Announces Member Advisory Committee

As promised this summer, Raintree Vacation Club has established a Member Advisory Committee. The committee is composed of nine Members from various backgrounds and locations, with a range of membership history and use of various resorts.

The purpose of the Member Advisory Committee is to give voice to the varied opinions of the Members and to advise Raintree leadership on matters related to the special assessment and thereafter on matters affecting Raintree Vacation Club. From the many Members who contacted the organization with concerns about the Special Assessment issued last summer, Raintree invited Members with financial, real estate management, communications and related backgrounds to join the committee. None of the management of Raintree knew any of these Members prior to hearing from these individuals in connection with the previously withdrawn special assessment.

The committee has held two conference calls and plans three more before Raintree issues a Special Assessment, expected to be by the end of October, as previously announced, for payment during 2010.

Following are the members of the Member Advisory Committee with brief information about their backgrounds. The committee members are identified by first name and state only at their request.

John - New York
John and his wife have been Raintree Vacation Club members since 2003 and have visited nine of the Raintree Vacation Club resorts. John retired in 2007 after 25 years as a managing director of large international law firm. John is also owner of a retail business.

Richard - Utah
Richard and his wife have been members of Raintree Vacation Club since 1995 and have visited four Raintree Vacation club resorts and have exchanged through RCI to travel to other resort destinations. Richard is a CPA and has his own accounting firm, advising clients in real estate and timeshare transactions. Richard also owns and manages multiple real estate ventures including multi-unit locations.

John - Minnesota
John and his wife have been Raintree Vacation Club Members since 1996 and have visited four of the Raintree Vacation Club resorts. John has a management consulting practice that provides counsel in areas of marketing, sales, operations and technology.

Javier - Mexico
Javier and his wife have been Raintree Vacation Club Members since 2002 and have visited six of the Raintree Vacation Club resorts. Javier works as a Quality Manager in the automobile industry. He has a degree in Mechanical Engineering and a masters degree in Manufacturing Administration. His wife is an Odontologist, but Orthodoncy is her specialty.

Tommy - Texas
Tommy and his wife have been members since 2004 and have generally used their membership in Los Cabos. Tommy is an architect and leads the project management group for the South Region of a major commercial real estate services firm. His wife is a commercial interior designer.

Kathleen - Michigan
Kathleen and her husband first acquired their Membership at one of the Club Reginas in the early 1990s. They have visited six of the Raintree Vacation Club resorts and exchanged with RCI to five other destinations. They are both veterinarians.

Kevin - Texas
Kevin and his wife have been Raintree members since 2003. Kevin has had a long career in the radio/TV business and is now a partner in a multimedia automotive marketing business with operations in two states.

Brian - Texas
Brian and his wife have been members since 2005. Brian is engaged in the energy consulting business, with a financial background.

Kathleen - Ohio
Kathleen has been a Raintree Vacation Club member since 1996 and has visited six Raintree resorts with family and friends. She is an Associate Provost at a major university in Ohio and has served in various roles on Townhouse Associations.

Raintree Vacation Clubs should be ashamed of themselves. They are now assessing a second "Special Assessment" fee. They first tried this last summer, and the member rose up and revolted. And now they are trying it again. If there is anyone out there that can help me get out of this nightmare of a timeshare, please let me know. If you are looking to get into a timeshare this is not the one. If you stupidly bought this timeshare, do all that you can to get out!
Thanks.
Jenny

Hi, Jenny: I help the team at Raintree with communications with the Members. You may want to consider visiting www.raintreelistens.com where literally hundreds of Members have had their questions addressed by the organization. If you no longer want your Membership, you might consider selling it, transferring it to a friend or family Member or donating it to charity. You can reach me directly at dan@dpkpr.com.

youmustbekidding: In a club such as Raintree Vacation Club, the timeshare interests are pooled. There is no "home resort" per se. What you own is a Membership in a Club with usage rights to the resort properties that fly the Raintree banner. There are no "Birch Bay owners" as you say. There are Raintree Vacation Club Members whose timeshare interests are backed up by real estate at Birch Bay. They purchased a Club Membership because it gives them ultimate flexibility in terms of what resort property they can visit. No Member has preference over any other, regardless of where their timeshare interests are backed up. Reservations are made on a first come first reserved basis. We recommend planning 10-12 months in advance.

Dan,

There is a downside to what you propose. If my home resort is Club Regina Cabo and I have purchased at Club Regina Cabo rates why would I want or even allow Birch Bay owners (who have purchased at far less cost than me) to have priority or preference at my home resort.

Your thoughts?

Dennis: I am helping Raintree Vacation Club Members resolve their problems. Please contact me at dan@dpkpr.com and I can connect you with someone with Member Services. Based on your note, it appears you may not have a clear understanding of what you bought. There are significant differences between a traditional fee simple timeshare interest in a specific property and a Raintree Vacation Club Membership.

The Raintree Vacation Club purchaser acquires a beneficial trust interest/membership in a particular resort property (in your case, Birch Bay in Washington State). But WHERE your timeshare interest is purchased isn't really important because at the time of purchase, the buyer simultaneously deposits or assigns that beneficial trust interest/membership with Raintree Vacation Club in exchange for a Raintree Vacation Club Membership and the associated usage rights and responsibilities. These include usage rights to all Raintree Vacation Club resort properties in 16 destinations in Mexico, the United States and Canada as well as access to RCI, the world’s largest timeshare exchange company.

So just because your timeshare interests are backed up by real estate at Birch Bay doesn't in any way influence what resort properties you can reserve within the Raintree Vacation Club system. You have equal access to Cabo as the Members whose timeshare interests are backed up by the Cabo properties. All Club Members have pooled all their timeshare interests. It is a lot different than purchasing a timeshare at a particular property -- much more flexibility to go where you want.

You may want to visit www.raintreelistens.com for more information on these and other issues.

The process of first purchasing timeshare interests in a particular property and then assigning those interests to Raintree Vacation Club in exchange for a Club Membership is a common practice that has been reviewed and approved by the agencies that have jurisdiction over timeshare sales. By doing this, the Club is able to pool all the interests of all the Members to provide usage to all the resort properties to all Raintree Vacation Club Members and offer a wide variety of exciting vacation options all Raintree Vacation Club Members can enjoy.

John: I help Raintree Vacation Club with Member communications. I would like to better understand the situation. Were you intending to trade-in/exchange Raintree Vacation Club timeshare interests? Did you have an agreement in place for the exchanges? Was it reflected in your contracts? Send me your Member number via e-mail to dan@dpkpr.com and I'll see if I can clear up your issue.

Thank you Amy T for good direction.

There are 15 pages of "Special Assessment" complaints over on Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&. Also included are instructions on how to file complaints with the Houston BBB, FTC, Texas Attorney General and your state AG. Examples and details are available at http://groups.google.com/group/raintree-vacation-club-members. You have to file the paperwork if you want to get rid of the corrupt practices and corrupt RVC board members.

In addition to mismanaging the annual maintenance fees, the attempt to levy the SA (now momentarily withdrawn) was really blackmail in the beginning revealing not only their desperation, but a spirit of complete disregard for contracts and obligations. If the AG can find that RVC was diverting named funds to other uses, they will require them to be repaid by Raintree Resorts International. Daniel Keeney was hired by RVC as damage control when many members expressed interest in a class-action lawsuit. Unfortunately PR cannot cover up fraud.

There is more on this at Google, it sounds to me they are trying to scam all the members for more money! Without letting all members vote on these so called improvements! We have been members since the middle 90's at no time wre we told that they can just send out request for more money above the annual maintenance fee! Which has been adjusted up over the years for the same reason they are using now!

Lloyd

There are 15 pages of complaints over on Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&. Also included are instructions on how to file complaints with the Houston BBB, FTC, Texas Attorney General and your state AG. Examples and details are available at http://groups.google.com/group/raintree-vacation-club-members. You have to file the paperwork if you want to get rid of the corrupt practices and corrupt RVC board members.

In addition to mismanaging the annual maintenance fees, the attempt to levy the SA (now momentarily withdrawn) was really blackmail in the beginning revealing not only their desperation, but a spirit of complete disregard for contracts and obligations. If the AG can find that RVC was diverting named funds to other uses, they will require them to be repaid by Raintree Resorts International.

WE got ripped off, not only did the raintree sales person (Cabo San Lucas & $30, 000. later.) say we could rent our 2 weeks when we didn't use it. He said Raintree would rent it for us! Unfortunately it's not in the contract like he said. Full of lies. It's sad to think there isn't a way to get out of it! I don't know how people in ther 70's & 80's are managing the maintence fees. This should be against the LAW! My husband & I would be on board with a class action suit,
Linda & David

I agree!Help lets get out of this, there has to be a lope hole! lhrealm@optonline.net
Linda

I agree
I Purchase RVC since 2007. The maintenance fee had increase since I purchased . I never use yet but already paid $1000 . Now I received $380 Special Assessment Fee.

RAINTREE IS REALLY OUT OF LINE HERE. WE DO NOT OWN THE PROPERTY FOR US TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS . WE ARE JUST RENTERS THAT PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR IT ALREADY AND STILL PAYING FOR THE RIDICULOUS YEARLY ASSESSMENT FEES AND NOW, SPECIAL FEE? FOR WHAT? IF THEY SELL THE PROPERTY, THE MONEY THEY MAKE FOR IT DON'T COME TO US! WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO JUST BILL US FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN THINK OF. IMPROVEMENTS OF THE PROPERTY IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT OURS. WE ALREADY HAVE PAID OUR DUES. LETS FILE A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST THEM. ANY LAWYER IN THE GROUP?

same problem they ruin your credit they are scammer we must open class action suite they will tell you that you must pay until 2042

my eamil drall1964@yahoo.com

We have compiled a list in excess of 100 members that are communicating and strategizing with a goal of contacting the attorney general in multiple states, especially Texas and AG Andrew Cuomo in New York. If you want to be a part of the combined effort, please send your email address to Ogden1995@aol.com.

The longest and most thorough thread of complaints and comments is at Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&

For the convenience of the authorities who might want to read members postings and for future reference, it seems it would be best to accumulate all comments under the above thread. There are already 13 pages on the thread. Thank you.

On June 4, 2005, my wife and I were in Cancun, Mexico vacationing when we decided to look into buying a timeshare with Club Regina . After much thought and consideration we decided to buy two units since we could travel with our children. This units weren't cheap we ended up paying 40K for both units . After getting back home we decided to pay off the contract. When signing the contract there was nothing said of having a special assessement fee all the contract said that we needed to pay the yearly fee which started at 810.00 yearly and since then has gone up to 1, 106.00 . Now we get a special fee to be paid before we can use our timeshares of the same amount of the yearly fee. which we can't afford to be paying . I have tryed talking to this people at Club Regina and they pass the buck to someone else and they never give you the answer you need to hear from them. I am really piss off with this people and I am ready to join a CLASS ACTION SUIT against them for being such crooks, first of we should never have bought this timeshares, second we should have never paid it off. and third we won't be going back to Mexico which we used to go at least twice a year.

TonyF.Martinez, Retired Magistrat Judge

Raintree has done nothing but charge fees since I joined them. The value is poor for the cost. I have been unable to use the points. My wife and I consider this the worst financial decision we've made, and we think we were scammed by pros. These guys employ predatory salesmen and we were taken in. I would gladly join a class-action suit.

Have you tried going to PROFECO? Otherwise I doubt Raintree would stop trying to charge SA

Please go to Raintree trying to charge a special assessment.

Hello. I am another owner who does not agree to pay the special fee or ‘Special Assessment". Please let me know how can I join the other owners in this fight against Raintree Vacation. My emails are:
jfigueroa@sisevende.com
jgfigueroa@hotmail.com

Below is an email that a member sent around to other members. It pretty much sums up why RVC is charging this SA: They are in dire straights, with no money and are on the hook for $25M for another failed fiasco:

"Haven't talked to you in a while...2006 to be exact. That was the year we made the fatal decision to trade our Club Regina for Grand Regina Villas, another RVC ripoff. Turns out, Raintree never built the Villas, sold the project to Starwood, who never did anything either. There is now a group of 154 Villas owners that have put up money and retained an attorney to fight/sue Raintree & Starwood in an attempt to get our money back.

I noticed your name floating around some of the emails from disgruntled Club Regina owners over the "special assessment". I'm sure I'd be furious over something like that, too. To put it mildly, Doug Bech is pretty much of a slime-ball. I'm one of a 6-member owners committee that met with our attorney, Doug Bech and his attorney and Starwood attorneys in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. We spent most of the time listening to "we just don't have the money to return everything". By his own admission, RVC had sold around $25M worth of weeks, yet didn't put the money into an escrow fund pending construction. Supposedly, he only has around $5M to return. They made one offer after the meeting, but it was piss-poor. Supposedly, another offer will be sent on Monday. If it's not, or if it's not any better, a lawsuit will be filed in federal court on Wed.

I had a thought that maybe this special assessment was an attempt to raise money to pay us back, then figure out how to deal with all of the irate Club Regina owners. Do you have a copy of the special assessment letter you could email or fax me? I think we might be able to use it as ammunition in the lawsuit. Oh, did you know that Doug spent $4.5M buying another resort in Puerta Vallarta right across the street from Club Regina, I believe it was last Sept. We figure he used some of our money to buy that. All I know is that we have a bunch of owners in our legal group that want to see him in jail, and he knows it.

I've been getting copied on emails from your group. All I can say is, good luck! You'll need it. Might as well get ready for a fight. We've pretty much figured out that he uses maintenance fee income to buy more properties, instead of using it for maintenance of the existing ones. They probably all do to some extent."

We have compiled a list in excess of 100 members that are communicating and strategizing with a goal of contacting the attorney general in multiple states, especially Texas and AG Andrew Cuomo in New York. If you want to be a part of the combined effort, please send your email address to Ogden1995@aol.com.

The longest and most thorough thread of complaints and comments is at Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&. The title of this complaint is “Trying to charge a ‘Special Assessment.’"

For the convenience of the authorities who might want to read members postings and for future reference, it seems it would be best to accumulate all comments under the above thread. There are already 13 pages on the thread.

Thank you.

Please go to Raintree Vacation Club blog. We are trying to coordinate everyone there on 1 blog.

Thank you.

oregano7@yahoo.com

I need to join your group. I have been a member of Raintree since 2001 and have been able to trade my weeks, but always upset when I get there as to the the conditions of the units. I want to help in anyway I can to get Raintree to tell me or where these fees go. What I am afraid of is they have "Madoff" with our money
Lee

We have compiled a list in excess of 100 members that are communicating and strategizing with a goal of contacting the attorney general in multiple states, especially Texas and AG Andrew Cuomo in New York. If you want to be a part of the combined effort, please send your email address to Ogden1995@aol.com.

The longest and most thorough thread of complaints and comments is at Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&. The title of this complaint is “Trying to charge a ‘Special Assessment.’"

For the convenience of the authorities who might want to read members postings and for future reference, it seems it would be best to accumulate all comments under the above thread. There are already 13 pages on the thread.

Thank you.

I was told I could make monthly payment on my Special Assessment fee so long as I pay the fee by feb 2011 now I see that I have late fee's and collection fees that ad to an additional $150.00 when does this maddness stop

I sent in my regular maintenance fee and Raintree applied it to the Special Assessment fee. Now they are saying I owe the regular fee and want to charge me penalties.

We have compiled a list in excess of 100 members that are communicating and strategizing with a goal of contacting the attorney general in multiple states, especially Texas and AG Andrew Cuomo in New York. If you want to be a part of the combined effort, please send your email address to Ogden1995@aol.com.

The longest and most thorough thread of complaints and comments is at Raintree — Trying to charge a &Special Assessment&. The title of this complaint is “Trying to charge a ‘Special Assessment.’"

For the convenience of the authorities who might want to read members postings and for future reference, it seems it would be best to accumulate all comments under the above thread. There are already 13 pages on the thread. Thank you.